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Face it, what we REALLY need, is a law (under penalty of death) that keeps ALL dimocrats out of politics. Let them write poetry, act, sing or what ever, but let the ADULTS run the state/country. Or maybe we could just pass a law (with the same penalty) for lying, and that would clean them out pretty quickly too.
Dimocrats are just too stupid to be in politics, making decisions for others.
Abortion is the sacrament of the radical left wing religion of liberalism.

George Johnson, AJC.com 77 Comments [2/27/2012 4:18:41 AM]
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I don't consider myself a Republican so much as a conservative. Most Republicans are not really conservatives in the traditional sense.

I realize that the Democratic part does some good things for the poor, minorities, etc., but these do not outweigh their anti-biblical and anti-human policies. I would not vote for any party that advocates for abortion, sodomy, repression of religious freedoms, etc.

2/27/2012 7:07:09 PM

so does that mean that being male disqualifies me from partaking of the Holy Sacrament of Liberalism???

why would Satan do that to me, i thought he liked men most of all :(

everyone knows that women cant do the bidding of the Dark One as well as us, they dont even have a rape-pylon attached to their front!

why the fuck do they get to partake in the Sacrament of Abortion and we dont?

2/27/2012 7:35:51 PM

D Laurier

Your "Dimocrats" are also imaginary, so your ranting is pointless.

This "radical left wing religion of liberalism" of yours, is also imginary, and the same ule applies

2/27/2012 7:45:18 PM

Kevin Klawitter

The reason I think that the Republican party has been able to get such insane legislation proposed and such a ridiculous set of candidates is that policy-wise, Republicans have it easy. They don't really need to DO anything. Conservatives always campaign essentially as preventative measures: "If you don't vote for me, those damn Liberals will steal your guns, tax you into poverty, and force you to have gay sex with every man in the country, only impregnating women so the babies can later be abortions!"

Democrats, on the other hand, by being synonymously referred as "progressives", inevitably end up disappointing their voters by not doing absolutely everything they want to do. And why is that? They know they can't risk alienating their more conservative constituents who could easily turn on them. Most of the left-wing extremists who have been bad-mouthing President Obama so much and even calling him a "closet conservative" would rather him act like a dictator who imposes liberal policies than a man who tries to champion empathy, reason, and compromise. And THEN they fail to see the irony when they attack Republicans for being "fascist" (not to say some of them aren't, but there you go).

Conservatives can do anything as long as they continue to claim to support right-wing causes. Liberals eat themselves.

2/27/2012 7:59:10 PM

Brendan Rizzo

@ Tempus:

Thank you for proving my point completely and totally. The United States is becoming, in trope-language, the most immutable of all possible Crapsack Worlds. Nothing will ever get better. It won't. I am even willing to become a fucking immigrant to escape this, and you all know badly immigrants are treated everywhere in the world.

So to those of you who exhort me not to, shut the fuck up.

2/27/2012 8:19:07 PM


@ His4Life

The Democrats aren't anti-Bible; most are Christians themselves. They are just more likely to support a system NOT based on religious texts (like the Bible, but also the Koran and other books). In other words, a system that doesn't favour ANY religion, and is thus neutral and more constitutonal in terms of freedom of religion.
Many Democrats do not support abortion. Also, 'sodomy', as you put it, does NOT hurt anyone if all involved are consenting adults. They are not more likely to commit rape or molest children. Are you against a man and a woman dressing up as superheroes for their smexy time? That's not natural, or traditional, and God didn't intend for people to get their kicks out of superhero constumes, but I'm pretty sure there aren't protests/campaigns against it.
As I said before, most Democrats are Christians, and most are NOT supportive of repression of religious freedoms. There is a difference between neutrality and actual opposition, and Democrats are more likely to favour neutrality. Yes, this may mean you can't put up posters telling kids to pray/love Jesus in public schools, but would you be happy if they put up posters in schools telling kids to praise Allah and pray in the direction of Mecca? Or posters directly telling religious kids to stop believing in God? Exactly the same thing - respecting everyone by not favouring any religion/philosophy.

Regardless, I'm happy that you're supportive of the poor/minorities. Too many people of many political persuasions don't give a toss.

2/27/2012 8:20:17 PM


Yeah, and kill all rethuglicans too...

…just wait until the next official "dimocrat" or "rethuglican" convention.

2/27/2012 9:00:09 PM


@ Tempus

-slow clap- Bravo, sir. (or ma'am.)

@ His4Life

"most republicans aren't conservative"

-spits water all over my monitor- BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! -collapses to the floor, tears of mirth steaming down face- Lady, where do you live?

"repression of religious freedom"

Seriously? You people want to make this country a theocracy, eliminate any person/sect that disagrees with you, and shove your Bronze Age beliefs on the rest of us, who have actually managed to drag our asses into the 21st century. Do you think your ilk promote religious freedom when they scream about Muslims wanting to build mosques, or Wiccan soldiers being acknowledged as such on their graves? Player, please. Fuck off with your persecution bullshit, kthanxbai.

2/27/2012 9:02:15 PM


Brendan Rizzo: Bah. Where is it written the weak can't defeat the strong on a consistent basis? Strength, weakness...numbers, probability, nothing more. (I have no use for fate/destiny/determinism/etc., can you tell?)

I'm wondering if America's Overton Window was ever noticeably leftward to begin with, though. You made a point about the electoral system being horribly indirect. I'll own that at first, there weren't all that many templates to work with. So the question becomes, why wasn't it ever improved once flaws became known? All that's coming to mind right now is that from the onset, the populace at large has had a fondness for maintaining the status quo...

I don't think the sheer size of the nation helps much. The Founders weren't expecting the nation to move past the Mississippi, after all; how were they supposed to anticipate something like the Lousiana Purchase? (Let's leave aside the War of 1812 hawks who fancied annexing Canada; I think those were outliers) And of course, with the clamor of the slave states, you probably had legislators distracted with hammering out which new states got slave or free status when. And that's on top of every other inter-state concern that showed up. The best bet would probably be to, like Czechoslovakia, partition the nation into three or four similarly sized new nations. Note that I'm not sure what to use for partitions past the Mississippi. Canada can probably have Alaska, and Hawai'i can have its independence restored (WHY did it get annexed, again?).


2/27/2012 9:06:32 PM


There was talk early on about America (PRE-Louisiana Purchase, at that!) having greatness, being like unto the British, French, etc. Empires, and there's no way Manifest Destiny helped the matter. Given that history, I wonder if it's inevitable that America developed a sense of prestige-entitlement--the very sort of thing that animates the hyper-conservatives. Enlightenment/Humanist precepts are actually pretty young, and the old order of Hierarchy, which cannot imagine a world of equals as viable (q.v. all the ideas that egalitarianism requires totalitarianism--implying that the only possible egalitarianism is absolute misery of all. It kind of suggests that there will always be a segment of humanity whose existence will never be anything other than struggle and woe...You remember what I said of my opinion of fatalism, yes?), and so is determined to maintain the only way its adherents think they can ever thrive.

In the end, that's probably the struggle we need--a way to disprove the fatalists of hierarchy.

2/27/2012 9:08:41 PM


You know, far be it from me to actually give a damn about politics, but all I see on the news anymore is the Republican hopefuls slinging shit at everyone within throwing distance, including one another. Fix that, and then get back to me.

2/27/2012 9:36:51 PM

J. James


Hell yes. What you said is 100% accurate- but incomplete. There is a bright side, and it is this: people are finally starting to call them on their shit. Like you. And media like Salon.com and MSNBC are finally, blessedly, beginning to find an audience for what they've been warning about for years now. And the criticism has been getting more and more courageous, advocating not just pointless, ground-losing compromise, but actual PROGRESS again.

And then there's things like Occupy which are beginning to draw the correct kind of focus and perspective to the issues.

In short, 2012 looks like it's going to be a net gain for the Dems.

2/27/2012 9:58:11 PM


So... is this your way to solve the (imaginary) trouble of the world hating America's freedom?

2/27/2012 10:12:51 PM


Personally, I am all for a draconian law demanding the death of any politician who lies. Sure there wont be anyone left on either side of the political spectrum, but the for once government might actually work properly.

Of course the rest is just your usual warble.

2/27/2012 11:03:36 PM


We give the people what they want.
And what the people want can only be the sensless slaughter of the gutter-slime that litter this nation for cash and prizes...

GWAR is just an act dude.

2/28/2012 2:41:17 AM


"Or maybe we could just pass a law (with the same penalty) for lying, and that would clean them out pretty quickly too."

You're joking right? As if the Rethuglicans are any less guilty of lying and misleading the electorate...

2/28/2012 3:52:09 AM


FACE is what we really need *rotflmao*

2/28/2012 9:07:40 AM


You give the rest of us Southerners a bad name. Shut the hell up.

2/28/2012 10:52:11 AM


What's a Dimocrat? A Democrat that refuses to carry the USD in increments other than $0.10?

Oh, and the death penalty is going away slowly but surely. It's already gone in Illinois, so you can't get me because I'm a Democrat in Illinois. You lose. (The ones without the death penalty tend to be blue states, so you lose further.)

And why is everything fundies disagree with a religion? Why do they have an aversion to such a simple word to the point that unlike moderate and liberal Christians they deny their religion is in fact one in favor of the "personal relationship" nonsense (until it comes to tax-exempt status, that is)?

2/28/2012 6:19:25 PM

Often Partisan

"radical left wing religion of liberalism."

if you think that American liberalism is radically left wing, what I believe in would make you have a heart attack...

2/29/2012 10:24:27 AM


Often Partisan: Given how often the term comes up, I get the feeling that to Johnson et al., "radical left-wing" and "radical liberal" are redundant terms. For them, ANY desire to alter the status quo is "radical", and therefore (to them, at least) baleful. For who but a creature of spite would reject the "perfect society"?

2/29/2012 11:10:00 AM


@ Tempus

And you, my friend, are helping it along.

The problem isn't the Republicans. It isn't the Democrats. It's people like you, who refuse to believe anything positive about the other side.

Obama will probably win, but Congress will be so radicalized that the President of 2012-16 will be forced into weakness due to inability to do anything.

And your vicious pessimism will be singing it's praises.

2/29/2012 5:20:31 PM


@Leliel: Is this some new way of saying both sides are bad, so vote Republican?

Whether you give a shit one way or another, believe it or not, I actually started out as a Goldwater conservative in the 80s. Then I watched as the Jesus freaks, wannabe fascists, racist asshats and the worshipers of Ayn Rand finally finished the job of eating the GOP and morphing it into the circus sideshow it currently is, without anything I did being able to stop it or even slow it down in its relentless march off a cliff. Yes, I'm well aware that there are still good, kind and decent people who still call themselves conservatives. No, they are not in power, and they have not been in power for a very long time, and if the present leadership of the GOP has any say, they never will be again. Yes, I actually did what I could to stop it, limited as that was. No, it did not work, because they did not want the help. I am no more responsible for that than I am for 9-11, and I am not responsible for what's happening NOW. My last dying dalliance with political conservatism in any form came to an inglorious end right about the time Clinton was impeached over staining Monica Lewinsky's blue dress. I didn't break it, and I for damn sure can't fix it, because they honestly don't want it to be fixed.

Today we have one political party that is fractious, weak and disorganized, but at least occasionally represents something very vaguely resembling sanity and everyday normal common human decency, and a rightwing religious party dedicated to endless appeals to the reptilian hindbrain that's actually decided among many, many other things that, as an actual official party position, it now actually opposes free and unopposed access to birth control and women's services, not merely abortion, even at the cost of putting lives in danger.

The self-described party of fiscal responsibility ran off and left me a very, very long time ago, and reaching back across the aisle got me bitten. Repeatedly. So I finally took the hint. If that makes me a partisan shill in your eyes, so be it. I can live with that. And I don't particularly care if you approve of my attitude toward that or not. I'm too fucking tired.

Peace out.

3/1/2012 1:25:47 AM

3/1/2012 10:16:36 PM

And destroy the very essence of the country?. And learn to read and right, before you call yourself "adult"

3/4/2012 10:14:12 AM

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