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[Why, in Leviticus the original 'law's was slavery not abolished?]

Because Slavery is not a sin. Slavery sets a paradigm for the believer. One must become a slave to God. To be a proper slave one must understand the concept of slavery. Therefore we must have a biblical example/understanding of what a slave is.

Drich, Atheist Forums 50 Comments [3/29/2012 3:56:50 AM]
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TB Tabby

In other words, God is OK with slavery.

3/29/2012 4:09:39 AM

CinnamonGull

"To be a proper slave..."
Damn, is it just me, or is it kinda hot in here?

3/29/2012 4:14:52 AM

Filin De Blanc

@Cinnamon Gull: Not just you. That said, could the writers of the Bible have picked a less sexy deity to be in thrall to?

3/29/2012 4:23:34 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

Fuck you, and fuck your "god" in it's goat-hole.

3/29/2012 4:36:12 AM

Pule Thamex

A tent commander's paradise (or how to attain a deep spirituality and oneness with the cosmos):-

1 x herd of camels,
1 x herd of women,
1 x pair of goat-shit encrusted sandals,
1 x straggly beard,
1 x lack of education,
1 x deep-seated ignorance,
1 x malevolent-sky fairy,
and as many as possible x slaves.

3/29/2012 4:48:53 AM

nutbunny

Your god is a dick. Therefore you can bend over for your god and fuck off

3/29/2012 5:13:25 AM

Brendan Rizzo

This is literally the same rationale that Southern slaveowners used to justify slavery in the first place. So horribly mistreating people and not even respecting their basic dignity is OK, Drich? DIAF. Ordinarily, I don't really mean it, but I'm willing to make an exception in your case.

3/29/2012 5:16:11 AM

Mister Spak

So the 13th amendment is a sin?

3/29/2012 5:17:14 AM

Big Jilm

Well, it's your turn to be a slave. I'm sure you'll gladly accept this Godly lesson of humility, right? I mean, we need to set your paradigm as a believer. You need to properly understand what it will be like to be our slave.

3/29/2012 5:21:44 AM

gaijinlaw

And this is why, in the infinitesimal chance that you are correct and YHWH is actually in charge of things, I intend to spit in his eye and march into Hell with my head held high.

3/29/2012 5:31:46 AM

Xotan

Is he talking about a form of S&M role-playing?

Interestingly Abd-ullah is the Arabic for Slave of God.

3/29/2012 5:42:28 AM

emau99

Because Slavery is not a sin. Slavery sets a paradigm for the believer. One must become a slave to God.

Those are three GREAT reasons not be a believer. Thanks.

To be a proper slave one must understand the concept of slavery.

Please define what you mean by a "proper slave".

Therefore we must have a biblical example/understanding of what a slave is.

I have a "biblical" understanding of what a slave is--I can read the Bible, the same as you.

What I'm having trouble understanding--and I've yet to meet a believer with an adequate answer to this--is why something so obviously immoral gets a pass by a being that supposedly has a "perfect" morality.

3/29/2012 5:51:13 AM

breakerslion

Next step up on the ladder of spiritual enlightenment: Drooling Zombie!

Being a slave is not a sin. Owning slaves ....

Slaves are property, and historically, rather expensive property.

Q: How do I get to heaven?

Jesus: Sell everything you have and follow me.

Jesus: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven.

According to your cherry-picked, contradictory book, your argument fails.

3/29/2012 5:55:14 AM

farpadokly

That just about says it all. A rare example of honesty from a Christian that just about sums up what is fundamentally wrong with the Abrahamic religions.

3/29/2012 6:01:31 AM

dionysus

Isn't you god all-powerful? What the hell does he need slaves for then? Anything he could possibly want can be accomplished effortlessly by him and it would be done better and faster than if we had done it. And a being that powerful is unlikely to be insecure. This only leaves the possibility that God is simply a douchebag and I don't think anyone wants to worship a douchebag...











































...I stand corrected.

3/29/2012 6:22:46 AM

Titania

So, what you're saying is that in order be a believer one must become a slave to god and be beaten, poorly feed, forced to work long hours of hard labor, and live in squalid conditions? