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Do not misunderstand this, ladies and gentlemen, Democrats and liberals despise Judeo-Christian morality. They despise historic Christianity. The despise the truth claims of the Bible. They despise the truth claims of Jesus Christ. They despise the truth claims of the Judeo-Christian tradition and they will stand in its way any chance that they get.

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We cannot exist half-gay and half-straight, as a nation. We can't do it any more than we could exist half-slave and half-free, as Abraham Lincoln said. We cannot do it. We cannot endure half-gay and half-straight. We're going to have to make a choice between the two because liberty and the homosexual agenda cannot exist.

Bryan Fischer, Right Wing Watch 62 Comments [3/10/2012 7:40:52 AM]
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Oh, please. Why should I take advice from someone who substitutes the word "truth" for "true?" Besides, as it was said numerous times before on this website, your Bible has no monopoly on morality and neither does your religion.

3/10/2012 7:49:14 AM

Mudak

No, we just despise the contortions and twists people like you put the bible -- and life in general -- through.

3/10/2012 7:51:36 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

Oh no, people with non-overlapping sexualities can't possibly co-exist.</sarcasm>

3/10/2012 7:51:39 AM

gravematter

America existed "half-slave and half-free" for quite a while. Some people were slaves and some people were free. Why is it impossible for a country to contain both gay and straight people? Gayness isn't catching. Honestly, this is as stupid as saying we can't exist half-male and half-female. And a lot of people are still waiting with bated breath to see a copy of this "gay agenda" that apparently exists somewhere in the depths of Tea Party HQ.

3/10/2012 7:55:39 AM

Doubting Thomas

You're absolutely right. We can't exist with a nation in which gay people are allowed to marry in only a handful of states. Therefore we should make it legal everywhere in the country.

3/10/2012 7:56:35 AM

pete

Massachusetts was the first state to approve gay marriage. They also have the lowest divorce rate in the country.

3/10/2012 8:01:08 AM

Fawful has seen God has a vagina on top of his penis

"The despise the truth claims of the Bible. They despise the truth claims of Jesus Christ. They despise the truth claims of the Judeo-Christian tradition and they will stand in its way any chance that they get".

What truth?

3/10/2012 8:23:28 AM

rubber chicken

Just once, I would like neo-facist nutjobs like Bryan here to explain, in simple terms, how, exactly, the sexuality of other people can possibly impact on their own lives, never mind on whole econo-political entities.

My personal belief is that Bryan is simply incredibly envious of the fact that other men can suck cock and he can't.

3/10/2012 8:31:56 AM

Reynardine

How the flock did I know this was Brian Fischer before I looked?... Maybe he can't exist half-gay and half- straight. That's not our nation's problem, though.

3/10/2012 8:35:54 AM

checkmate

Democrats and liberals despise Judeo-Christian morality. They despise historic Christianity.

Well, if you mean your type of Taliban Christianity, then yes you're probably right.

On the other hand I know a good number of pious, church going democrats and liberals who love christianity for the love, tolerance, compassion, charity, and forgiving it teaches.

All you want from christianity is hate, bigotry, intolerance, judgement, and vengence.

Yes, democrats and liberals might tend to despise that.

3/10/2012 8:45:48 AM

shykid

Well, I do strongly oppose your plans to turn the US into Christian Saudi Arabia. But I fail to see why that is a bad thing.

"We cannot exist half-gay and half-straight, as a nation."

You're actually right hereā€”but it's not why you think you are. There just aren't enough gay people to sustain that ratio.

3/10/2012 9:12:15 AM

Flah

"We cannot exist half-gay and half-straight, as a nation."

Clearly, what Bryan is saying is that the US is bi-curious.

But, seriously... Is the act of questioning something really the same as despising it? When, for instance, a theoretical physicist makes note of some logical hole in M-Theory, does that automatically mean that they want the accumulated research in String Theory put onto a bonfire?

Bryan needs to realize that, when someone questions one of your core beliefs, it can be used to strengthen your arguments by calmly and logically giving an answer. Mind you, this presupposes that you have the ability to make a logical argument, which this quote itself puts into question. Perhaps Bryan can start with that and work his way up to the other things that we apparently despise.

