I've seen the commercials. I do not think you are really seeing what you think you are seeing.
This smacks of the whole "Backmasking" thing in the 80's.
3/16/2012 4:09:52 AM
Isn't the number of the beast 616, not 666?
3/16/2012 1:39:55 PM
You have too much free time and not enough medication.
3/16/2012 1:47:44 PM
Creedence Leonore Gielgud
Originally it was, but something as minor as piss-poor translation has never stopped the fundies yet.
It is interesting to note that in Kabalah numerology both 616 and 666 can be used to represent Nero, whom Revelations was likely talking about. Then again numerology is such a vague crock of shit that pretty much any number can be used to represent anyone, or anything, if you want it to bad enough.
3/16/2012 1:51:12 PM
@Creedence Leonore Gielgud
Thank you so much for clearing that up for me!
3/16/2012 1:54:21 PM
You really should read Revelation. I don't think it says that at all.
3/16/2012 1:59:22 PM
Just offer that crackpot 666 million dollars and see how long he opposes the "mark of the beast".
About 0.666 seconds?
3/16/2012 2:40:17 PM
Reading this makes me want to shop at JCPennys more.
3/16/2012 3:18:39 PM
Isn't numerology a sin? Why are you using it to support your arguments then?
3/16/2012 3:57:15 PM
And it's 6 hours, 6 minutes, and 6 seconds twice a day! Every day! We're going straight to H.!
3/16/2012 4:02:47 PM
Your right, there is 2 signs with 3 6's in the ad. You know what the means?
3/16/2012 4:18:26 PM
Hold on... hold on...
I actually agree with Fundy mcCrazypants on this one.
I'm willing to bet that those signs are 'Satanic symbolism' and totally deliberate. And that the people who made the ads placed them there as a humorous semi-subliminal suggestion that the competitor's stores and/or door-crasher sales are bad and evil.
Because advertisers do this ALL THE TIME.
3/16/2012 4:36:51 PM
Actually, in the earliest manuscripts, including P115 which is the oldest manuscript of Revelations that we have, the number is 616.
So much for inerrancy.
3/16/2012 5:30:30 PM
Yeah, there is a sale sign with three sixes on it.
Funny, I never would have noticed it or even thought about it until you pointed it out.
And now, I'm not going to think about it again, because it's fucking stupid.
3/16/2012 5:53:27 PM
"will install a new system of commerce where all buying and selling is controlled by a “mark” in the right hand [...] of every person "
dude, it's called a credit card... and it's been here since the last century... sheesh, calm down.
by the way, it's the left hand that's evil to you righties, although seeing your persecution complex, i'm guessing i know which hand is dirtier...
3/16/2012 8:29:28 PM
Quick! I think there are a few more straws here I can grasp onto.
3/16/2012 11:12:01 PM
Look -- there's nothing to these numbers at all. I've said that six times in the last six hours in six different ways -- I hope you get it now.
3/17/2012 12:01:31 AM
I rather hope JC Penny did make the advert he describes, just to fuck with nutters like him.
3/17/2012 12:08:27 AM
Derp... and they keep talking about this "6 o'clock sale", too. It's almost like they want you to remember it's a sale that starts at 6. I'm sure they start it at 6 and want you to remember 6 for some nefarious magical reason. Otherwise, why keep mentioning 6?
[for non-mental people- the ad really does have several signs with prominent 6's ,but there's a reason http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRwki8jOAB0]
3/17/2012 12:08:55 AM
Before JC Penney took on Ellen DeGeneres I had barely heard of the chain. Now I would definitely try to visit a JC Penney store if and when I get to the US. I don't think I'm the only European who thinks like this.
If you don't like symbolism and implanted images and ideas, you should not watch any ads whatsoever, stupid.
3/17/2012 12:39:17 AM
I just read the very first line giving what this post was about and did a massive eyeroll. I should have known that this was coming, and I'm not surprised in the least that someone made the connection. It was bad enough they had to spout all their homophobic nonsense about Ellen and JC Penney, now they have to literally demonize them.
And frankly, what makes these idiot Christian knuckle-draggers think that even if a major corporation had Satanic ties that they'd want to advertise it? With an 80% majority of Christians in this country, not to mention that even non-Christians wouldn't shop at a business that openly supported Satanism, it would be incredibly stupid for any business to put Satanic imagery in their commercials.
*edit* Just watched the commercial and Duh! They're talking about sales starting at 6 AM, so that's what the 6's were all about. Leave it to fundies to make something Satanic out of it.
3/17/2012 8:20:56 AM
At a company I used to work at, we once had a customer who refused to call the Returns line because it had 666 in it.
3/17/2012 8:33:43 AM
Hooray for Satanic lesbians! Boo for Fundie chuckleheads.
3/17/2012 9:48:28 AM
3/17/2012 10:36:02 AM
In another ad, Ellen contemplates buying something for $9.99. You know what that is upside-down? 666! That can mean only one thing! ELLEN DEGENERES IS THE ANTI-CHRIST!!!!! Isn't it obvious? The anti-Christ is everything that's the opposite of Jesus, so naturally the anti-Christ would be a lesbian!
3/17/2012 12:56:19 PM