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My question is, to the gay community, how did you come into the world in the first place? There’s only one way, through the physical union of a man and a woman and in most cases a married man and a woman, your father and mother. So I want to say to the gay community, why are you so heterophobic? Why are you discriminating against the unborn children who will never see the light of day if you revise the historical, moral and legal view of traditional marriage. Why are you so condemning of me because I’m a married man to a woman of the opposite sex and to me that’s the height of bigotry. So I say to the gay community, you’re being quite malicious towards me, a married heterosexual man who believes in traditional marriage values, and you’re prejudiced and hateful towards my right to be committed to the principle of family and marriage.

Aaron Fruh, Right Wing Watch 63 Comments [3/18/2012 4:25:23 AM]
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Aspergus

Part 1

My question is, to the gay community, how did you come into the world in the first place? There’s only one way, through the physical union of a man and a woman and in most cases a married man and a woman, your father and mother.

So? I appreciate my parents for having brought me into this world, but that doesn't mean I have to do exactly what they did. Do you also condemn people who choose not to have children for those same reasons?

So I want to say to the gay community, why are you so heterophobic?

You must not know many actual gay people if you honestly believe that we're all heterophobic.

Why are you discriminating against the unborn children who will never see the light of day if you revise the historical, moral and legal view of traditional marriage.

I don't care about unborn children, because they don't even exist yet! But that's beside the point. I think that no matter what family structure a child is brought up in, as long as he or she is loved and properly cared for, that's all that matters. And yet you seem to have no problem discriminating against such families all because of your narrow ideals of what a family ought to look like. I understand this is one of your kind's particular buzzwords, but why are you so anti-family?


3/18/2012 4:50:21 AM

Aspergus

Part 2

Why are you so condemning of me because I’m a married man to a woman of the opposite sex...

You're clearly just making up shit to make yourself feel oppressed. The mainstream LGBT community would not comdemn you just because you are married to the opposite sex; unlike you, who would condemn us for loving the same sex.

...you’re being quite malicious towards me, a married heterosexual man who believes in traditional marriage values...

Actually, you're the one being malicious toward us and our families.

...you’re prejudiced and hateful towards my right to be committed to the principle of family and marriage.

The only principles you seem to stand for are stomping upon families that don't conform to your narrow-minded ideals and on the rights of people who just want to live their lives in peace as well as enjoy the same rights you have. Thank you, and good day!

3/18/2012 4:51:33 AM

Percy Q. Shunn


3/18/2012 5:05:12 AM

Zadic

Do you have sex as much as your body will allow with as woman as you can find and have you been doing this since the onset of puberty? Think of all the children that could have been born if you didn't restrict yourself to sex within a monogamous marriage.

3/18/2012 5:09:40 AM

Mudak

How is it discrimination to not want to fuck a particular person?

I, as a straight man, have been turned down for sex by countless women. Is that discrimination by the same standards?

3/18/2012 5:10:09 AM

Agahnim

Seriously? And what's an unborn child? Children are have already been born. They aren't children before they're born.

Also, stop calling people bigots back when you get called a bigot. It makes you look like a dumbasshole (my own word; feel free to use it).

3/18/2012 5:16:41 AM

Firewing

You seem to make the typical mistake of the undeservedly privileged, that catering to anyone other than you is an offense against you. Marriage equality is happening, Fruh. Get over it. Your overactive sense of entitlement is why people other than your cult have utter disdain for you.

Furthermore, why is it that people who bring up the "think of the children!" put special emphasis in the unborn, while not even caring about the children who ARE born, possibly even condemning them? Get your priorities straight, Fruh!

3/18/2012 5:43:08 AM

OscarApollo

@Mudak This is unrelated but there are plenty of MRAs would tell you it is. =P

3/18/2012 6:14:18 AM

Atheissimo

'and you’re prejudiced and hateful towards my right to be committed to the principle of family and marriage'

You can be as committed to family and marriage as you like. Marry the second you become of legal age and turn out a child every 18 months for the rest of your life if you like.

Nobody is trying to stop you from doing that.

All that is happening is that gay people are trying to extend that right to everybody, not just straight people.

Tell me, when they gave the vote to women, did it ruin the sanctity of democracy and prevent men from voting? So why should equal marriage have that effect?

3/18/2012 6:28:21 AM

LDM

Don't flatter yourself. Most gay people don't give a shit who you marry. So why not return the courtesy? Not every person has to reproduce you know (oh and for those gays who do, there is a little thing called artificial insemination), with the world population capping at 7 bil recently, I think it's safe to say there's enough people to go around.

3/18/2012 6:34:49 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Someone please tell Fruh that this same illogic condemns celibacy too, so he had better start opposing Catholic priests.

3/18/2012 7:00:49 AM

John

Here's a lesson in life: if you punch somebody in the nose, expect to be punched back. You should have learned that in kindergarten.

