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Since blacks did not discover, explore, develop, invent, or do much of anything to build this country, the discussion should be about black privilege and why the white race has been so foolish as to allow negroes to become citizens, vote, and hold public office in our country.

richyrichard, Stormfront 52 Comments [3/23/2012 3:59:39 AM]
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Rommon

List of African-American inventors and scientists

And add to that, the wealth of white slave owners, Richie (pun intended).


3/23/2012 4:35:45 AM

Bollox

I hear a lot of black folk built the railroads ... I saw it in Blazing Saddles.

3/23/2012 4:59:07 AM

Rob aka Mediancat

"our" country?

I've got a few dozen Native American tribes who'd like a word with you.

3/23/2012 5:05:52 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Since rednecks did not discover, explore, develop, invent, or do much of anything to build this country, the discussion should be about redneck privelege and why intelligent Americans have been so foolish as to allow rednecks and fundamentalists to disproportionately influence the politics of this country.

Fixed it for you.

3/23/2012 5:21:40 AM

D Laurier

Ignorance of history.

3/23/2012 5:32:57 AM

LDM

George Washington Carver and Eli Whitney would like a word with you.

3/23/2012 5:33:20 AM

Doubting Thomas

Um, without slavery the South would have remained a poor shithole, even more than it is now. All that free labor built up the South to the point where it was able to wage a war against the North.

3/23/2012 6:50:13 AM

Greater Good

An African-American man invented peanut butter. Your argument is already invalid. Shall I go into the black philosophers, writers, and Manhattan Project scientists?

To borrow a phrase from Anon-e-moose, your argument has been blasted from the space-time continuum.

3/23/2012 7:18:36 AM

Stormageddon

Jazz... you lose, asshole.

3/23/2012 9:19:56 AM

Anon

Barack Obama.

Your Arugment Is Invalid.

If you are so deluded as to say that the POTUS doesn't count, consider the man who made blood banks and plasma possible:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Drew

Your Argument Is Invalid.

3/23/2012 9:26:37 AM

Matante

Time to play Internet therapist!
You failed at life and want to believe "at least being white makes me better than THESE guys!"
That was easy!


I'm gonna take a guess and say you're young. There's still time. Drop the attitude, learn, grow. You may accomplish something to be proud of one of these days, and never need to bury your shame in prejudice again. Now delete that Stormfront account and get out of that basement. Now.

3/23/2012 9:48:23 AM

Passerby

(Just copied and pasted a rebuttal to YT when he went spewing the same shit from his ass/mouth hybrid orifice, but still quite relevant.)

Taking all of an hour to research (might be sloppy as a result) I discovered several inventors that might make the world want to punch you in the face for that crack. And pretty much everything else you say on the average day.

George Edward Alcorn Jr. - Rocket scientist. Co-developed the radio frequency mass spectrometor amongst other spectral imaging devices.

Benjamin Banneker - Responsible for the Farmer's Almanac. If you're a farmer, you basically can't live without it.

Nathaniel Alexander - He invented the folding chair. (It's really the little things that just rock the world sometimes.)

Edmond Berger - Invented the spark plug, essential for combustion engines like those used in cars.

Bessie Blount Griffin - She designed the first medical feeding tubes allowing totally immobilized patients to feed themselves.

Otis Boykin - If it's an electronic device, chances are the variable electrical resistors he invented are inside it. He also patented a heart stimulation control unit and chemical air filters.

Marie Brown - Along with Sidney Jacoby she designed first home security system and smoke alarms.

Robert G. Bryant - NASA Scientist. Half the shit he does is classified, the other half is awesome. Such as the creation of LaRC-SI thermoplastic.

George Washington Carver - The man literally did not do anything that wasn't awesome. On top of thousands of fix-it-yourself pointers, medicinal salves, and budget tightening strategies for poor white families in the states that would have been happy to slap chains on him like his parents, (his mother was taken by Confederate soldiers and his father's identity was thought to be a slave,) it is no exaggeration to say the entire American South owed it's agricultural survival in it's entirety to this man after decades of being a two-crop economy on depleted soil. By the way he turned down a six figure salary to continue a life dedicated to inventing things to help people in a non-profit manner. Awarded several honors by Theodore Roosevelt and was the first black man inducted into the British Scientific Fellowship. And because it can't be stressed enough: Invented fucking peanut butter.

