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Anyone in the United States can participate in the institution of marriage – if they choose to do so.

Homosexuals don’t usually choose to do so because they usually don’t want to be married to members of the opposite sex. But it’s their choice.

So why do homosexual activists make this claim? And how do they get away with making a patently false charge against a 6,000-year-old religious institution and the civil laws that it inspired?

Same-sex marriage advocates no more care about the legality of same-sex marriage than Hamas cares about the creation of a Palestinian state.

Neither is interested in creating something new – something that has never been before. Instead, what same-sex marriage advocates and the terrorists of the Gaza Strip have in common is their desire to destroy something they find repulsive. In Gaza, it’s the Jewish state of Israel. Among homosexual activists, it’s the institution of marriage.

By making the bogus claim that marriage, as it has been known through the eons, is inherently unfair because some people don’t want to participate in it as it has always been defined, homosexual activists are able to establish for themselves what appears to be the political high ground of the victim. In exactly the same way, Arab terrorists are able to portray themselves as the victim by claiming they have been denied a state.

Joseph Farah, World Net Daily 37 Comments [3/14/2012 3:45:00 AM]
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Table Rock

What a crock of shit. First, marriage has been around long before the bible. The bible, you know that book that also allowed prostitution, polgamy, concubines, incest and rape.

And saying two people getting married is the same as bombings and murder is a bullshit straw man and a tactic of a complete asshole. ASSHOLE.

And your first point, saying that homosexuals can marry (members of the opposite sex) but choose not to?

From now on, you are only allowed to drive the same kind of car that I do. You can only drive a blue, 2011 Subaru Forester 2.5x Limited. What? You have the same rights as I do. You just choose not to and driving anything else would be granting you "special" rights. Sorry, I didn't get the built-in GPS. You probably would have liked that.

3/14/2012 4:04:35 AM

Bollox

So, why do gay folks get married, then? And just what is the Palestinian government doing, exactly? Surely, Joe, if what you say is true the neither gay marriages or the Palestinian government should exist. And yet they do. Funny, that.

3/14/2012 4:40:05 AM

Grimsoncrow

You dont actually believe any of that.You just say you do.

-See? I can do that too!

3/14/2012 4:40:46 AM

Arctic Knight

Preventing same sex marriage is unconstitutional under the equal protection clause. A woman has the right to marry a man, but a man is denied that very same right based solely on his gender. That is sexual discrimination.

3/14/2012 5:26:20 AM

Javascap

Anyone in the United States can participate in the economy – if they choose to do so.

N****** don’t usually choose to do so because they usually don’t want to work. But it’s their choice, and we make them.

So why do abolitionists oppose this system? And how do they get away with making a patently false charge against a 6,000-year-old religious institution and the civil laws that it inspired?

N***** advocates no more care about the legality of slavery than the Germans cares about the creation of a new state.

Neither is interested in creating something new – something that has never been before. Instead, what abolitionist advocates and the terrorists of Germany have in common is their desire to destroy something they find repulsive. In Gaza, it’s the German nation itself. Among abolitionists, it’s the institution of labor itself.

By making the bogus claim that slavery, as it has been known through the eons, is inherently unfair because some people don’t want to participate in it as it has always been defined, abolitionists are able to establish for themselves what appears to be the political high ground of the victim. In exactly the same way, German terrorists are able to portray themselves as the victim by claiming they have been denied a state.

See what I did there?

3/14/2012 5:37:41 AM

Mister Spak

Anyone in the United States can comply with Traditional American Values - if they choose to do so.

Conservatives don't ususally do so because they hate America. But it's their choice.

So why do conservative activists make this claim? And how do they get away with making patently false statements every time they open their yaps?

Conservative activists no more care about the legality of the constitution than Hamas cares about the creation of a Palestinian state.

Niether is interested in creating something new. - something that has never been seen before. Instead, what conservative advocates and the terrorists in Gaza strip have in common is their desire to destroy something they find repulsive. In Gaza, it's the Jewish state of Israel. Amoung conservative activists, it's Traditional American Values.

By making the bogus claim that preventing them from imposing their religion on everyone infringes on their freedom of religion, conservative activists are able to establish for themselves what appears to be the political high ground of the victim. In exactly the same way, Muslim terrorists are able to portray themselves as the victim by claiming they are not allowed to practice their religion.

3/14/2012 5:49:02 AM

dionysus

Your analogy is fucking retarded. Nobody is trying to take your marriage from you, idiot. Unlike the land of Israel, marriage is not a finite resource to be rationed. It's a concept, moron. Two gay men (that you probably don't even know) getting married does not affect your marriage in any way.

3/14/2012 5:55:05 AM



Ok giving that the rest of your post is a crock of shit. Your religion is not 6,000 years old. Judaism isn't even 6,000 years old.

3/14/2012 6:08:42 AM

Doubting Thomas

More "they want to destroy marriage by taking part in it" blather. Kind of like how they wanted to destroy the military by serving in it, and destroying society by not staying in the closet.

3/14/2012 6:42:19 AM

Orion

Haha! I will destroy something by taking part in it and endorsing it!

3/14/2012 6:49:18 AM



The only reasonn the state gets involved in marriages is to make sure that what is arguably the most important interpersonal relation you'll have in your life happens in a context of freedom, equality, and protection from abuse. These reasons hold true regardless of the genders involved. if your church doesn't want to recognise legal marriage, fine: the state shouldn't recognise religious marriage either.

