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2/24/2012 8:43:31 AM
At what point in the whole of recorded history has 'the family' ever collapsed?
2/24/2012 8:50:53 AM
Which is why it is so easily accepted in the middle east?
2/24/2012 9:26:18 AM
I bet if I asked a thousand Americans to define the perfect family I'd get a thousand different answers.
As usual Pat Buchanan is a fount of bullshit.
2/24/2012 9:54:21 AM
You know... I think Pat might be legitimitely insane due to decreasing church influence.
Poor old fart can't get with the times...
2/24/2012 9:54:56 AM
"the Weimar Republic, with a decay of society and a collapse of its basic cinder block, the economy"
more accuracy added
2/24/2012 10:19:32 AM
"homosexuality is not a right".
There is a good argument for this. Nowhere is it specifically enumerated in the constitution that I know of. But than again...neither is heterosexual sex. What is your point, Pat?
"Its rise almost always is accompanied....with a decay of society and...)". Hm. I didnt know that homosexuality could "rise". I thought the statistical percentage of homosexuals to heterosexuals are somewhat constant. Sort of like being left handed. They have always been there. Perhaps you are more aware of them, but that doesnt mean they are on a "rise". So once again Pat, what is your point?
2/24/2012 10:21:13 AM
Filin De Blanc
Is this guy literally just making stuff up out of whole cloth now? There was no prominent gay element in the Weimar Republic.
2/24/2012 10:37:46 AM
You guys will look to any collapsing government in history won't you? "Oh and the Ottoman Empire, it was because of gays don't you know. And Somalia, that was because they were all gay."
2/24/2012 10:39:23 AM
"Homosexuality is not a civil right. Its rise almost always is accompanied, as in the Weimar Republic"
And is there something about being gay that goes against the family or something? Don't gay people have families too?
2/24/2012 11:22:57 AM
If the family is a cinder block, are gays the Italian marble of society?
2/24/2012 11:24:04 AM
The failure of the Weimar Republic was caused by the gays???
2/24/2012 12:12:09 PM
Ah yes, the wretched Weimar republic. When Germany wasn't bullying other countries, exterminating Jews or fragmented. What a horrible time that was. Wouldn't you rather have any of the above than filmmakers and nightclubs indulging in a bit of morose hedonism?
2/24/2012 1:19:35 PM
Basic cinder block? As contrasted, say, with the deluxe cinder block?
2/24/2012 1:36:06 PM
RIVERS WILL RUN BLOOD AND NAZIS WILL ONCE AGAIN RIDE DINOSAURS!!
2/24/2012 2:39:16 PM
I've heard fundies toss the phrase "Just like the Weimar Republic" around before to sound historical, but I have yet to hear any of them explain how post WW1 Germany led directly to Nazi Germany. A charismatic douchebag took the country by force in a coup de'tat , that's the exact opposite of a logical conclusion, it's like saying that getting run over by a drunk driver is the most logical outcome of me going outside.
2/24/2012 3:45:52 PM
Till those good old family values Nazis came along and starting breeding good Aryan German babies. Just completing Pat's thought.
2/24/2012 4:17:22 PM
to Nazi Germany. A charismatic douchebag took the country by force in a coup de'tat[sic!]
Uhh, no. Hitler's party won enough votes in an election to have him appointed Chancellor by President Hindenburg. Then things really went downhill. There was never any coup d'etat.
As with the whole so-called Weimar era, Hitler's path to power is very complicated. Much too complicated for the likes of a two syllable demagogue like Buchanan, and obviously for many others too.
2/24/2012 4:31:04 PM
The fuck is this shit.
2/24/2012 4:45:23 PM
@Checkmate, thank you for correcting me, I'm a bio nerd not a history nerd. Still my point stands, Weimar Republic is a popular fundie buzzword, but there's no reason to think it was a clear step on the way to Nazism
2/24/2012 4:58:14 PM
Pat Buchanan is from the WEENIE REPUBLIC!
I think these guys watched one two many showings of "Cabaret". Why they're watching "Cabaret" is anyone's guess...closeted, maybe?
2/24/2012 5:26:31 PM
There's no evidence that homosexuality has ever "risen".
2/24/2012 6:10:47 PM
Coming from a guy who probably doesn't recognize the peoples' right to freedom of religion both in choice and practice, not to mention the need for a citation to his claim about the Weimar Republic. Away with this windbag.
2/24/2012 9:11:06 PM
And the Weimar Republic was better than what came before or after it. Your point?
2/25/2012 12:04:35 AM
Cinder block? I think you meant cornerstone. Talk about just phoning it in, you've obviously lost your edge. No wonder you're wandering the wilderness, praying to your racist jesus for a guest spot on fox.
2/25/2012 12:31:08 AM
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