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Before you can join the Laurens County Republican Party in South Carolina and get on the primary ballot, they ask that you pledge that you’ve never ever had pre-marital sex — and that you will never ever look at porn again.

Last Tuesday, the LCGOP unanimously adopted a resolution that would ask all candidates who want to get on the primary ballot to sign a pledge with 28 principles, because the party “does not want to associate with candidates who do not act and speak in a manner that is consistent with the SC Republican Party Platform.”

Among the principles, according to Vic MacDonald & Larry Franklin of the Clinton Chronicle, is standard fare like opposition to abortion and upholding gun rights, as well as “a compassionate and moral approach to Teen Pregnancy” and “a high regard for United States Sovereignty.”

But then they get even more specific. From the Chronicle:

You must favor, and live up to, abstinence before marriage.

You must be faithful to your spouse. Your spouse cannot be a person of the same gender, and you are not allowed to favor any government action that would allow for civil unions of people of the same sex.

You cannot now, from the moment you sign this pledge, look at pornography.

It is unclear how they will precisely determine this (or regulate it), but an unidentified potential candidate for office in Laurens County told the Chronicle that candidates will be interviewed by a three-person subcommittee, who will then recommend to the full executive committee whether to allow the candidate on the ballot.

Bobby Smith, who chairs the Laurens County Republican Party, explained that “people feel the platform has not been adhered to. We want candidates to believe in and uphold the party’s platform.”

Laurens County Republican Party, Talking Points Memo 75 Comments [3/10/2012 7:42:37 AM]
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Good luck getting candidates then...

3/10/2012 7:49:50 AM

So...it was okay to look at porn before then?

3/10/2012 7:51:48 AM

Doubting Thomas

You must be faithful to your spouse.

I guess that bastion of Christian morality Newt Gingrich is out, then.

3/10/2012 7:55:00 AM


That "big tent" gets smaller every day. I also wonder Newt "Serial Philanderer" Gingrich did in Laurens county.

3/10/2012 7:55:22 AM


Send in the liars...

3/10/2012 7:56:15 AM


You may not agree with this platform, but what's the big deal here exactly? Why are you shocked that a party expects its candidates to live up to its values - when they are competing to represent those very values in the white house?

3/10/2012 8:10:29 AM

J. James

Oh, the hypocrisy!

Teen pregnancy rates are highest in abstinence-only states like yours, jackass. And premarital sex is now something that your party platform is against?! Fuck you! Seriously, go eat dirt and die. We- the people- have been suffering under a shitty economy for YEARS now and all that YOU people who caused the problem in the first place have done is obstruct people trying to help and make matters worse.

And now you have the GALL to make THIS a higher priority? Oh, fuck you with a ten-foot pole, you pious prick.

3/10/2012 8:14:15 AM


I'm looking forward to their truly *clean* electoral slate.

3/10/2012 8:39:48 AM


*facepalm* Why do Americans do everything in such a complicated manner? I walk to the election place at the school, show them my ID and give the card they mailed me, they give a ballot and I fill it in the booth, have it stamped and drop it in the box.

And that's it. Nobody gives a shit who I vote for. Or what I do in the bedroom. (Which is good, because nothing happens, because I'm a computer geek - but that's beside the point.)

I can vote whoever seems to support the ideas I support. I can vote for them even if those candidates personally disapprove of me or anything I stand for. Hell, I even have the liberty of voting for someone I disagree with, in case I go mad in the head, because no one will check. Or I may be voting for no one. Or I may even not be voting at all.

It's the candidate's job to tell the voters "please vote for me". Not "I don't want your votes if you disagree with me, you jackasses".

3/10/2012 8:47:18 AM



Why is it that you cannot understand why people on here might consider the actions of the LCGOP a problem?

You comment often enough on these boards., so you must have some idea of what the general opinion of this sort of Republican social control is fundementalist and disagreeable.

3/10/2012 8:50:26 AM


We want candidates to believe in and uphold the party’s platform

Then I have to assume that hypocrisy is written into chapter one. If not, you won't have one candidate, or at least no candidate you'll be pleased with.

You cannot now, from the moment you sign this pledge, look at pornography.

I find it amusing that this part seems to assume that all potential candidates are pornography consumers who now have to stop.

I'm sure we can help out those Republicans with some more rules:

- Candidates must pledge never to associate or speak with any Catholics, Lutheran protestants, Jews, Muslims, Gays, Communists (= liberals) or other undesirables.