Benjamin Carson - Neurosurgery pioneer. With 90+ published works and innumerable acheivements to his name he's pushed the field ahead considerably during his career.

David Crosthwait - He's the reason you can have a hot shower while living in a massive apartment complex.

Charles Drew - He isolated blood plasma for transfusions and started the Blood Bank. If you've ever undergone serious surgery, you just might owe this man your sad, sorry sack-of-shit life. You definitely know someone who already does.

Philip Emeagwali - Nigerian computer engineer that designed the current record holder for most badass supercomputer in existence.

Meredith Gourdine - He's responsible for ElectroGasDynamics systems. From that he went on to invent the means to clear harmful smoke from a burning building, clear the fog from an airport runway, desalinize sea water, and use natural gas for electricity. He also won the silver medal for the long jump in the 1952 Summer Olympics.

Lloyd Augustus Hall - He invented food preservatives. Without him there would be no junk food. We frown on it now, but in his own time he was a godsend.

Frederick Jones - Prolific inventor, but best known for designing the first refrigeration unit for long-haul shipping trucks eliminating the risk of spoilage for perishable items like food.

Percy Julian - Synthesized cortisone for arthritis treatments and physostigmine for glacouma. Also made an extinguishing foam to combat oil fires.

Ernest Just - Cellular biologist. Advanced the field tremendously on a part-time basis. Repeat that: Ground breaking researcher employed only during summers but made more progress than every other full-time researcher combined.

Elijah McCoy - Prolific inventor and source of the phrase "The real McCoy" for the sheer quality of his inventions and adaptations. His most valued contribution was a mechanical lubricant.

Garret Morgan - Invented the gas mask and the traffic signal. In 1903 (invention of the automobile) the roads were chaos and accidents more likely than an eventless trip until his lights were implemented.

I could go on, boy could I ever, but I'll stop now and see if you're following me. They have three things in common: You can't imagine life without their contributions, they're black, and they are far more praise worthy than you will ever be in your life.

Now just try and justify YOUR pathetic existence to us.

3/23/2012 3:19:31 PM

Anon

And since I'm feeling like citing another example to prove richyrichard a fool, consider this man:



Charles F. Bolden, Jr., Maj. Gen. USMC (retired).

President of his class at the naval academy. Naval aviator, flying over 100 stories in the Vietnam War. Ordinance test pilot for the Prowler, and Corsair II aircraft. Astronaut. Pilot on the mission that deployed Hubble. Commanding general, First Marine Expeditionary Force, Operation Desert Thunder. Retired from the military in 2004. Currently NASA Administrator.

He's pretty much a recruiting poster for the Marines.


3/23/2012 4:37:22 PM

aaa

You would not know what privilege is even if it got you into an exclusive night club.

3/23/2012 4:42:22 PM

Lop

To be entirely fair the amount of "SCIENCE!" done by Black folk is vastly outweighed by every other ethnicity sans native Americans.

OP is still a buffoon, but let's not try to paint African Americans as the vanguards of knowledge, it's a sad fact that the majority have little interest in higher learning.

3/23/2012 6:51:53 PM

Anon

>>Lop
OP is still a buffoon, but let's not try to paint African Americans as the vanguards of knowledge, it's a sad fact that the majority have little interest in higher learning.<<

Where do you get this nonsense? Are you trying to get quoted here yourself?

If there is any difference in people of different ethnic groups pursing higher education, it is economic rather than racial. The goal is to have true equality of opportunity. What people do after that is their decision.

3/23/2012 9:52:03 PM

Anon

Double post. Gah.

3/23/2012 10:05:43 PM

Brendan Rizzo

@ Lop:

Aren't the point of these rebuttals to prove that black people who fulfill the OP's requirements for being intelligent exist?

