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Okay, how to answer this one:



Wives are to submit. US laws say a wife has one vote as well as her husband.

Wives are to obey their husbands - unless they are commanded to do something immoral. Presidential elections invovle many moral/philosophical/religious issues.

What if someone insists on telling their wife who to vote for, or forbids their wife from cancelling out their vote due to voting for a different person?

What if a wife insists on voting in a way opposing her husband?


What advice would you give such a couple?

---------- Post added at 11:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:44 AM ----------

p.s. a follow-p question: Should women have been given the vote in the first place?

Pergamum, Puritan Board 64 Comments [2/24/2012 4:08:38 AM]
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Dr.Shrinker

Son, you're joining this conversation about 100 years too late.

2/24/2012 8:58:11 AM

whoanelly

Teh hell? Puritan Board? I thought the Puritans didn't exist anymore.
Anyway, in response to your four questions:
1. The person you are referring to sucks. Let the woman vote for who she fucking wants to.
2. Tough shit for the husband.
3. I'd tell the husband to deal and pat the wife on the back for thinking.
4. YES. Fuck off.

2/24/2012 9:23:01 AM

Philbert McAdamia

Bubba: What should a wife do if her husband finds it necessary to, you know, smack the little woman around a little?

Cletus: Uh, I dunno, Bubba.

Bubba: The dishes, if she knows what's good for her.

2/24/2012 9:24:30 AM



These guys... They want to give male fetuses the right to vote, but don't think adult women should be allowed to.

2/24/2012 9:35:00 AM



My advice to a couple with opposing political views is thus: Examine your core values and decide if, stripped of all party rhetoric and ignoring smears, they are still compatible. If so - and they most likely will be - then there is little to worry about so long as both understand that their spouse works to better their lives and their country in their own way and only time will tell how that plays out.

If not, and it turns out your differences are irreconcilable, then I wonder how such conflicting personalities ended up together in the first place. My first guess is 'marriage of convenience' which would basically have been a farce from the start and a laughably common example to rub in the faces of 'family values' groups that want to tell everyone else how to have a healthy marriage and family unit.

2/24/2012 9:38:44 AM

Skatepunk

Psst. Hey, Pergamum.

Women were allowed to vote in the U.S. 90 years ago.

Here's a time machine. Thet way you can return to your "utopia".

2/24/2012 9:51:42 AM

Berny

Here's your answer, the Bible is a religious book. The United States of America is a nation defined by it's Constitution, which does not recognize God, and does not draft laws based on religion. Therefore women are recognized as individuals not the property of their husbands, fathers, or nearest male relative.
What you want is Saudi Arabia. Go there and leave us the fuck alone.

2/24/2012 9:57:28 AM

Osiris

Then that's the wife's choice. Yes I understand that as a fundie the very concept of choice blows your mind, but that's how a democracy works.

2/24/2012 10:40:50 AM

Skyknight

Considering that "Puritan" was actually a slur, I'm not sure I understand why this isn't instead called "Congregationalist Board". Then again, considering that "pagan" comes from the Latin for "yokel" (q.v. Rome-based Christians tending to look down their noses at outskirts polytheism and animism), that makes another term I can't quite figure out the adoption of by the ones it was used to condemn...

2/24/2012 10:48:07 AM

J. James

The only reason you're asking this is because the GOP is hemorrhaging support among women voters and you want to coerce them into voting against their interests.

2/24/2012 10:51:19 AM

Persephone 66

I guess I should get back in the kitchen....

2/24/2012 11:51:58 AM

Philbert McAdamia

@Skyknight
another term I can't quite figure out the adoption of by the ones it was used to condemn...

Teabagger

Dittohead

Redneck

Jesus Freak

Niggah




2/24/2012 12:30:37 PM

nazani14

What if indeed?
You can insist all you want, but you'll never know.
That's why everyone votes in these teensy booths.


2/24/2012 1:10:51 PM

clockworkgirl21

I have no issue with women who feel this way just choosing not to vote. The less idiots voting, the better.

2/24/2012 1:41:41 PM

Old Viking

Ah, for the good old days, when wimmins was wimmins and slaves was slaves.

2/24/2012 1:43:00 PM

TheJebusFire

Did I enter some sort of Time Warp into the 1880's?

2/24/2012 2:52:02 PM

farpadokly

Let me know how pretending it's the 17th century works out for you there, Puritans.

2/24/2012 4:29:59 PM

aaa

Something tells me that your vote is irrelevant anyway.

2/24/2012 4:47:46 PM

John

I know this sort of thing happens once in a while (e.g., Carville and Matalin), but I know very few couples where the husband and the wife are at opposite political poles. Coercing someone to change their vote is illegal, so the husband in the example would be breaking the law.

What advice would you give such a couple?

Either accommodate your differences or split. Carville (the husband) is a Democrat. Should he order his wife, Republican consultant Mary Matalin, to vote for Obama? Note that Carville is Matalin's third husband, while Matalin is Carville's first wife.

2/24/2012 6:01:09 PM

JSS

I know. Pffft! Suffrage is so overrated! And putting away religious suppression to embrace scientific technology that would improve our lives? Don't get me started!

2/24/2012 9:16:56 PM

TheReasonator

@Stonespiral,

That works out for us. If only all good Christian(tm) couples would do this it would cut their voting power in half.

2/24/2012 10:16:46 PM

Justanotheratheist

I think that anybody who'd ask that question in the 21st century should be put down on the grounds that the gene pool is becoming too contaminated.

2/25/2012 12:53:21 AM

SpukiKitty

Real life Puritans...

Soooo...you guys have to wear goofy 17th Century clothes with that or what?

2/25/2012 6:09:48 AM



What does the Bible say about voting?. Whatever.

2/25/2012 6:33:32 AM



The Bible itself gives the answer, no advice. The "submit to your husbands" piece is only related to the couple, not to the personal opinions or the choices that the two people do outside the family realm. Look how easy.

2/25/2012 6:52:11 AM
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