Gays don't condemn people for being heterosexual - they condemn people for being bigoted against gays. If you want "to be committed to the principle of family and marriage", which, if you're honest, is really just your coded way of saying "I support unequal treatment of homosexuals", then you can't be surprised if you piss homosexuals off.

3/18/2012 7:19:48 AM

Matante

You're not condemned for what you do with your sex, you're condemned for what you do with your mouth.

3/18/2012 7:29:31 AM

Fundies Make Me Sick

"So I want to say to the gay community, why are you so heterophobic?"

They're not. Wanting to marry a member of the same sex isn't the same as discriminating against heterosexual marriage.

"Why are you discriminating against the unborn children who will never see the light of day if you revise the historical, moral and legal view of traditional marriage?"

They're not. Gay marriage has no impact on the ability of straight couples to have children.

"Why are you so condemning of me because I’m a married man to a woman of the opposite sex?"

They're not because gay people marrying has no effect on straight people being able to marry.

"To me that’s the height of bigotry."

You're wrong as there's no bigotry involved.

"So I say to the gay community, you’re being quite malicious towards me, a married heterosexual man who believes in traditional marriage values, and you’re prejudiced and hateful towards my right to be committed to the principle of family and marriage."

You're wrong again for the reasons stated above. Stop being a bigot Aaron.

3/18/2012 7:37:28 AM

Berny

"Why are you discriminating against the unborn children who will never see the light of day if you revise the historical, moral and legal view of traditional marriage."

You are aware that thousands of heterosexual couples get married every year that have absolutely no plans to have children. Right? I know of three in my immediate circle of friends. Is their marriage worthless? Does it make a mockery of your marriage?
You're playing the persecution card and failing badly at logic.

3/18/2012 7:59:12 AM



when has any gay suggested hetero couples lose the right to marriage ?



3/18/2012 8:25:38 AM

pete

If he's married to "a woman of the opposite sex"; isn't he married to a man?

3/18/2012 8:31:23 AM

JSS

{My question is, to the gay community, how did you come into the world in the first place? There’s only one way, through the physical union of a man and a woman and in most cases a married man and a woman, your father and mother.}

So, seeing as how sexual orientation is innate, heterosexuals must be responsible for the production of these 'evil' homosexuals.

{So I want to say to the gay community, why are you so heterophobic?}

First of all, I'd like to point out that I copied your sentence on here using Firefox, and 'heterophobic' is red tagged.

Secondly, the better question is: Why are you so adamant on generalizing, let alone demonizing a certain group of people based upon whom they love?

{Why are you discriminating against the unborn children who will never see the light of day if you revise the historical, moral and legal view of traditional marriage.}

So anyone who doesn't have children, or doesn't fulfill their full potential of children is a murderer now? I'm not going to even go into the fallacy of this one.

{Why are you so condemning of me because I’m a married man to a woman of the opposite sex and to me that’s the height of bigotry.}

Why do you insist on making up lies through rhetorical questions?

{So I say to the gay community, you’re being quite malicious towards me, a married heterosexual man who believes in traditional marriage values, and you’re prejudiced and hateful towards my right to be committed to the principle of family and marriage."

I say to you: You've sure spent some time developing that persecution complex of yours if you believe that gays hate you simply for being a married straight man. If anything, they dislike the idea that you seek to have your bigotry against them promoted through law, and hiding behind buzzwords like 'family' and 'traditional values' to demonize them in the worst ways.

3/18/2012 8:48:26 AM

Lotus-Thing

Me being able to marry the woman I love does not stop other women from getting down and dirty with men. No one is cockblocking you for being straight, Aaron. They might be grumpy that you keep insisting on acting like an asshole, though.

Also, if the birthrate did drop it would be a fucking miracle. We have too many people on this mudball as it is.

3/18/2012 8:49:24 AM



My question to unmarried, sterile, celibate, monks(to name a few), how did you come to the world in the first place?

3/18/2012 9:09:31 AM

Thinking Allowed

I’m a married man to a woman of the opposite sex

Um... grammatically speaking, that makes you married to a man.

As for the rest of the diatribe, you really should take a look in the mirror at who the bigot is.

3/18/2012 10:01:30 AM

Lady Evil

So...we go from whining about the unborn to whining about the unconceived. Look, we're not going to all die off just because a few people decide not to have kids!

More whining about being oppressed. "Boo-hoo! You're taking away my right to be a hateful bigot!" Martyr complex much?

3/18/2012 10:21:49 AM

Not Today

Really... discriminating against unborn children.

>> I’m a married man to a woman of the opposite sex and to me

There's more to that statement, I just can't quite figure it out yet.


3/18/2012 10:37:24 AM

Cool Guy

You've never spoken to a gay person in your life, have you?

3/18/2012 10:46:09 AM

John

Why are you discriminating against the unborn children who will never see the light of day

Yeah. Why don't you women stop having periods and discarding perfectly viable eggs? Just think. If we were all like the Duggars, we could have another 15 billion kids on the planet.

3/18/2012 10:59:15 AM
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