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They are taking faith and crushing it. Why? Why? When you marginalize faith in America, when you remove the pillar of God-given rights, then what’s left is the French Revolution. What’s left is the government that gives you right, what’s left are no unalienable rights, what’s left is a government that will tell you who you are, what you’ll do and when you’ll do it. What’s left in France became the guillotine. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re a long way from that, but if we do and follow the path of President Obama and his overt hostility to faith in America, then we are headed down that road.

Rick Santorum, Think Progress 63 Comments [2/16/2012 5:26:04 AM]
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whatever

"Vote for me because I am The Persecuted One(TM)".

2/16/2012 6:00:02 AM



the pillar of God-given rights

My rights as a human being exist simply because I do. Since the existence of God cannot be proven, this cannot be used as the ultimate source of our rights. Sure, the Bill of Rights enumerates my rights as an American Citizen, but only while America exists.

You are only as free or oppressed as you allow yourself to be. I am totally free in every way because I will never yield, never give in, never submit to someone else trying to dominate me, be it our domestic government, an invading foreign horde, the local church with an axe to grind, the neighbor who doesn't like my music...

2/16/2012 6:16:44 AM



Wasn't the guillotine famous for executing the previous government?

2/16/2012 6:35:32 AM

Mister Spak

"They are taking faith and crushing it. Why? Why? When you marginalize faith in America, when you remove the pillar of God-given rights, then what’s left is the French Revolution."

No, what's left is America. Freedom of religion, wall of separation etc. It's in the constitution that you were supposed too uphold when you were in congress. But you were too busy frothing to do that.

2/16/2012 6:50:23 AM

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i like how he uses the FRENCH(!!!froth!1) revolution as a scare-term, when it was actually the american revolution that kicked off the french one... just sayin'

2/16/2012 6:56:31 AM

Jig Bilm

What a liar.

Allowing an institution that runs hospitals to dictate and force their narrow interpretation of their religion onto their own followers and followers of other religions is what's hostile to faith in America.

People/individuals have freedom of religion. Freedom of religion does not mean an institution has the right to force their views on others. The whole birth control isn't an attack on anyone's religious freedoms.

Just because Obama isn't forcing his religious views onto others doesn't make him hostile to faith. I know you perceive anyone who doesn't worship Jesus exactly the way you do as hostile to you faith (you weak pathetic-willed fool) and you think your rights are being violated when you're not allowed to dictate others.

Why don't you just fuck off Mr. "rape is a gift from god" Sanatarium.

2/16/2012 6:59:18 AM

Malitia

God-given rights? Surely not the ones we (re)discovered/invented around some hundred years ago when we (re)discovered humanism... :/

2/16/2012 6:59:50 AM

dionysus

From Wikipedia:
The French Revolution (French: Révolution française; 1789–1799), was a period of radical social and political upheaval in France that had a major impact on France and indeed all of Europe. The absolute monarchy that had ruled France for centuries collapsed in three years. French society underwent an epic transformation as feudal, aristocratic and religious privileges evaporated under a sustained assault from radical left-wing political groups, masses on the streets, and peasants in the countryside. Old ideas about tradition and hierarchy - of monarchy, aristocracy and religious authority - were abruptly overthrown by new Enlightenment principles of equality, citizenship and inalienable rights."

I can see why you'd see that as a bad thing, what with being a bigoted theocrat and all.

2/16/2012 7:03:41 AM

Dr.Shrinker

Careful Rick. Perry vowed to "end Obama's war on religion" in his "strong" commercial. That commercial made him the butt of jokes form coast to coast and coincided with the disastrous plummeting of his approval ratings.

Maybe you should focus on the real issues instead.

2/16/2012 7:14:57 AM

Doubting Thomas

So the alternative is to vote for Mr. Frothy and have him take away what few rights we have left? Don't forget, he is the one who said he thinks that the government belongs in people's bedrooms.

2/16/2012 7:24:41 AM

Reynardine

Off with your head, Rick...except that would be redundant.

2/16/2012 7:24:49 AM

Brendan Rizzo

They are taking reason and crushing it. Why? Why? When you marginalize rationality in America, when you remove the pillar of human rights, then what’s left is the late Roman Empire. What’s left is the government that gives you rights, there are no unalienable rights; what’s left is a government that will tell you who you are, what you’ll do and when you’ll do it. What’s left in Rome became lynch mobs killing Hypatia and torching the Library of Alexandria. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re a long way from that, but if we follow the path of Rick Santorum and his overt hostility to reason in America, then we are headed down that road.

