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Ugh, not this "atheists are all amoral killers" shit again.
3/4/2012 7:28:48 AM
"Of course, not every atheist is a killer."
Nor is every theist, though you'll find a disproportionately higher number of theists have killed someone when compared to the number of atheists who have.
"Many atheists are afraid of the reaction of their theistic neighbors or they retain some shreds of decency from theistic parents or grandparents."
I don't even know most of my neighbors, theists or not, nor would I particularly give a damn what their reaction might be to anything that I might do.
Neither of my parents are religious in any way. When I was born I had only two surviving grandparents--one from each of my own parents--neither of whom were religious, or if they were never bothered to tell me about it.
"But, given free reign, how murderous could atheists become?"
Probably not very given that atheists recognize that society works better when we don't kill one another off left and right for petty reasons. Several theists quoted on this site, on the other hand, have outright stated that they would go on a murdering, raping, and pillaging spree were it not for their invisible friend keeping them in check. Which one seems scarier to you?
"Atheism is perhaps similar to anarchism."
Atheism has jack shit to do with anarchism, or any other "ism" you want to try to tack onto it.
"It may not explicitly advocate violence, however if widely accepted it does cause terrible destruction."
Cite your source for this claim.
3/4/2012 7:32:03 AM
Projection much, Abrahamic?
Seriously, anyone from those three bloodthirsty cults are in no position to speak of anyone in such a manner.
3/4/2012 7:34:07 AM
Here is someone deliberately misunderstanding atheism, communism and anarchism in order to slander them. Just like what we see on the internet in endless permutations every day.
This kind of propaganda is so crude and dishonest that sooner or later there will be a backlash against it.
3/4/2012 7:36:18 AM
I find that there are more theistic killers than atheistic killers.
3/4/2012 7:47:41 AM
Of course, not every Orthodox Jew sexualizes prepubescent children. Many fear to spit on, throw stones at, or scream abuse at children whom they find provocatively dressed because of their non-Orthodox neighbors. But, given free reign, how depraved could Orthodox Jews become? Click here to find out.
3/4/2012 7:48:19 AM
What about most of the leaders of Europe?
3/4/2012 7:58:47 AM
This pillock is a complete idiot. What dictionary is he using?
3/4/2012 8:19:36 AM
It's been a long long time since there was an explicitly religious Jewish state, but the way things are going in Israel it won't be long before we find out just how murderous religious Jews can be.
And then what will your excuse be, frummer boy?
3/4/2012 8:29:42 AM
Oh, for fuck's sake. I went to look at his site. This arsehole can't even have the excuse that he was brought up in Orthodox culture. The bastard is a convert!
In which case, fuck right off. I deny that you are a Jew. We don't want you.
3/4/2012 8:33:02 AM
You clearly know nothing about anarchism. Or much else.
3/4/2012 8:34:52 AM
Could I live in THIS country, instead?
3/4/2012 8:45:55 AM
Even if atheism were the same as nihilism, this would still be an appeal to consequence - a well known logical fallacy. If you don't like the implications of a premise, DEAL WITH IT, because it doesn't make the premise any less true.
3/4/2012 8:48:44 AM
:rolls eyes: Yes, we're just sitting around waiting for atheism to become more accepted so we can all go on murderous rampages.
I guess countries like Sweden where most people are atheist and yet they have a very high standard of living just don't matter.
3/4/2012 9:05:25 AM
Oh. It's just this asshole again. Is he gunning for a spot for fundie of the year or something?
3/4/2012 9:12:07 AM
> Atheism is perhaps similar to anarchism.
With apologies to G.K. Chesterton (especially since the book was a Christian allegory):
"Mere unbelievers! So you talk about atheists and pagans as if they were the question. You've got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the Godless. Why should it? The unbelievers have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The people of diverse opinions really have a stake in the country. The man pushing single faith hasn't; he can go away to convert other countries by sword. The tolerant have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the narrow-minded have always objected to being governed at all. Theocrats were always anarchists, as you can see from the Crusades."
3/4/2012 9:38:11 AM
Of course, not every devout Jew is a foaming rabid jackass with a mouth full of weasel words ... But "perhaps" this guy is. Qualified hate speech is still hate speech. You have become your own worst nightmare.
3/4/2012 9:38:22 AM
The vast numbers of mass murders have been done by "believers" in the name of "Gahd". The Fifteenth Century alone so scores of thousands killed by Vlad the Impaler, over a million by the Inquisition, and by the end of that century, the beginning of the same in the Americas. That's just Western Christianity, folks (the Impaler converted thereto from Eastern Orthodoxy). The Eastern Church, Islam, and Old Testament Judaism all had similar blood on their hands, and G.W. Bush's frightening "Gog and Magog" letter makes it clear that religious bigotry played as important a part in his decision to murder a nation as greed. Hitler was not an atheist. He simply believed he, himself, was "Gahd", and was even establishing a church where he'd be worshipped. Atheists who believe all life and being are extinguished at physical death are in many cases a lot more discreet about dealing it out, and at least those who do don't go on to gloat over their victims burning forever and ever in Hell.
3/4/2012 9:44:21 AM
There are many examples of atheist and theist persons being murderers. You can't say that if atheism is widely accepted it will cause terible detruction. As atheism has never been widely accepted, you have no evidence to support that slur.
P.S. I resent your implying that decency in atheists stem from their theistic parents. That too is an unsupportable claim.
3/4/2012 9:44:38 AM
And actually, that flag looks interesting.
3/4/2012 9:45:48 AM
My parents were atheists, I was brought up with no religion, yes I'm one of the most moral people I know. It's called "being nice".
3/4/2012 9:46:05 AM
And then when you bring up all of the violence and slaughter perpetuated by Christianity over the centuries, they wave it away.
3/4/2012 10:02:55 AM
Neither is a theist, but you have islamic, zionist and Christian terrorism. And survivalist, for that matter.
3/4/2012 10:10:18 AM
Well that makes perfect sense, since we know from history that theists, as groups or as individuals,have never murdered anyone in the name of their religions.
3/4/2012 10:56:40 AM
Creedence Leonore Gielgud
Is that kind of like how Jews drink baby blood, poison wells, and profane the Eucharist? You folks do do that right? It's not just a bunch of bullshit pulled out of someone's ass to dehumanize you, or anything, right?
3/4/2012 10:58:06 AM
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