Quote# 86239

And if the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. It all comes from, I would argue, this right to privacy that doesn't exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution, this right that was created, it was created in Griswold — Griswold was the contraceptive case — and abortion. And now we're just extending it out. And the further you extend it out, the more you — this freedom actually intervenes and affects the family. You say, well, it's my individual freedom. Yes, but it destroys the basic unit of our society because it condones behavior that's antithetical to strong healthy families. Whether it's polygamy, whether it's adultery, where it's sodomy, all of those things, are antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family.

Every society in the history of man has upheld the institution of marriage as a bond between a man and a woman. Why? Because society is based on one thing: that society is based on the future of the society. And that's what? Children. Monogamous relationships. In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing.

Rick Santorum, USATODAY.com 111 Comments [2/28/2012 4:24:30 AM]
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Incoherent, confused, and bigoted. Yes, folks, it's the leading Republican candidate for the Presidency!

I suppose being a dimwit makes it easy for his paymasters to manipulate him.

2/28/2012 4:28:04 AM

Jesus Klingon

"You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does."

I would argues yes, it does, too. That's not what we're advocating.

2/28/2012 4:39:02 AM


"I hate freedom"

- Rick Santorum

2/28/2012 4:42:37 AM


Santorum, do yer fuckin' research. It doesn't take long at all to find historical and cultural examples of non-heteronormative marriages.

Also, the 'traditional' family didn't exist until about seventy years ago with the Baby Boom, so there's that too.

This guy makes Catholics everywhere look bad.

2/28/2012 4:44:13 AM


While the word 'privacy' does not actually exist in the constitution, a combination of several amendments -- notably the 4th and 14th -- can be used to imply that the state shouldn't care what we're doing behind closed doors and not hurting anyone else. And that goes back much further than Griswold v Connecticut.

The concept of marriage has already evolved significantly over history. Arguments against bigamy and polygamy generally start with the emotional impact and end with economic ones, neither of which are a problem with same sex couples. (at least no more of a problem than with opposite sex couples)

2/28/2012 4:46:41 AM


And this makes me very happy Obama will wipe his ass with you come November.

2/28/2012 4:54:12 AM


Uh, monogamous relationships have hardly been the standard in every society.

Even the fucking Bible he claims to love so much endorses polygamy and adultery in the form of concubines.

2/28/2012 5:24:33 AM


"Within your home" was the springing point there, Ricky!
To my knowledge you do have the right to adultery, there are no laws against it.
You can hardly have bigamy or polygamy within your home.

Some strong healthy families survive because one or both have affairs on the side. Not everyone has the same sex drive, ya know.

Many societies have upheld the institution of marriage as a bond between one man and serveral women, just read the Bible; you'll find several examples in there. One man can impregnate many women in a short space of time, but women have to be pregnant for nine months before a child is born. If it's all about children, then polygamy is the most effective way, stupid!

Check out the Greeks, it might not have been homosexual marriage, but people lived together for years and years in marriage-like relationships.

2/28/2012 5:27:05 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

Why is the GOP so chock-full of stupid assholes who know nothing about The Constitution, or America?

Whoa, what are you doing, Rick?...

2/28/2012 5:29:30 AM


'And if the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery'


Bigamy and incest are prohibited by other laws for other reasons. Bigamy because it is a nightmare in terms of rights extended to the partners and tends to result in very messy divorces and the like. Incest because of the genetic implications of any offspring that may result, plus the problem of consent.

The only reason you want laws against homosexuality is because 'God says so' and 'because it's icky', which are not actually very good reasons, if you notice.

You may notice that Polygamy, as long as it's outside marriage, is perfectly legal. As is adultery. Obviously in the Papal States of America when Santorum becomes Grand Inquisitor or Defender of the Faith or whatever he'll call the presidency, these will be banned along with all manner of other ungodly things such as science, dancing, eye contact and proximity.

Freedom: You keep saying that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.

2/28/2012 5:33:33 AM


Am I being cynical, or are the Republican voters homing in on the most extreme right wing paranoia and bigotry available from the various republican candidates, just to get as far away from Obama's "extremist Islamic Marxist socialist baby-murdering antichrist" policies as possible? (Gosh I type long sentences.) If so, then it appears Rick is your next president! All he has to do is maintain his already absurd levels of bigotry and he's in.

2/28/2012 5:34:16 AM


Won't somebody think of the children!?


There's 7 billion of us on this planet. How many more people do we need?

2/28/2012 5:34:19 AM


This know-nothing yeast infection makes Bush look intelligent and articulate. That's almost a talent.

2/28/2012 5:35:03 AM

Mister Spak

And if Rick the Frother says the government has the right to police the inside of your bedroom you don't have the right to anything.

For example if the government was captured by the wrong religion it could enforce sharia on him. Frothy would cry and whine about how his freedom of religion was being violated and never see the connection with his own anti-American opinions.

2/28/2012 5:42:00 AM


Ricky, open a history book and then read your own fucking holy book.

I'm starting to think there should be some sort of history/constitution test that these people should take before they can run for president, like the tests taken for citizenship, only a little more involved.

2/28/2012 5:49:28 AM

fuck off, Rick you are the epitome of hypocrisy your wife had a abortion to save her life and those malpractice lawsuits and about that audi and supporting american auto industry

2/28/2012 5:50:29 AM


As long as everybody is adult, informed, and ok with it - yes, you have the right to do it.
If you have a problem with rights and freedom, perhaps you should not be running for president.

2/28/2012 5:59:39 AM

Brendan Rizzo

1. That's a slippery slope.

2. Other than incest, none of those are actually bad things.

3. Griswold v. Connecticut was nearly FIFTY YEARS AGO. If Santorum were a real conservative, he wouldn't be touching it. This shows that he is a reactionary.

4. If he gets elected, God forbid, the USA is doomed.

2/28/2012 6:01:22 AM


You can do what you want within the law. It has to be with informed consenting human adults. So that isn't "anything". But anything that falls within that is absolutely nobody else's business.
As for the sacred family, what of those who don't choose to have a family?
And actually, historically, I think you'll find that family and childrearing patterns have been pretty fluid. The nuclear family is actually a very recent innovation.
In the world of today, we don't really need to produce children so much. There are too many babies in the world. Contraception has freed us from all that. Now we can have sex for fun.

2/28/2012 6:02:21 AM


What? We don't have the right to consensual sex in our homes, but we have the right to sleep with dead babies and make our children play with them?

2/28/2012 6:05:59 AM


Reynardine, I am afraid you are being a huge asshole here, and you're way out of line. Santorum and his wife suffered from the death of their expected, loved, and wanted child hours after birth, and whether you like them or not, they suffered greatly from the loss. They brought their baby home for the night as a way to cope. Their children waited for months for their baby sibling, and I see no harm with letting them see their deceased sibling for closure.

I hope you rethink your statement. As much as I dislike Santorum, he lost a child, and he's allowed to grieve however he wants.

2/28/2012 6:13:26 AM

Someone with balls get this fuck in front of a national audience and ask him to explain how this collapse of society will come about. Make him explain how a proportionately tiny number of "non-traditional" relationships will damage the millions of heterosexual marriages that exist or will exist. Make him explain why babies will suddenly stop being made because a proportionately tiny number of people formalise their relationships by getting married. Make him listen to why his BS about incest and bestiality is a crock and ask him how, as a lawmaker, he didn't know that. Don't let him squirm or throw out his buzzwords. Show him up as the lying fuck he is.

2/28/2012 6:15:47 AM

Churchy LaFemme

Polygamous marriages create more stable families. There are more adults to provide income and help raise children. If one or more adults die, the family can still continue.

Good to know you don't think people have any right to privacy. Will you volunteer to be the first to have government cameras installed in your bedroom? Thought not.

2/28/2012 6:23:40 AM


I know there are extremist factions in the Catholic church, but not many, and the church itself has spoken against these canidates on the issues of the poor (welfare) and troubled (unemployed, trapped in an unfair morgage)whom are favorite whipping boys of the GOP.

This is an Evangalist yapping here, a fundamentalist in Catholic clothing, like the ones FoxNews finds who don't speak church doctrine ever but are very popular in the right-wing fundamentalist circles. This is most apparent on the question of Evolution, accepted by the Vatican long ago but demonized by FoxNews Catholics and politicians like Santorum.

Just as Republican infiltrate and are elected as Democrats every year just to turn around and vote on the GOP line everytime, I believe there are now Fundies infiltrating the Catholic church, creating sects of Evangelists within.

It could be the vatican is experimenting here too, trying to tap into the type of hateful, intolerant Christianity that has arose in America.

2/28/2012 6:28:36 AM

The Watcher

Ah. I see. So you hate freedom then. Well you better tear down that big "FREEDOM" banner you carry around to all your events, because you're clearly just paying lip service to it.

2/28/2012 7:11:30 AM

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