3/24/2012 7:39:34 AM

His4Life

Hate to break it to you, but black people pretty much invented civilization. The earliest cities and permanently standing structures are in Africa. All of the secrets of modern science, particularly architecture and building, are already present in the earliest African structures, often in coded forms. At this time in history, your precious white people were squatting around in thatched huts, eating uncooked meat and bathing once a year if at all. What is the cultural legacy of white people? Buttsex and NASCAR?

3/24/2012 10:11:30 AM



Troll4Life, I see you've moved on to failing at anthropology now.

3/24/2012 11:30:59 AM

Vox

@Lop - "OP is still a buffoon, but let's not try to paint African Americans as the vanguards of knowledge, it's a sad fact that the majority have little interest in higher learning."


Hmm....so you've met all or at least the majority of African-Americans and held in-depth conversations with them on the importance of higher learning and most of us told you we had no interest in higher learning? Interesting. You should publish these results in some professional and accredited scientific or academic publication/venue. But I have to say I don't ever remember some researcher or pollster coming to my house and polling me on my thoughts about higher education. If you did you'd find that this particular black man views it as very important. I'd have to since I'm currently finishing my Master's Degree in Economics.

I'm also interested in your findings with white Republican voters. Given only 6% of scientists in the US self-identify as Republican. Republicans make up 45-55% of white American voters but only 6% of American scientists. Hmm...

3/24/2012 12:30:31 PM

Vox

@#1385597 - It was only a "fail" because the post pretended there were no early advanced European civilizations as well as African ones. Prior to the "white people, buttsex and NASCAR" part they had a point:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Africa

Around the time of African civilizations like Egypt, Nubia/Kush, D'mt, Punt, Urewe, Nok, etc. the majority of people in Europe outside of Greece and Italy were living in Stone Age or early Bronze Age conditions. But to be fair so were the majority of Africans south of Somalia, Chad and Nigeria.

3/24/2012 12:43:42 PM

His4Life

Hey Vox, thanks for your comments. You raise some good points and I was being sardonic with the buttsex and NASCAR remark. However, it is true that homosexuality is higher among whites than among any other people group in the U.S.

3/24/2012 2:31:20 PM

From #1385597

@Vox

(Part 1)

I know about the early African civilizations, I'm not contesting their existence. Troll4Life's comment implies that civilization was "invented" by African people and then shared with the rest of the world. This notion is, of course, ridiculous. Civilization isn't "invented" it's a societal state of existence that arises as a consequence of sedentarism and food production. To talk about which group of people developed civilization first has little meaning since civilization arose independently in many parts of the world.

Troll4Life does have a point that much of Europe was, for a long time, comparably primitive in terms of civilization compared to other parts of the world, such as Africa and the Middle East (although the part about uncooked meat is completely false, since humans living in Europe have had fire for tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of years, and thus have cooked their food), and even the ancient Greeks and Romans were relative latecomers. However, she seems to think that the "cultural legacy" of a group of people is entirely dependent on how long they've had an advanced civilization for. This is completely retarded.

3/24/2012 2:43:34 PM

From #1385597

(Part 2)

Furthermore, talking about the "cultural legacy of white people" is also retarded since there is no single, unified ethnic/cultural group of "white people". The concept of different races exists as a social construct only; it has no basis in biology and is entirely meaningless when comparing different cultures and ethnic groups. The early Celtic people and the early Germanic tribes were two entirely different cultural groups, and yet they could both be considered as "white people".

In addition, the claim that "[a]ll of the secrets of modern science ... are already present in the earliest African structures [civilizations? societies?]" is preposterous and demonstrates Troll4Life's complete lack of even a basic understanding of what modern science is. The beginnings of what would eventually develop into modern science can be traced back to the Islamic Golden Age, which was a period in time that occurred long after the rise of the first African civilizations. Her point about architecture is meaningless as well since every civilization developed their own style of architecture.

So I stand by what I said. Troll4Life fails again since she continues to talk about things she knows little about.

3/24/2012 2:44:26 PM
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