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Okay, how to answer this one:



Wives are to submit. US laws say a wife has one vote as well as her husband.

Wives are to obey their husbands - unless they are commanded to do something immoral. Presidential elections invovle many moral/philosophical/religious issues.

What if someone insists on telling their wife who to vote for, or forbids their wife from cancelling out their vote due to voting for a different person?

What if a wife insists on voting in a way opposing her husband?


What advice would you give such a couple?

---------- Post added at 11:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:44 AM ----------

p.s. a follow-p question: Should women have been given the vote in the first place?

Pergamum, Puritan Board 64 Comments [2/24/2012 4:08:38 AM]
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clockworkgirl21

Well, I guess it's a good thing your religion doesn't mean shit in American government.

2/24/2012 4:36:30 AM

Stonespiral

I actually know a woman who doesn't vote because of this kind of logic. I was flabbergasted when I found out.

2/24/2012 4:43:34 AM



What advice would you give such a couple?
Visit Time Machines r Us and come on over to the 21st Century.

Should women have been given the vote in the first place?
Go fuck yourself Pergamum.

2/24/2012 4:45:51 AM

OhJohnNo

Bloody puritans. And one of them actually responded to that last question with "no".

2/24/2012 4:51:27 AM

SaneTeenageNerd

...Puritans are still around? Wikipedia says the movement was dead by the 18th century.

2/24/2012 6:14:46 AM

Swede

Who says wives are to submit? Your book?
Well, several of my books say women are equal to men, and have the same rights, privileges and responsibilities as men do.

Women wasn't given the vote, they fought long and hard for it.
We could fight again, I guess, Lysistrate-style. How long would you hold up, Pergamum?

2/24/2012 6:33:39 AM

Table Rock

My advice to give to that couple... let them both vote however the hell they want.

Everyone gets one vote. How they decide to use that vote is completely up to them. They could follow the advice of someone else, flip a coin or the candidate with the nicest haircut.

But if you think women should have their vote dictated by their husband or not have the vote at all because of an archaic belief that women are inferior or subservient to men... then go fuck yourself.

2/24/2012 6:36:08 AM



Presidential elections invovle many moral/philosophical/religious issues.

Per the 1st Ammendment and the third paragraph of the Sixth Article of the US Constitution, no, Presidential elections do not concern these issues.

Should women have been given the vote in the first place?

Probably not along with minority races. 'Cause, ya know, they're not "real" persons anyway. [/sarcasm]

2/24/2012 6:46:59 AM

dionysus

The whole point of voting is for people to vote for who they want, not vote the way someone else does. Otherwise you're just basically giving one person two votes and you're basically trying to cheat the system by forcing wives to vote the same way as their husbands even if they want to vote differently.

p.s. a follow-p question: Should women have been given the vote in the first place?

A follow up question: Should fundies get their right to vote taken away since they're trying to cheat the system?

2/24/2012 6:47:26 AM

checkmate

What advice would you give such a couple?

1.) Don't have any kids.

2.) Go jump in a lake.

Yes, the USA, the country that has to live with the embarrassment of not having been able to pass the Equal Rights Amendment.

Thank you Jesus.

2/24/2012 6:48:00 AM

Mister Spak

"p.s. a follow-p question: Should women have been given the vote in the first place?"

No. If women hadn't been given the vote we wouldn't have slid down the slippery slope to niggers voting.

2/24/2012 6:54:45 AM

Doubting Thomas

What advice would you give such a couple?

Vote for whoever the hell you want and forget about all this submission bullshit.

2/24/2012 6:59:30 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Die in a fire, sexist cunt.

(Yes, I know he's male. That's the point.)

2/24/2012 7:34:00 AM

KittyKaboom

Against my better judgement, I read as much of the thread as I could tolerate.

I feel nauseous.

2/24/2012 7:36:13 AM

D Laurier

I dont mind when my girlfreind does the whole submissive thing... as long as its only a bit of fun.