- Nobody who has ever visited a foreign country can become a candidate.

- While membership in the KKK is not mandatory, it certainly wouldn't hurt.

- Candidates are expected to be home schooled, speak and read only English, teach their own children at home, and restrict the curriculum to the only book worth using, the Bible.

- Any candidate who can correctly explain the theory of evolution, even if he doesn't agree with it, is unacceptable.


3/10/2012 8:51:37 AM


@His4Life, I have no problem with them saying what they want in a candidate. It has more to do with (1) how they could be sure of any candidate's statements and (2) the general fact that all politicians -- whether you generally agree with their platforms or not -- can and will say just about anything to get your vote.

Isn't a platform like this practically an invitation for someone like me -- a godless liberal who believes it's out and out a bad idea to save yourself for marriage -- to go in, intentionally mislead the committee, and try to get the nomination?

3/10/2012 9:10:44 AM

Philbert McAdamia

Nobody can prove I ever did it, and I promise not to do it again.

3/10/2012 9:24:38 AM

Filin De Blanc

"people feel the platform has not been adhered to."

At least they've noticed.

3/10/2012 9:26:18 AM


Well, if the SC Theopublicans want to drive away what few moderates still remain, far be it from me to discourage them... :P

3/10/2012 9:40:50 AM



You are such a follower.

The pledge means no such thing.
It merely says they have to pledge it.

It does, however, slip in language explicitly forbidding any and all support of gay marriage or even civil unions.

3/10/2012 9:42:52 AM


Have they been able to sign up any candidates?
Oh, wait...
My bad, of course they'll sign them up. Republicans are notorious for their double-standards and hypocrisy.

3/10/2012 9:51:51 AM

Thinking Allowed

Looks like Laurens County GOP will be loosing the elections this year too.

3/10/2012 10:15:00 AM


Frankly, I fail to see how this is such a big deal. Anyone who wants in on the party would feel the same way, at least in public, or else they'd be a Democrat or Libertarian or belong to some other party. They're just putting their standard agenda on paper, so now they just have some meaningless written words to go along with their meaningless verbal ones.

3/10/2012 10:16:03 AM

Brendan Rizzo

For a moment I thought this was a pledge that the nationwide Republican Party proposed. What politicians do with their sex lives, assuming that they aren't rapists or child molesters of course, has nothing to do with whether they are fit for office. Thoughtcrime, thoughtcrime. I'm still wondering how the hell they'd prove either of these pledges. As much as I don't like the Republicans, even they deserve evidential justice instead of denunciatory justice.

3/10/2012 10:19:58 AM


Didn't Gingrigh end up winning South Carolina? Yea, there is a shining golden nugget of irony.

3/10/2012 10:24:38 AM



Apart from the total absurdity and unrealistic objectives, in free societies people are responsible to their conscience, not this kind of detailed mandate.

Forcing people to swear to a strict code of conduct and thoughts is common in totalitarian regimes, not in democratic societies.

Yes, parties have platforms and charters, and one can vote for candidates based on what they do and say, but our society is based on the freedom of the individual and his conscience. What the Laurens County Republican Party is doing is basically thought police, a lot like Orwell's Big Brother in 1984.

That pledge is extremely un-american. Whatever happened to "this is a free country"?

If “people feel the platform has not been adhered to", then they should vote for different candidates. Forcing them to take pledges is a total disgrace for the USA. It's also an admission of failure for the Laurens County Republican Party. The very fact that they feel they have resort to this measure demonstrates what bad shape they must be in.

3/10/2012 10:38:52 AM


Expecting politicians to be genuine and not hypocritical is as futile as expecting a gay person to magically wake up straight one day due to ~prayer.

3/10/2012 10:45:56 AM

Filin De Blanc

These people really need to get over themselves. Sex is a natural, healthy part of life. I see nothing evil about it.

3/10/2012 10:52:40 AM


I don't have a problem with this. You wouldn't expect Jews to endorse a neo-Nazi candidate or PETA to endorse a bear hunter.

Of course, I have my doubts that any of their candidates will endorse what anyone else would call "a compassionate and moral approach to Teen Pregnancy", unless in the far-right world "compassionate and moral" means saying "good for you, you slut!"

3/10/2012 10:55:50 AM

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