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"slavery ... is a direct result of evolution teachings"

Theodore C Kamfer, Facebook  58 Comments [1/4/2012 4:39:49 AM]
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Prager

So the teaching of evolution in bible is the reason god says that slavery is ok?

1/4/2012 4:49:47 AM

Tempus

Slavery is a direct result of being a lazy-ass bastard who wants to force other people to work at long hours for no pay on his or her behalf.

1/4/2012 5:00:31 AM

agrf

Wait a book written long after 99% of slavery occured...caused slavery...learn somthin new everyday

1/4/2012 5:02:48 AM

Gawd


One of these was "discovered" millenia before the other, so . . .

1/4/2012 5:13:51 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

Clearly a POE. No one could possibly believe this horseshit to be true.

1/4/2012 5:28:36 AM

Serph-no-Okami

Kind of like how nuclear fusion caused the downfall of the Roman Empire and how the space program made Ghandi starve himself to prove a point.

1/4/2012 5:40:13 AM

Raised by Horses

What's with the ellipses? You quote-mining yourself or something?

1/4/2012 5:40:21 AM

D Laurier

No Theodore... It isnt.

1/4/2012 5:45:59 AM



@Raised by Horses:
"Theodore C Kamfer Funny you should make that example Amanda because slavery and the holocaust is a direct result of evolution teachings."

1/4/2012 5:56:47 AM

agrf

Wait a book written long after 99% of slavery occured...caused slavery...learn somthin new everyday

1/4/2012 6:09:40 AM

Doubting Thomas

But your god is OK with slavery, if the bible is any guide. And funny how evolution wasn't even discovered until after slavery was eradicated from most of the world. Except, of course, in the southern United States where the bible was used to justify it.

1/4/2012 7:11:49 AM



"Then Abimelek brought sheep and cattle and male and female slaves and gave them to Abraham, and he returned Sarah his wife to him."

Genesis 20:14

Since Genesis is attributed either to Moses or anonymous writers in 500-600 B.C, while the theory of evolution was only thought of in the 1800s, you're completely incorrect.

1/4/2012 7:14:33 AM

dionysus

I had no idea that Darwin was born in 5000 BCE.

1/4/2012 8:02:55 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

@Percy Q. Shunn

Yes they could, I'm afraid.

1/4/2012 8:57:49 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Darwin's theory was published in 1859. The Fugitive Slave Act (to give just one example) was passed in 1851, and by Southerners at that. You fail, pathetically.

1/4/2012 8:58:48 AM



so Darwin wrote his book in the 1850s and it was so good that it affected Egypt in 2000 bc ?



1/4/2012 9:03:27 AM

Osiris

Then it's pretty impressive that slavery existed for thousands of years before evolution, and was abolished by the time Darwin published his theories.

1/4/2012 9:18:53 AM



Darwin published On the Origin of Species in 1859, after most of the western world had already abandoned slavery. (The concept of biological evolution actually dates back to the 18th century, but it wasn't until On the Origin of Species was published that a scientifically plausible model of evolution was presented.) This argument is made even sillier by the fact that Darwin himself was strongly abolitionist, as noted in his autobiography, having many aggressive arguments with the captain of the Beagle over his support of slavery.

The Captain of the Beagle, ironically, was a Fundamentalist-type Christian who later attacked Darwin over his theory and became a champion of anti-Darwinian Christians. I don't know if he had by then given up his pro-slavery views or not though.

Theodore here is probably thinking of the Polygenesis theory. (Which Darwin also opposed)

Similarly, people have attempted to blame "Darwinism" for Communism, despite the fact that The Communist Manifesto was published in 1848, eleven years before Darwin went public. Darwin has also been blamed for eugenics (including the Nazis') despite notions of "pure/tainted/inferior" or "royal/aristocratic/common" bloodlines and the associated "selective breeding" for humans being nearly as old as animal husbandry, which is thousands of years old, not to mention that Darwin himself declared the whole idea of eugenics to be "evil" and damaging to "the noblest part of our nature" in his book The Descent of Man.

That being said, Darwin had a number of Poisonous Friends who helped to associate his name with the practice, resulting in the name of Social Darwinism, a concept the man himself abhorred.

1/4/2012 10:03:55 AM

Berny

Critical thinking isn't your strong suit, is it Theo?
Care to explain to me how slavery, which has been around since the dawn of human civilization, can be blamed on the theory of evolution, which has existed for a little more than 150 years?
Something tells me his explanation would give me a migraine.

EDIT: I went and looked at the Facebook comments. That was enough to give me a headache. The stupid is strong in there.

1/4/2012 10:09:49 AM

FinalArbiterOfMyMorality

Bullshit. Next.

1/4/2012 10:10:43 AM

Thinking Allowed

What does the bible say again?

1/4/2012 10:32:58 AM

J. James

Whoa. I knew Darwin was a great scientist, but he invented the time machine too?! Cool!!

1/4/2012 10:36:42 AM

The Duelist

I love how Christians always try to shift everything--goalposts and the Burden of Proof in debates, and blame when it comes to atrocities and crimes against humanity. First they lie through their teeth and say that Hitler was an atheist and that the Third Reich was an "atheist regime", and then go on to label communist regimes as "atheist regimes", and then say that "atheist regimes" has killed over a hundred million people. Fuck you morons. The fact that they can't make an honest argument either for their cult or against skepticism proves that they're deluded and full of crap.

1/4/2012 11:08:46 AM



Slavery was abolished long before Darwin wrote his famous book. Next.

1/4/2012 11:13:57 AM

= POPE =

@ J. James:

He borrowed one from H.G. Wells, who was trying to shoot his father at the time.

He went back to the dawn of civilization and tried to teach what passed for aristocracy back then a thing or two about the world around them. Since they were exactly the kind of mouth-breathers that conservatives revere, they heard what they wanted to hear. They used his teachings as an excuse for racism, and kept on worshiping stone idols with long hollow tubes where their mouths should be. Kind of the same thing that happened in the 20th Century. Just goes to show, you can't change history, just bullshit about it.

1/4/2012 11:31:43 AM
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