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[savagesusie opposes women's suffrage.]

Voting does not give one power-—look at Russia and Chicago.

Oppression of women is relative-—Western Civilization has given women—esp. in colonial America a tremendous amount of power and rights. Look at the lives of Abigail Adams and most women of their time who selected their own husbands and had much power over men’s votes and thoughts and property. Total control of the education of the children, etc. The power of that is control of the future. Look at what Tocqueville said about the women in America.

To compare American women to men is stupid-—they are not the same and not equal in many ways. The Egalitarianism which tries to take away the humanity of both men and women and say they are interchangeable and should have the exact same ROLES in life and the family are extremely destructive—especially to the emotional development of children.

It is human NATURE that woman IS THE WEAKER SEX—that is why they have been “oppressed” by every single culture that ever existed. The weak always were oppressed whether women or MEN.

BTW, it is Christianity which gave dignity and worth to women-—IDEOLOGY-—which determines if a person has dignity and worth and “oppressed” women in the US were given much more respect in the early 20th century than after the 60’s-—where now women are routinely portrayed as meat and sluts and no one even bats an eye. They aren’t even able to care for their babies at home now with taxes and divorce rates and single parenting becoming the norm.

Women have stated in all women magazines how miserable they are-—and this is AFTER they got the vote. They write about how to be a sex slave in bed-——they are slaves to the lust of men (and women) and NOT oppressed anymore, huh-—when STD’s and abortions are the norm and they mutilate their bodies to get men’s attention for more than 10 minutes and fill their bodies with birth control pills-—toxins causing cancers, etc.

What is important in life was God—and with Him there was great happiness and fulfillment and love of children and family which gave women great happiness-—always did—even without the now worthless vote.

Giving the vote to women was stupid-—it got us Zero. I know way too many stupid women who never read anything but romance novels and would vote for Zero any time. They are useful idiots when it comes to voting for whatever the headlines in the newspapers want them to do. Men have always been much more responsible voters—especially if they were land owners. People should have to take a test to have the right to vote.

savagesusie, Free Republic 53 Comments [3/15/2012 3:28:52 AM]
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Danarth

Oh look, 'savagesusie' is a man, big shock there.


3/15/2012 3:36:47 AM

Aspergus

It's interesting how you complain about how women are being presented as a "piece of meat" for the hungry gaze of male viewers; and while I don't agree with women being portrayed in such a manner, either, your attempt to portray them as feeble-minded, unintelligent, and incapable of participating in the political process is no better. For every woman who fits the description you describe, there is another who is intelligent and politically adept and who does not wish to be condescendingly thought of as anything otherwise.

3/15/2012 4:03:33 AM

Nerikull

"Voting does not give one power-—look at Russia and Chicago. "

As a life-long Chicagoan, I really can't link the two.

Ugh, I think another irony meter just broke.

3/15/2012 4:16:36 AM

RayO-ElGatubelo

How money are you willing to bet that savagesusie here (if she isn't a man) will hypocritically hit the voting booths this year?

3/15/2012 5:01:13 AM

Brendan Rizzo

In that case, Susie must oppose ALL women in politics. That includes Bachmann, Palin, and Phyllis Schlafly. I will hold Susie to this.

Just out of curiosity, is there such extreme misogyny in the mainstream outside America? Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I've seen of Western Europe implies that sexism has gone the way of the dodo there; not that there aren't sexists, but they have as little support as the hardcore nationalists. Of course, this could just be due to a certain person on here (not naming names) shilling how great her country is.

3/15/2012 5:23:20 AM

Bollox

I see Susie wants to take the US back to the 18th century. How about we wind the clock back to, oooh, I dunno, 1775?

3/15/2012 5:35:51 AM



IDEOLOGY-—which determines if a person has dignity and worth and “oppressed” women

I'm reminded of the phrase: "One is only as free or oppresses as one allows himself or herself to be."

3/15/2012 5:40:25 AM

Mister SPak

"People should have to take a test to have the right to vote."

You would get a Zero on this test.

3/15/2012 5:48:09 AM

dionysus

Let me just make this much clear: some men are douchebags and treat women like objects and I despise them for it. That being said, this is nothing new and the Bible treats them WAY worse: as property. I'd MUCH rather be considered a slut than an item that a man can own or a father can sell. As much as I dislike it when women get plastic surgery and starve themselves to "look better" (not according to me they don't, they just look fake and/or malnourished), this is a choice they are able to make. You oppress them and take away their rights and they no longer even have a choice. I don't know how you got the psychotic idea that women are better off oppressed than free but this idea needs to go the way of alchemy.

fill their bodies with birth control pills-—toxins causing cancers, etc.

