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I submit that contraception is the worst scourge to ever afflict mankind, the costliest by far in both blood and treasure, absolutely ruinness to women in particular and mankind in general. Since it’s acceptance, divorce rates have soared along with pornography, STD’s, homosexuality, exploitation of women, abortion, breast cancer and now government attacks on freedom of expression. Paul VI was particularly prescient in predicting government pressure in HUMANAE VITAE in explicating the Church’s beautiful teaching in this matter.
Using contraception in the marital act is akin to flipping a hand grenade with the pin pulled into the heart of a marriage.

William J. Quinn, National Catholic Register 51 Comments [3/28/2012 3:23:26 AM]
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Grimsoncrow

Until your holy men can stop themselves from raping kids, keep your tips on sexuality to yourself.

3/28/2012 3:37:57 AM



Because correlation equals causation, amirite?

3/28/2012 3:48:59 AM

David B.

"I submit that contraception is the worst scourge to ever afflict mankind"

Even the pope doesn't agree with you...

3/28/2012 3:49:55 AM

Mudak

How can fewer pregnancies lead to more abortions?

Also, the final paragraph may be the worst analogy … ever.

3/28/2012 4:07:32 AM

Leighton Buzzard

And of course you'd still say that if it was men that got pregnant ...

3/28/2012 4:18:41 AM

Mister Spak

Allowing batshit insane fundies to run your country is more like flipping a nuclear bomb with the codes entered into the heart of the constitution.

3/28/2012 5:24:17 AM

Reynardine

Are we then to understand that contraception leads to really explosive sex?... And my great-grandmother, fairly early in the Nineteenth Century, was divorced and then married my great-grandfather, with whom she had eight children, on which evidence I'd say there's a disconnect in your alleged logic.

3/28/2012 5:27:37 AM



Yeah, because letting geriatric, celibate men dictate birth control policy for the rest of us is a good idea. Uh huh. [/sarcasm]

3/28/2012 5:51:58 AM

dionysus

I submit that contraception is the worst scourge to ever afflict mankind, the costliest by far in both blood and treasure

And I submit that you're a fucking moron. WWII ring a fucking bell? How about the An Lushan Rebellion or the Mongol Conquest? The Black Plague killed more than all three of the wars I mentioned COMBINED. And you think condoms and birth control pills are worse? The only way that works is if you think that every sperm is sacred. I've got news for you: "Every Sperm is Sacred" was a PARODY meaning that it was meant to show how ridiculous anti-contraceptive people are. It was NOT meant to be taken as a serious argument, but the fact that you did shows how utterly moronic your stance is.

Using contraception in the marital act is akin to flipping a hand grenade with the pin pulled into the heart of a marriage.

Oh because couples absolutely HATE having sex unless they're farting out 100 kids. </sarcasm> I've got more news for you: most people no longer work on farms so they don't need more than 3 or 4 kids and most settle on 1 or 2. Unless we want every city in the world to be more crowded than Tokyo within 20 years, we need couples to use contraception. Oh, and contraception ELIMINATES the need for abortion, which WOULD be a win for pro-lifers as well as rational people but you've for some reason decided to be a moron and oppose those, too.

3/28/2012 6:03:33 AM

Darwin

Hyperbole defined

3/28/2012 6:07:08 AM

Swede

There have been condoms for thousands of years. People have known about herbs that prevent pregnancies for much longer than that.

Using contraception in the marital act is akin to deciding for oneself when to have children, and how many one wants. That is all.

The introduction of contraceptive pills were one of the most important corner-stones in women's liberation. Which is probably why you guys hate it so much. Women could now have sex for fun, just like men have always been (more of less) able to do. Which means men are getting more of it too. Before, people abstained from having sex if they didn't want kids, or did it in ways that did not result in pregnancies.

If you can use safe contraceptives, the risk of abortions lessens, not increases, stupid.
The divorce rate went up when women started to have their own income, and were able to support themselves. Before that they had to stay in loveless, perhaps abusive, marriages, because they had nowhere to go.