3/14/2012 8:04:14 AM

Swede

The terrorists of the Gaza strip?!? They just want Israel to leave THEIR land, in accordance with UN rulings. Oh, well, one party's freedom fighters is another one's terrorists. They HAVE been denied a state. They were living there, more or less peacefully, then came the UN and said the Jews could have this piece of land, as they have no country of their own. What would you say if the UN came and said that the Romani can have Manhattan, as they have no country of their own. Wouldn't you fight to get that piece of land back? Then you're a terrorist, according to yourself.

Marriage laws have been changed numerous times during those eons, stupid. Just look at the patriarchs of the Bible and their SEVERAL wives. Homosexual people just want to be legally wed to the consenting adult that they are already living with. To me, that is no different than when my husband and I got married; we also wanted to legally wed the consenting adult we were already living with.

3/14/2012 8:16:44 AM

Osiris

Look here, do you know what happens to marriage when it no longer becomes a prerequisite for sex? It can actually be about establishing a long lasting relationship and be used as a codified commitment between two consenting adults. Gay people have shown they don't care about premarital sex, they want to get married to the person they love for the same reason you do. Basically what I'm saying is that society has advanced to the point where marriage means something more than a reproduction contract.

You know I bet Palestinians find the idea of Israel replusive. That's because prior to 1948 it was their country before some assholes from Europe said they couldn't live there any more because the Jews have a bunch of myths that said that over 2,000 years ago they were living there. Of course in those myths too the Jews didn't originally live there and had to wage a war of total genocide to claim it, even going so far as the smash babies on rocks.

3/14/2012 8:33:30 AM

JB Mason

The fact that this dumbfuck doesn't even know it was Palestine before '48 pretty much invalidates any analogy he wants to draw there...

WILLFUL IGNORANCE IS A SIN.

3/14/2012 8:42:39 AM

Sentry Gun

You're so wrong about everything I'm surprised your body is still able to metabolize food the right way.

3/14/2012 8:59:39 AM

pete

Massachusetts was the first state in the Union to allow same sex marriages. They also have the lowest divorce rate in the Union. Are these two facts related? I don't know but they do seem to refute the claim that same sex marriage is a threat to heterosexual marriage.

3/14/2012 9:05:35 AM

cdcdrr

Same-sex marriage advocates no more care about the legality of same-sex marriage than Hamas cares about the creation of a Palestinian state.

Wow, that tangent didn't just come completely out of nowhere, it also demolished your own arguement. You must have came like a steer from that two-for-one wankfest.

3/14/2012 9:10:44 AM

nazani14

There was a state called Palestine beginning in 1917. Jews started moving there in large numbers in the 1880s. I think they should have gone after a different parcel of land, but hey, religion pays a role in many bad decisions.

3/14/2012 9:25:51 AM

Reynardine

Reminds me of the argument some decades back that women had no excuse for being unmarried- they just had to be less fussy.

3/14/2012 9:46:51 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Farah's ancestor, circa 1954:

Anyone in the United States can participate in the institution of marriage – if they choose to do so.

Race-mixers don’t usually choose to do so because they usually don’t want to be married to members of their own race. But it’s their choice.

So why do miscegenation activists make this claim? And how do they get away with making a patently false charge against a 6,000-year-old religious institution and the civil laws that it inspired?

Interracial marriage advocates no more care about the legality of same-sex marriage than the Religious Right in America cares about the creation of a Jewish state*.

Neither is interested in creating something new – something that has never been before. Instead, what interracial marriage advocates and the theocrats of the ultra-Orthodox have in common is their desire to destroy something they find repulsive. In Israel, it’s the notion of diverse peoples living together in harmony. Among interracial activists, it’s the institution of marriage.

By making the bogus claim that marriage, as it has been known through the eons, is inherently unfair because some people don’t want to participate in it as it has always been defined, interracial activists are able to establish for themselves what appears to be the political high ground of the victim. In exactly the same way, Haredi theocrats are able to portray themselves as the victim by claiming they have been denied a state.

* Yes, I am having the 1950s-fundie be a card-carrying villain. Sue me.

3/14/2012 10:43:29 AM

D Laurier

Homophobic AND anti-semitic.

3/14/2012 11:43:16 AM

RiJayden

"Marriage" was originally a daughter-for-goods/noble status exchange. Is it then 'political high ground of the victim' that women said that they are NOT property and wish to marry the man of their choice, or not marry at all? If you say 'yes', then YOU are no better than the terrorists you claim us gays to be.

3/14/2012 12:09:19 PM

Sasha

So gays want to destroy marriage by getting married? How does that work?

3/14/2012 12:33:31 PM

TheJebusFire

[Homosexuals don’t usually choose to do so because they usually don’t want to be married to members of the opposite sex. But it’s their choice.]

And you can have any color model-T as long as it's black.

[And how do they get away with making a patently false charge against a 6,000-year-old religious institution and the civil laws that it inspired?]

I'm pretty certain marraige tranditions date further back than 6,000 years.

[Instead, what same-sex marriage advocates and the terrorists of the Gaza Strip have in common is their desire to destroy something they find repulsive.]

No, idiot. Gay adults just want to marry other gay adults. THATS IT. THATS ALL THEY FUCKING WANT! And what can gays do to marriage that straights haven't already done?

[By making the bogus claim that marriage, as it has been known through the eons, is inherently unfair because some people don’t want to participate in it as it has always been defined...]
"Always been defined?" Are you shitting me? Have you picked up a history book lately?




3/14/2012 2:58:34 PM



Not exactly new, being as old as sex itself!

3/14/2012 3:21:13 PM
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