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Civilization struggles to protect life, civilization struggles to feed life and generate life. Barbarism has no respect for life at all, actually, barbarism venerates death. Homosexuality, which side is that on? Civilization or barbarism? It’s got to be—see, please understand I’m speaking about the cultures and the ideas, I’m not saying that any particular Muslim is a barbarian, I’m not saying any particular homosexual is a barbarian, I’m saying the culture—and the answer is very simple, civilization has sex in the life-giving birth canal, and barbarism has sex in the canal through which dead, useless, waste material is excreted. It’s a fundamental difference, you can tell.

Rabbi Daniel Lapin, Right Wing Watch 44 Comments [1/27/2012 4:14:58 AM]
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Narvi

"Homosexuality, which side is that on? Civilization or barbarism?"

Glad you asked. Civilization. Will you kindly shut up now?

1/27/2012 4:48:20 AM

gravematter

"Civiliisation has sex in the life-giving canal".
So lesbians are doubly civilised? What about homosexual men who don't have anal sex? And heterosexuals who do? And what have Muslims got to do with anything? Answers on a postcard please, to;
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1/27/2012 5:11:38 AM

Pule Thamex

And yet, whether or not you consider a culture to be civilized or barbarous seems to make no difference, the same amount of shitting occurs. The same amount of activity of the birthing canal occurs whether or not the activity is actual birthing or just shagging. You have very strange ideas, you must be one of them religious nutters.

1/27/2012 5:19:53 AM

Titania

". . . and barbarism has sex in the canal through which dead, useless, waste material is excreted." so every time a woman menstruates, she's practicing barbarism?

BTW, those barbarians who are verating death are only venerating the deaths of others (yours?) while seeking to secure life for themselves. So you're only half right.

1/27/2012 5:22:38 AM

Mister Spak

"Barbarism has no respect for life at all, actually, barbarism venerates death."

We saw this in the conservatives celebration of shooting doctors, Sarah Palins crosshairs on her campaign posters, her admonition to "don't retreat, reload", the joy over shocking and aweing Iraq etc.

1/27/2012 5:59:59 AM

Metallic Space Dragon

What is it with these fundies and their obsession with "canals?"

1/27/2012 6:41:04 AM

Bollox

So, oral sex? Which canal is that, Rabbit?

(If you have it with vampires, that would be the Erie Canal).

1/27/2012 6:52:00 AM

D Laurier

Huh?
Barbarism; The act of not being a citizen of Rome.
SPQR bub

1/27/2012 7:07:09 AM

Exatron

Sounds like the rabbi wants to give people oral sex.

1/27/2012 7:25:43 AM

Doubting Thomas

civilization struggles to feed life and generate life

With nearly 7 billion people, we struggle to feed life, but apparently haven't had any struggle to generate life. A few gay people aren't going to make us extinct.

barbarism has sex in the canal through which dead, useless, waste material is excreted.

In other words, homosexuality is icky because you keep thinking of sex up the poop chute. What about lesbians? They have oral sex in the life-giving birth canal.

1/27/2012 7:29:46 AM

dionysus

barbarism has sex in the canal through which dead, useless, waste material is excreted

The vagina does that once a month too.

1/27/2012 7:35:40 AM

Dr.Shrinker

"Barbarism has no respect for life..."

Read the book of Joshua and say that with a straight face rabbi. Or is that "different?"

Read Exodus and learn how much respect your god had for the children whose only crime was to be the first born son of an Egyptian family and say that with a straight face rabbi. Or is that "different?"

Count up all the crimes punishable by death in the torah and say that with a straight face rabbi. Or is that "different?"

Yes rabbi, I know the difference between life venerating and life destroying viewpoints. It is you who clearly can't tell.

1/27/2012 7:36:14 AM

John_in_Oz

Reasoning. You're not doing it right.

1/27/2012 8:11:16 AM

JSS

{civilization has sex in the life-giving birth canal, and barbarism has sex in the canal through which dead, useless, waste material is excreted}

You're assuming all gays do is have sex through the "death canal", and all straights ever do is have sex in the "life canal". There are plenty of straights who have anal sex, and there are plenty of gays who are disgusted by the idea. Of course, this rant of yours doesn't even scratch upon lesbians.

1/27/2012 8:38:08 AM

Vermicious Knid

Civilization struggles to protect life, civilization struggles to feed life and generate life.

There's seven billion people on the planet. I'd say civilization isn't having too much trouble with the "generate life" part.

ETA: D'oh! Doubting Thomas beat me to it. :)

1/27/2012 9:05:57 AM



So anything not affirming life and its enjoyment (in your particular way) = barbaric death cult?


This has to be the most grossly overblown false dichotomy I've ever seen.

1/27/2012 9:35:09 AM

Apatheist

False dichotomy is false.

1/27/2012 9:39:39 AM

Frank

"barbarism has sex in the canal through which dead, useless, waste material is excreted."

That would be your mouth then?

1/27/2012 10:00:51 AM

Zimmer

Glad to see you fundies are still more obsessed with the anus than actual homosexuals.

1/27/2012 10:02:26 AM

Sasha

Among my friends, a barbarian is someone who likes his steak rare while a Roman likes it well-done.

The Romans were into whatever kinky sex they could invent, Rabbi. Barbarians were into looting and arson.

Muslims were highly civilized while my European ancestors were living knee-deep in pigshit, so shove your arrogance up your waste canal, bigot.

1/27/2012 10:17:43 AM

lisamariefan

I WTF'd when he brought Islam out of left field. That just kind of ruined any cohesion I thought he might have; I WTF'd again when he made a bizarre sex analogy.

1/27/2012 10:26:27 AM

Swede

What about the dead, useless waste material that is excreted through the male urethra? Having sex with the member that holds that canal must be barbarism too, right?

No civilization can harbor the death penalty, if we're using your "logic", Danny boy.

Islam, as a religion, is just as violent as Christianity, stupid. If one is barbaric, the other one is as well.

Addendum: "In the midst of life, we are in death". Death and life are very closely connected; you can't have one without the other. The fact that we do die makes life so much more precious.

1/27/2012 10:37:43 AM

zipperback

But the struggle to protect, feed and generate life is also found in in every climate on the planet.

The taiga struggles to protect life, the tiaga struggles to feed life and generate life.

Jungles struggle to protect life, jungles struggle to feed life and generate life.

Sulfurous oceanic vents struggle to protect life, sulfurous oceanic vents struggle to feed life and generate life.

1/27/2012 10:53:18 AM

Skatepunk

This downright reeks of Ad Hominem...

1/27/2012 12:05:53 PM

Doctor Whom

Abstract reasoning ability correlates positively with acceptance of gays. Here is Exhibit A.

1/27/2012 12:06:25 PM
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