3/28/2012 6:25:39 AM

Pule Thamex

The Catholic Church leads the way in anti-contraception methods. The Catholic Fathers have devised a method of releasing their semen without getting a woman pregnant. So far, it's a fairly secretive method that hasn't yet caught on among the general populace, though we do know it involves choir boys and orphanages.

3/28/2012 6:43:55 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Unbelievable. The world is wrought by wars, poverty, bigotry, general hatred, despotism, and irrationality, and you think the worst thing ever to happen is contraception?! You have no respect for human life. You have just spit on all the starving children in Africa (and elsewhere) who would love to live in a comfortable, First World society, but are denied that due to greed and hatred. And yet you think birth control is more important than improving people's lives?! I just can't believe you.

3/28/2012 6:57:31 AM

Anon-e-moose

"I submit that contraception is the worst scourge" tl;dr...

The Paedophile Priests issue. Your argument - and your religion's doctrine - is invalid. The phrase 'Put your own house in order before criticising anyone else's actions'. It exists for a reason.

...BTW, is it just my sense of humour, or did I read:

"absolutely ruinness to women"

as 'absolutely runniness to women'? Paula Radcliffe, anyone...?! [/satire]

3/28/2012 7:03:56 AM

Musicalbookworm

I love it when men, who are oppressing women, tell women that taking control of their own bodies is exploitation. Dear, your reality check has bounced on so many levels. I won't go into all of them, but will say that humans, and yes, women are human, have been using contraception since we figured out what causes pregnancy.

3/28/2012 7:10:22 AM

Papabear

"I submit that contraception is the worst scourge to ever afflict mankind..."

I submit that religion is the worst scourge to ever afflict mankind. Impedes science, incites violence, discourages critical thinking, etc.

P.S. Riiigghht. There were almost no STDs before contraception and no one ever got breast cancer. Oh, and if Og had never learned to draw, pornography never would have been invented.

3/28/2012 7:16:45 AM

Doubting Thomas

Big [citation needed] on all that, correlation =/= causation, etc., but I know you're not listening and will never listen to reason. Here's something else you won't listen to, Sparky: The vast majority of Catholic women use some form of birth control, and I'm not talking about your mandated "Natural Family Planning."

I think it's funny how Christians, and especially Catholics, are admitting that their god isn't all powerful and can be stopped by using a rubber device or taking a pill.

3/28/2012 7:21:07 AM

Anon

Mr. William J. Quinn is a liar.

That is all.

3/28/2012 7:29:56 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

You misspelled "ruinous" and should have used "its".

What do you think is more costly and more likely to strain a marriage? Having more children than you can manage, or less sex with your spouse than you want to have, because you risk getting pregnant every time you have intercourse, or being able to control how many children you have and able to have sex without worries?

3/28/2012 7:58:21 AM

Big Jilm

You dropped your viagra pills all over the floor there when you pulled this "notion" out of your ass.

3/28/2012 8:19:01 AM



"Since it’s acceptance, divorce rates have soared along with pornography, STD’s, homosexuality, exploitation of women, abortion, breast cancer and now government attacks on freedom of expression."

Funny how contraception has been the root of these problems now, specifically after Sandra Fluke and the whole mess surrounding Rush Limbaugh.

3/28/2012 8:19:33 AM

Philbert McAdamia

"Ruinness"?

Would that be a woman who is ruinous?

3/28/2012 8:49:38 AM

Thinking Allowed

I love it when women are blamed or claimed to be victims of...well...anything sexual that the christian fundies don't agree with.

3/28/2012 8:55:27 AM



"Since it’s acceptance, divorce rates have soared along with pornography, STD’s, homosexuality, exploitation of women, abortion, breast cancer and now government attacks on freedom of expression."

And the fact that it was very accepted back before the Roman Empire just means we've had all that shit going on for thousands of years... since we haven't had all that as bed as you seem to be making it out to be, I guess you are full of shit.

Imagine that... a Catholic making a claim that isn't true and is ignorant of the facts... I'm shocked.

3/28/2012 9:28:38 AM

Berny

My wife and I use birth control because we felt two children was enough. Get your fucking dogma out of my marriage. The Catholic church's attitude towards birth control is the worst scourge to inflict mankind.
The rest of your rant is a non sequitur.

3/28/2012 9:30:23 AM
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