Fixed, oh so gloriously. And now I'm scared for the future.

2/16/2012 7:45:49 AM



So you'd rather have a system that apes pre-Revolution France? Good to know Rick. Good to know.

2/16/2012 7:58:10 AM

Dr. Razark

The French Revolution?

Isn't that the part where the people threw down the elite, unaccountable ruling class and replaced the monarchy with a republic?

Yeah. We wouldn't want that here, would we?

2/16/2012 8:09:57 AM

Binky

Haha. I don't think Rick actually knows that much about the french revolution.

2/16/2012 8:18:26 AM

Anon-e-moose

"They are taking faith and crushing it. Why? Why? When you marginalize faith in America, when you remove the pillar of God-given rights, then what’s left is the French Revolution. What’s left is the government that gives you right, what’s left are no unalienable rights, what’s left is a government that will tell you who you are, what you’ll do and when you’ll do it. What’s left in France became the guillotine. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re a long way from that, but if we do and follow the path of President Obama and his overt hostility to faith in America, then we are headed down that road."

Ahem:

Pledge of Allegiance:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands; one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."

1924-1954

US Constitution.

1952 issue $5 note:



In all the above, when you see it - or don't - you'll shit bricks (P)Rick Rantsorbum.

...oh, and Obama being hostile to 'faith'...?:

'I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature'

'There is more need for lighthouses in our country than churches.'

'But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.'

'Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear'

'Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man'

'I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology.'

-Thomas Jefferson

Weren't the Puritans thrown out of my country - Britain - because of their hostility to anyone who didn't want their brand of 'faith', (P)Rick...? Said Puritans certainly would have burned you at the stake, for being a Heretic - a Catholic. Oh, teh irony.

'The Puritans didn't leave England to escape persecution, but to find a country in which they could freely persecute others'

-Gore Vidal

Your argument - and your 'faith' - is invalid.

Oh, and this is an absolute beaut in terms of ignorance, doublethink & & hypocrisy:

"then what’s left is the French Revolution."

Funny then, that said French - post-Revolution - you relied upon in your War of Independence, to prevent the British in keeping your fledgling country as a colony of Britain, under the King's rule. Y'know, (P)Ricky-boy, as in monarch. What that very French 'Revolution' you apparently loathe & detest sought (successfully) to eliminate, to create a Republic; y'know, (P)Ricky-boy, what your country wanted to be in the 18th Century, and ultimately succeeded in becoming, with the help of said post-Revolution French.

Funny, that. And not in a 'Funny-ha-ha' way, neither.

History education. We Brits has it. Do you, (P)Rick?

2/16/2012 8:28:28 AM

Table Rock

Why does this man even open his mouth? Nothing good ever comes out.

2/16/2012 8:29:39 AM

Swede

Poor marginalized Christian! They only make up a measly 75 % percent of the population.

Wait a minute; when you remove faith which tells you who you are, what to do and when to do it, you're left with a government that will tell you who you are, what to do and when to do it? Where's the big difference?

2/16/2012 8:43:46 AM

Thinking Allowed

If Ricky gets his way, then we would have exactly what he's says is happening.

2/16/2012 8:48:03 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Except, of course, for the unalienable right of homsexuals to pursue their happiness. Clearly government should stop that.

2/16/2012 9:16:18 AM

Flah

What a relief to see a Republican do something other than comparing Obama's government to Nazi Germany. It's nice to see someone compare it to the Reign of Terror instead.

2/16/2012 9:25:38 AM

Filin De Blanc

"what’s left is a government that will tell you who you are, what you’ll do and when you’ll do it"

Isn't that exactly what Santorum himself wants?

2/16/2012 9:35:01 AM

Agahnim

You're not left with a French Revolution, you're left with an American Revolution (2.0, possibly). Also, freedom of religion, moron. Also, France does not have the death penalty anymore, nor does most of the rest of Western and Central Europe. Oh, and did anyone tell you the French supported the Americans during the American Revolution?

2/16/2012 9:44:56 AM

gravematter

The French Revolution actually came about because the people wanted to be in control of their lives, rather than some bloated ruler who had no conception of what life was like for the ordinary people. It had nothing to do with religion. Basically, Santorum is using the French Revolution as a simile because he's realised there's only so many times you can compare things to the Nazis without people getting bored.

2/16/2012 9:49:24 AM

freako104

You're not persecuted. And if your faith is crushed it wasn't that strong.

2/16/2012 10:18:19 AM
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