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It can also be noted that evolutionists only discuss this subject [evolution] in the broadest terms. If evolution is true, why don’t they give us answers to our many questions?

-Where did all the 90-plus elements (iron, barium, calcium, silver, nickel, neon, chlorine, etc.) come from? How was it determined how many bonds each element would have for combining with other elements?

-How do you explain the precision in the design of the elements, with increasing numbers of electrons in orbit around the nucleus?

-Where did the thousands of compounds we find in the world come from? ... They could not have developed from the elements, because elements rarely react with each other. For example, did all the salt in the ocean form by sodium reacting with chlorine (a gas)? Therefore almost all compounds had to have been created as compounds. When did all the compounds we find in the world develop—before the big bang, during the big bang, after the big bang? When evolutionists use the term “matter,” which of the thousands of compounds is included? When evolutionists use the term “primordial soup,” which of the elements and compounds is included?

Robert Congelliere, Creation Today 113 Comments [1/8/2012 5:12:02 AM]
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Dr. Razark

@Zimmer
"Argument from ignorance."

No, not really. Ignorance can be corrected.

What we have here is "Argument from stupidity."

1/9/2012 10:47:41 AM

Alleyprowler

They could not have developed from the elements, because elements rarely react with each other.

Cool. You won't mind if I take away your oxygen, do you? It's not like it's doing you any good.

1/9/2012 12:46:46 PM

Osiris

Evolution doesn't have anything to do with those questions because evolution is a BIOLOGICAL theory and you're asking questions about CHEMISTRY. Or do you also go up to physicists and ask them how the theory of gravity can explain where babies come from?

1/9/2012 4:58:07 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

And these questions relate to evolution how?

1/9/2012 5:34:52 PM

Moondog

And chemistry has what to do with evolution by natural selection?

1/9/2012 5:38:55 PM

breakerslion

(Deep, Hollow-sounding, slightly metallic voice): PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MOUNTAIN OF SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE! ANSWERS! WE WANT ANSWERS! THE GREAT ... IGNORAMOZ ... HAS... SPOKEN!

1/9/2012 7:35:24 PM

Feral Dog

Aren't these all Chemistry and Physics questions? I'm not too sure; too much time around fundies, ya know.

1/9/2012 8:24:07 PM

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1/9/2012 9:25:07 PM

Baal

OK, you got me . I thought adding one to each element to get the next element was pretty cool idea. I thought water falling through the air was also cool , and it took a lot of the chlorine gas out too.

Why do theese not bright people keep dissing my ideas ?

I favor soup with chicken bits, bacon and a few potatoes.

Bow down and worship BAAL ! pretty please ?


1/9/2012 9:25:16 PM

Alfador

HIGH SCHOOL CHEMISTRY

RETAKE IT

1/9/2012 9:42:44 PM



This is just willing ignorance. Mr Robert Congelliere could have learned all this if he'd just picked up a chemistry textbook. Or stayed awake in science class in high school. Or even learned how to fucking GOOGLE IT. This stuff is so basic that the only reason why he hasn't learned the answers is he doesn't really WANT to know.

1/10/2012 12:41:29 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

Theory of evolution =/= Big Bang Theory. You must be confused because the Bible talks about the origins of the universe and the origins of Earthly life in the same book. Science doesn't work that way.

1/10/2012 7:25:29 AM

ThinkingManNeil

These are actually excellent questions, Robert (well, most of then are; evolution has nothing to do with origin of the elements or the synthesis of chemical compounds) but I would advise you trying to find the answers to them in the bible or religion would be a COMPLETE WASTE OF YOUR TIME as the bible is a complete cock-up when it comes to science and reality in general. So I suggest you pick up some good introductory books on astronomy and chemistry as the real story of stellar nucleosynthesis is far more interesting, compelling, and fascinating than any silly jibberish that any religion can come up with.

"We're all star-stuff" -- Dr. Carl Sagan

N.

1/10/2012 12:57:59 PM

FinalArbiterOfMyMorality

Lrn2Science.

1/10/2012 2:00:46 PM

Lezemotu

Uh, the elements regularly react with each other. They're rarely found on their own in nature.

1/10/2012 7:49:06 PM

Godless heathen

Question 1. Nothing to do with evolution but here goes. Hydrogen gas forms stars which fuse hydrogen and turn it into helium. When the hydrogen runs out helium fuses to form oxygen. This process of fusing elements to make heavier ones continues until iron, when the process stops working in normal sized stars. Heavier elements are formed by supernovae.

Question 2. Don't know I'm afraid, my knowledge of physics is fairly limited. I think it's something to do with the electrical charge of protons and electrons but I'm not sure. Google it and I'm sure you'll find out.

Question 3. With the exception of a few noble gases, elements react quite easily. That's why apples go brown and why things burn. Your assumption that elements rarely react is just wrong. Oh, and that's chemistry not evolution.

Granted some of these answers are a bit vague, but I'm not a scientist and my knowledge comes from remembering what I learned in school and a few popular science books and tv programmes. Also, if you want to know about evolution, ask questions about evolution, not physics or chemistry.

1/11/2012 1:11:59 AM

Agahnim

What does this have to do with biology? Elements are chemistry, numbskull.

1/11/2012 5:41:13 PM

John_in_Oz

I retract my claim that there is no such thing as a stupid question.

1/12/2012 8:14:18 AM

tmarcl

I'm fairly certain that the elements have nothing to do with biology. Evolution is a biological process, and the elements are...I honestly don't know what they are (geology, chemistry?), but they're not biology.

1/12/2012 9:05:07 AM

Shadoboy

Answer: NOTHING IN THAT PILE OF WORDS HAS TO DO WITH EVOLUTION, YOU NITWIT!

1/12/2012 11:03:34 PM



Now here is your problem, the word, "evolution" does not mean, "every single field of science."

1/12/2012 11:53:58 PM



What do the elements have to do with evolution. I always assumed the creationists actually knew what evolution was.

1/13/2012 5:15:58 PM



They would............if they had something to do with the theory of evolution.

1/14/2012 8:14:50 AM

Eniliad

If you can accept creationism at its core without questioning it, you should tolerate that not everyone who believes in evolution understands, and can repeat on demand, every aspect of the ToE as well as every scientific concept you spontaneously demand explained since middle school science onward.

Of course, even if such a person existed and had the patience/desire to indulge you, it wouldn't be enough to let their facts and evidence shake your TRUTH and FAITH, would it? No? Then kindly shut up.

1/17/2012 6:07:25 AM

Asuka

GOD DESIGNED THE PERIODIC TABLE YOU GUYS

IT'S SO OBVIOUS NOW

1/21/2012 3:03:10 PM
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