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Atheism cheapens everything it touches-look at the results of communism, the most powerful form of atheism on earth. Atheism is cheap on people, because it snobbishly says nine out of ten people through history have been wrong about God and have had a lie at the core of their hearts.

Superman, Amazon Religion Forum 67 Comments [2/14/2012 4:08:32 AM]
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this word salad is limp and flavorless. fail.

2/14/2012 4:20:25 AM

Serph-no-Okami

Don't most religions say people are horrible sinners who deserve eternal damnation by default? And that's supposed to be better how?

2/14/2012 4:21:20 AM

Prager

Communism is a philosophy about economics. Atheism has nothing to do with economics.

2/14/2012 5:08:35 AM

michael3ov

I don't even know where to begin with this nonsense.
Communism is in no way a form of atheism. I am sorry but that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Communism is an economic theory and has nothing to do with belief. Atheism does not say that "nine out of ten people through history have been wrong about God... blah blah blah." Atheism is a default position concerning the belief in a deity. An atheist simply does not hold a belief in a god or gods. You are also committing an appeal to populace fallacy. Even if every single person believes something that does not make the proposition, whatever it is, true. Now please go read a book besides the bible and stop 'researching' topics on the blogs of theists.

2/14/2012 5:14:14 AM

Bad Wolf

All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Acts 2:45-46

Hmmm, sounds like communism to me...

2/14/2012 5:40:22 AM

checkmate

it snobbishly says nine out of ten people through history have been wrong about God and have had a lie at the core of their hearts.

I'm not going to defend communism, but the logic is wrong.

The fact that the Earth is not flat 'snobbishly says that up until a certain date 100% of people through history were wrong about the shape of the Earth and had had a lie at the core of their hearts.'

So what?

2/14/2012 5:41:16 AM

Justanotheratheist

Atheism has nothing to do with communism, and so what if atheists reckon believers have always got it wrong? That's what atheism means, so sue me.

The truth, I say once more, is not a democracy.

2/14/2012 5:46:34 AM



"it snobbishly says nine out of ten people through history have been wrong about God and have had a lie at the core of their hearts."

...argumentum ad consequentiam FTL. Kindly go fuck off.

2/14/2012 5:54:39 AM

Mister Spak

Fundieism cheapens everything it touches-look at the results of christianism, the most powerful form of fundieism on earth. Christianism is cheap on people, because it snobbishly says nine out of ten people through history have been wrong about God and have had a lie at the core of their hearts.

Fixed.



2/14/2012 6:07:02 AM

N. De Plume

What does economics have to do with atheism?

2/14/2012 6:09:03 AM



I am an atheist and I abhor communism.
And yes, people have always been wrong about things, just as they still are today.
Most of modern science will be replaced by better theories as new evidence is discovered, so admitting that one was wrong is a good thing.

2/14/2012 6:28:12 AM



Is Christianity cheap on Romans and Greeks and the old Pagans and Buddhists and Taoists and Shintoists and blah de blah because it snobbishly says 10/10 people who aren't Christian have a lie at the core of their hearts?

2/14/2012 6:28:59 AM

Nolongershocked

Please form a sound, coherent argument and come back, thank you.

2/14/2012 6:47:39 AM



Whereas religion snobbishly assumes the entire universe was created for the benefit of its followers.

2/14/2012 6:50:20 AM

Raised by Horses

Yes, I'm sure your exhaustive knowledge of Communism could fill several libraries.

2/14/2012 7:01:02 AM

TB Tabby

Atheism cheapens everything it touches-look at the results of communism, the most powerful form of atheism on earth.

Communism =/= atheism. Early Christian societies tended to sell all their belongings and distribute the wealth equally. And the largely-secular Sweden has one of the highest standards of living in the world. Meanwhile, American Christians are wiping their asses with the Constitution, allowing children to die of easily treatable diseases, executing people for crimes they didn't commit, I could go on.

Atheism is cheap on people, because it snobbishly says nine out of ten people through history have been wrong about God and have had a lie at the core of their hearts.

If 9 out of 10 people believed 2 + 2 = 5, they would be wrong. No majority can elect facts. They exist independently of whether you believe or not. And no amount og belief, however sincere, can make a falsehood true. If it did, all religions would be true, because they all have fervent believers.

2/14/2012 7:03:51 AM

Doubting Thomas

Herr durr atheist are all communists! Duurrrrr!

Seriously this crap is so old it doesn't even faze me any more, and any time I see one of these stupid arguments it leads me to believe that all Christians are totally stupid. I know that's not true, but I can't help but develop a stereotype based on comments like this.

2/14/2012 7:12:02 AM

dionysus

Oh please. If you're a non-Catholic Christian then you're claiming that at least 90% of the world is wrong (depending on which sect you belong to that number could be much higher). Even as a Catholic you're still saying that over 80% of the world is wrong.

2/14/2012 7:35:17 AM

tmarcl

You really have no idea how logic, or even thinking in general, work, do you?

I could go into the millions of ideas that people have had throughout the millenia that have been wrong, despite being popular. I could go into the argument that if you're right (about an idea being popular makes it correct), then Christianity must be false, as two-thirds of the planet doesn't agree with it. But it would all go over your head.

2/14/2012 7:39:44 AM

D Laurier

High grade bullshit

2/14/2012 7:40:33 AM

Swede

Atheism is a lack of belief in gods.
Communism is an economic theory; to each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities. Didn't Jesus say something similar? There is more to Communism, but that's the core. In and of itself it has no relation to religion.

Atheism doesn't say anything, it's merely a lack of belief in gods.

I fail to see how atheism cheapens everything. Don't Christians snobbishly say that everyone but them have been wrong about God and have a lie at the core of their hearts?

There are many results of Communism, one being that everyone has equal living standards; no-one is starving to death and no-one is filthy rich. Now, after Communism has fallen in Russia, some people are starving and freezing to death and other people are rich enough to buy a small country or two.

2/14/2012 7:41:40 AM

D Laurier

Atheism: the acceptance of the fact that there are no gods.

Communism: The missguided motion that everyone is utterly equal and interchangeable, and that all difference is an artificial construct that generates envy.

2/14/2012 7:47:54 AM

Horsefeathers

"Atheism cheapens everything it touches-look at the results of communism, the most powerful form of atheism on earth."

Communism--with a large or small "c"--is not a form of atheism you half-wit.

However, if you'd like to see a good example of "small c" communism, just look in the New Testament and take a gander at how Jesus and the Apostles lived.

"Atheism is cheap on people, because it snobbishly says nine out of ten people through history have been wrong about God and have had a lie at the core of their hearts."

So, pointing out that we don't happen to share the unfortunate delusion that probably 98% of all other humans throughout history have shared means we're "cheap on people"? How, exactly?

2/14/2012 7:55:27 AM

Dr. Razark

KJV
Acts 2:
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Acts 4:
32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
...
34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.


Communism. Straight out of your own book. I also seem to recall some guy talking about selling all possessions and giving to the poor if you wanted to follow him. Must have been a rather minor character if you don't remember that part. I think it was the same guy that said you should pay taxes.

There was also a fellow named Judas, specifically mentioned as being the one that held the group's money-bag.

2/14/2012 8:01:00 AM

Reynardine

When I was a little kid, McCarthyists warned about teaching the Gospel in Sunday school, because it was too full of Communist notions,

2/14/2012 8:02:40 AM
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