3/10/2012 9:29:51 AM

Fundies Make Me Sick

Bryan Fischer, fuck you. That is all.

3/10/2012 9:31:14 AM

Filin De Blanc

America can't be truly free unless it oppresses 10% of its population.

3/10/2012 9:31:51 AM

tranz2deep

Bryan. Bryan.

Let me explain something about The Colbert Report that has obviously slipped right by you.

"Truthiness" is *lying*.

"Truth claims" are lies!

You just TOLD us that liberals despise the lies of the Bible, of Jesus Christ, and of the Judeo-Christian tradition!

3/10/2012 9:48:08 AM

Berny

It's funny you should mention slavery since the "truth" of your Bible is fully in favour of it.
You really should read it sometimes, instead of whatever abridged version it is you're quoting.
Oh, and Jesus never said anything about gays. Nothing at all.

3/10/2012 9:49:59 AM

Fang

The smell of desperation is truly strong in a lot of the wingnut community. The racism, the sexism, all the tools they used to rile people up are going away, and folks are catching on to their B.S.

I think this campaign season is going to see many truly historic meltdowns politically. I also think we'll see wingnut politicians make truly insane promises and try to pass even more insane laws - and have no way to back down.

3/10/2012 10:00:25 AM



"liberty"

To protect liberty you are determined to destroy it... are you sure you know what the word means?

3/10/2012 10:11:44 AM

Thinking Allowed

I wonder if Bryan works on saturdays, wears poly-cotton shirts, and shrimp scampi?

3/10/2012 10:16:51 AM

Mayhem

Denying gays the right to marry is a lot closer to the half-slave and half-free part which you say that we can't exist as.

3/10/2012 10:18:26 AM

Alleyprowler

Democrats and liberals despise Judeo-Christian morality.

The morality that says you should stone your disobedient children to death and that genocide is okay if the voice in your head says so? Yes, I'm pretty much against that.

They despise historic Christianity.

Well, it was fairly gory. There's a reason why the Dark Ages got its name and reputation.

The despise the truth claims of the Bible.

The what? You mean the argument that the Bible is true because it says it's true? Yes, I have a problem with that.

They despise the truth claims of Jesus Christ.

Same as above. I also have a problem with the part about renouncing your family in order to follow him. That sounds a bit cultish if you ask me.

They despise the truth claims of the Judeo-Christian tradition and they will stand in its way any chance that they get.

I really don't mind if anyone wants to live by Judeo-Christian "truth claims"; that's none of my business. However, when you try to base government on those Bronze Age values and attempt to force the rest of us to live up to (or I should say, down to) them, that is the very antithesis of liberty. You go right ahead and don your hair shirt and flagellate yourself for having an impure thought, then. I'm still going to sleep in on Sunday.

3/10/2012 10:24:08 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Okay, Bryan Fischer, you have officially crossed the line. How DARE you drag Lincoln into this? If you had been alive in 1860, you would've voted for fucking Breckinridge! Unlike slavery, in which a whole subset of the population was deprived of its rights, gay people existing doesn't harm anyone.

Also, your entire first paragraph is despicable propaganda designed to scare white trash into voting against their own interests. It is only in America that you can have an audience, and I cannot believe that you do. Get out of my country, as you clearly hate America.

3/10/2012 10:36:43 AM

Mr America

So you want to get rid of liberty, one of the reasons the US was created in the first place? No liberty for anyone who isn't white straight and male? Want another Saudi Arabia like country? Fine!!!



I suggest to you though is die in a f***king fire. Have a nice day.

3/10/2012 10:42:00 AM

John

We're going to have to make a choice between the two because liberty and the homosexual agenda cannot exist.

We don't and they can. I couldn't give a cat's ass who somebody other than me and my wife is having sex with. You shouldn't either. You want "liberty"? Start by keeping your judgmental, holier-than-thou nose out of other peoples' business.

3/10/2012 10:46:39 AM



Riiight. We can't have liberty unless we deprive ten percent of the population of equal rights to every one else. Makes perfect sense.

That's kind of like saying we can't have liberty if we continue to allow left-handed people to write with their left hands.

3/10/2012 11:52:18 AM
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