OTOH I respect her views, and regard her as a full fellow human being.
If I wanted a doormat, I would buy one at the thrift store.

2/24/2012 7:38:13 AM

tranz2deep

Women are to submit a vote? Then they need the right to vote.

The rest is just the typical bullshit.

2/24/2012 7:39:52 AM

rubber chicken

My advice is neither of them should vote.

2/24/2012 7:41:39 AM

WWWWolf

> Presidential elections invovle many moral/philosophical/religious issues.

Why?

In an ideal situation, you don't need to question the moral/philosophical/religious views of a politician. You just need to find out what they think of the situation and how they will fix it. You can be an optimist and believe the politicians are out there to help us, or a pessimist and hope that they can get the job done somehow before it's time for another round of empty promises.

I'd hate to live in a country where we'd need to constantly worry about the morality of people.

> What if someone insists on telling their wife who to vote for, or forbids their wife from cancelling out their vote due to voting for a different person?
> What if a wife insists on voting in a way opposing her husband?

This is what our Constitution says.

> "The Representatives shall be elected by a direct, proportional and secret vote. Every citizen who has the right to vote has equal suffrage in the elections."

My emphasis. Constitutional guarantee that my votes are none of your business, just as your votes would be none of mine. Same rules for men and women regardless of marital status.

Again, I'd hate to live in a country where people would basically have no direct guarantees of freedom of opinion.

And I'd hate to live in a country where votes are "cancellable". You may be able to tell whether or not any given person voted, and you may strike out a name in the list after the fact, but you're not supposed to be able to tell which candidate they voted, so you're screwed. Any form of ballot which doesn't guarantee this is badly designed and shouldn't be used at all.

2/24/2012 7:50:41 AM

Horsefeathers

"What advice would you give such a couple?"

I would advise the woman to stop being a doormat and to think seriously of divorcing her troglodyte of a husband and then to find some guy that won't treat her like chattel.

I'd advise the husband to get his head out of his ass and realize that any woman worth being married to is not going to "submit" to or "obey" you and that he should probably drag his sorry ass out of the 12th century and join the rest of us in the 21st century.

2/24/2012 7:53:02 AM

Jubba the Mad

I wish I'd never read that thread. Those people are disgusting.

2/24/2012 8:01:31 AM

Anon-e-moose

Emmeline Pankhurst is now revolving at ever increasing speed in her grave.

The sound of her bones hitting the sides of her coffin is rivalled only by that of toolboxes being opened, the clanking of very large spanners being removed, and grinding of teeth by all the surviving 'Rosie the Riveters' out there.

You are an insult to not only your 'Y' chromosome, Pergamum, but to all those women who did their part in supplying the war materiel to the real men who fought & died in WWII to ensure you'd have a democracy today, and those in the Women's Suffrage movement here in the UK and the US, who - in the past - ensured you'd have a vote in the first place.

...oh, I've had it with you so-called 'women'. 'Advice' is it, you want?: Fuck off to Saudi Arabia then, if you don't like Freedom and all the rights it gives you.

2/24/2012 8:14:03 AM

Prager

I'd tell her to get a divorce: her husband is a complete prick.

2/24/2012 8:16:39 AM

Mayhem

What kind of site is it where the term "Living in the 19th Century" would indicate an improvement and not an insult?

2/24/2012 8:47:31 AM

Sevagram

"What advice would you give such a couple?"

Grow up?

2/24/2012 8:50:09 AM

= POPE =

My advice? You want to call yourself Puritans, go find your natural enemy, the Quakers, and duke it out until only one of you survives. Why are there so many idiots who want to repeat history?

Your one vote is a fart in a mud puddle. Who cares? The Electoral College is just as likely to cancel it out anyway. Do the math. Most votes are cancelled by someone else, and the ballot is supposed to be secret. George Dumbya was elected by a handful of senile old bats in Florida.

2/24/2012 8:53:47 AM
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