Quote# 86313

(On the thread they are talking about proof for Flood, and AV brings up the cliffs of Dover as proof of the Flood. Basicly God stacked all the chalk there after the Flood. When people point that there are fossils there also he responds with this.)

WOW -- you can't see the forest for the trees, can you?

Please set your college books aside and try and formulate a mental picture of what I'm saying here.

The Flood waters are GONE -- sharks, whales, people, seaweed, coccoliths, etc. and so forth are stretched from one end of Pangaea (China?) to the other (New Jersey?) and everywhere in-between.

Lying in [what is now] China, the Sahara Desert, Nebraska, Mt. Ararat, Mexico, etc. -- not to mention in the oceans, themselves.

Walk 10 feet and there's a T. Rex carcass, walk another 10 feet and there's a shark, walk another 10 feet and there's a man...

Now, God comes along and "sweeps" up the coccoliths from one end of this supercontinent to the other and stockpiles them in Dover.

AV1611VET, Christianforums 39 Comments [3/6/2012 4:19:35 AM]
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Stop infecting my country with your stupid, we don't want it. The cliffs of Dover are not a stockpile of flood debris, they're chalky cliffs.

Also, why specifically Nebraska and Mt. Ararat? Are they not in the middle of greater landmasses? Or did god just pick them up and dump them in the middle of the US and Turkey after the flood?

3/6/2012 4:36:19 AM

AV1611VET! We missed you!

3/6/2012 4:39:41 AM


So...where are the fossilized human remains in the Dover cliffs?

You know, from all the people who were supposed to have died in your Flood?

Or did God decide to hide those too?

3/6/2012 5:06:59 AM


So where did he stack the sharks?

3/6/2012 5:13:46 AM

D Laurier

So why do we never find tyranosaur bones in the Dover chalk?
Why are there no human fossils in the Dover chalk?
Why do the cliffs at Dover how seasonal layering?

3/6/2012 5:22:19 AM

Philbert McAdamia

Now, God comes along and "sweeps" up the coccoliths from one end of this supercontinent to the other and stockpiles them in Dover.

God - Earth's janitor. God spilleth, and God cleaneth it up.

3/6/2012 5:41:11 AM


I dunno why creationists - even ones much more intelligent than AV - bother with all this Flood Geology bullshit. Why don't they just say 'God did it by a miracle' and leave it at that?

3/6/2012 5:41:23 AM

Mister Spak

So there are human fossils in the Dover cliffs?

That mental picture I formulated made me ROF and LMAO.

3/6/2012 5:56:32 AM


Vote Republican, and this will pass for science.

3/6/2012 6:23:05 AM


Walk 10 feet and there's a T. Rex carcass, walk another 10 feet and there's a shark, walk another 10 feet and there's a man...

Right, but that's only looking at it from one dimension. Look from three dimensions and you see that the depth of the fossils are different and that's really the part that matters. A T-Rex may have died 10 feet from an ancient shark or a modern man but that's no more relevant than a skyscraper being built right on top of where a bank used to be after the Chicago fire.

3/6/2012 6:53:24 AM

Doubting Thomas

Wow, the level of willful stupidity is just simply amazing.

OK, where did all that water go?

3/6/2012 7:21:50 AM


From the Authorized Pull-It-Out-Of-Your-Butt Version of the Bible:

Gen. 8:14 And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried.

Gen. 8:15 And God spake unto Noah, saying,

Gen. 8:16 Go forth of the ark, thou, and thy wife, and thy sons, and thy sons' wives with thee while I sweep up all these coccoliths and stockpile them in Dover and Northern France; for the French shall need them to grow the wine of the sacrament."

3/6/2012 7:38:39 AM


But, Pangaea began to break up much earlier than 6000 yeas ago. Much, much much earlier; like 200 million years earlier.

How come there are fossils in other places than the Dover cliffs? How come they are layered from simple life-forms, to more complex life forms? If it was flooding that caused it, shouldn't the larger animals be in the bottom and the single-cell organisms at the top?

3/6/2012 8:10:16 AM


"you can't see the forest for the trees, can you?"

And you can't see the cliffs for the birds. How do you think they're white?! [/sarcasm]

"God comes along and "sweeps" up the coccoliths from one end of this supercontinent to the other and stockpiles them in Dover."

Yes, including the blue birds.

'however it was a vision that was not to be fulfilled, because bluebirds are not found in England, except in captivity.'

Just as your 'Intelligent Design' theory (and therefore Creationism) was shot to shit - like the Luftwaffe was during the Battle of Britain - in Kitzmiller vs. Dover, AV1611VET.

3/6/2012 8:19:27 AM


God's Mother: "Yaweh! I told you to clean up this mess! Now get all this water and dead animals out of here!"

God: "Yes, mother." (Sweeps all the fossils under the cliffs of Dover.)

God: "All done, Mom!"

3/6/2012 8:49:25 AM

This reminds me of what I've heard some ex-Mormon-fundies say they were taught as children to explain fossils: that in creating the earth, God took blobs of material from other planets and rolled it up like a snowball, so it just LOOKS like things lived here millions of years ago.

3/6/2012 9:05:46 AM

QC is laughing

This is my first comment here although I'm a fstdt addict. But this one was just too funny to stay silent!

long ago, religion used to dwell in the darkness of ignorance, giving explanation to thunder, diseases...

but now it seems the light of knowledge made bigots retreat for so long they feel they dont have a choice other than stepping in the sunlight, trying science to prove a particular belief system. VET is the perfect example for it, and reading him trying his best made my day, thanks!

3/6/2012 9:18:14 AM


It's AV1611VET. No bigger Creationist moron exists on the Internet (although an argument could be made for NephilimFree). This tard has no grasp of anything scientific, none. Anyone with a brain can destroy any of his arguments in seconds but it doesn't matter, he has all the intellectual capacity of a canned ham.

3/6/2012 10:08:23 AM

Living a short drive from the cliffs in question, I take this as almost a personal affront.

And a stockpuile would imply an intended use. What possible use did, or does, god have in mind for all those fossils? I do love the idea of him "tidying up" after his temper tantrum, sweeping things neatly into big piles.

3/6/2012 11:24:46 AM


And there's no record of any of this?

"Please set your college books aside and try and formulate a mental picture of what I'm saying here. "

Anti knowledge much?

3/6/2012 12:59:39 PM


formulate a mental picture of what I'm saying

Sorry, I'm too busy trying to get my mental picture of you out of my head.

3/6/2012 1:08:34 PM


I can imagine the image you want me to. The problem is what you're asking me to imagine is fictitious. There is no fossil bed on Earth that is like that.

3/6/2012 2:45:13 PM

Brendan Rizzo

You know, I wonder how creationists explain the fact that the original geologists, who disproved catastrophism, lived long before the theory of evolution, and had absolutely no motive to try to disprove God or the Bible.

For the last time, there is NO conspiracy by the scientific community to disprove God. The philosophy of science, which codified the scientific method in the seventeenth century, was created by people in order to have an objective way of arriving at the truth. All the earliest scientists did in fact believe in God, so they certainly did not see any conflict between the philosophy of science, which they had proven to work, and belief in God. Thus, there is no reason for anybody, religious or not, to reject the findings of science because science is indeed objective.

3/6/2012 2:50:21 PM


Ahhh AV1611VET, I have missed your style of stupid.

3/6/2012 4:33:28 PM

Old Viking

Please send more information about coccoliths.

3/6/2012 5:41:18 PM

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