That's a fucking lie, liar. In fact, birth control pills help women regulate their periods, lessen menstrual cramps, and avoid ovarian cysts.

3/15/2012 5:55:40 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

"... People should have to take a test to have the right to vote."

No worries. Test subjects will pass, so long as they're fanatic, right-wing, christian, white and male — just like "savagesusie."

3/15/2012 6:00:15 AM

Reynardine

Well, Susie, you can go ahead and be inferior if you want to, and it's clear you want to.

3/15/2012 6:17:48 AM

Doubting Thomas

I will probably never understand the self-loathing women out there who willingly submit to a misogynistic religion and believe that they shouldn't have minds of their own. There can't be that many doormats out there, could there? These women set sexual equality back at least 50 years, if not 100. And the idea that male landowners should only be allowed to vote sets our country back 200 years.

I'll never understand why so many people want to willingly give up their freedom.

3/15/2012 6:22:18 AM

Sentry Gun

On the other hand, you, strong christian male believer, know what to with your vote, and will endorse anybody who is male, christian, white, and a strong believer, no matter what he can say, do, in the present, the past or the future.

Sounds much better !

3/15/2012 6:29:12 AM

Anon

Basic voting truth: Women vote more often and in greater numbers and tend to vote Democrat.

3/15/2012 6:29:29 AM

Big Jilm

Hey fuck helmet, thank you for continuing to push the women votes away from your taliban. At this rate, you'll be one of the only females voting GOP.

Why don't you just forfeit the election right now while you're at it.

You and your Napoleon-dick complex allies have alienated almost everyone at this point.

3/15/2012 7:33:54 AM

Orion

Why Landowners? Landowners are the parasitic class in a capitalist system and their exclusivity in the vote was a relic of the dying Feudal era (wherein Capitalists are the parasitic class).

If I'm following your train of thought correctly people who own capital (Factories, significant means of production and investment funds) should be the only ones allowed to vote.

Anyway, that's fun with economics.

"It is human NATURE that woman IS THE WEAKER SEX"

Because men are pre-naturally physically stronger on average and also don't lose at least 9 months of being a capable warrior in order to have children.

"Women have stated in all women magazines how miserable they are-—and this is AFTER they got the vote."

Could it be that life is hard and freedom does not always bring happiness when there are so many "wrong" choices that don't lead to our personal fulfilment? Could it be that the alienation of labour induces general malaise? Could it be that the dizzying array of information available to us crushes us under the weight of knowing so many wrongs we can not right? Could it be that dimensions of class, gender, age and racial oppression still weigh upon all of us?

Nah it's definitely not anything more profound than having the vote.

"Giving the vote to women was stupid-—it got us Zero."

It also got you Reagan and two different Bush's.

3/15/2012 7:37:50 AM

Often Partisan

"Men have always been much more responsible voters—especially if they were land owners."

Nice little bit of classism there Susie.

As a prole? go fuck yourself.

3/15/2012 7:46:10 AM

J. James

I don't think anyone would oppose removing YOUR personal suffrage, savagesuzie.

3/15/2012 8:09:25 AM

Hertzyscowicz

You see, here's the wonderful thing about freedom; nobody makes you use it.

Don't want women to vote? Don't vote.
Don't want women in politics? Stay out of politics.
Don't want to get a job? Stay at home.

Sure, those choices will result in not voting, not holding a public office and not having a job, but that's what you chose.

3/15/2012 8:30:05 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

I'm now 90% sure that savagesusie is a man.

3/15/2012 9:49:27 AM

D Laurier

So I gather that savagesusie thinks that oppression is a good thing.


What the fuck is "Zero"? I know it isnt the number.

3/15/2012 9:54:10 AM

rw23

If you don't appreciate your right to vote and to have control over your own life, then get back in the kitchen and bedroom where you belong.

3/15/2012 10:57:42 AM

Beccs

The cry of the self loathing woman, "I'm miserable and I don't have the freedoms others have because of my religious beliefs. Therefore all women are miserable."

3/15/2012 11:07:07 AM

Beccs

DP

3/15/2012 11:17:22 AM

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@D Laurier: i think idiot meant to say "obama".

did i say idiot referring to savagesusie? i meant piece of garbage

3/15/2012 11:35:10 AM
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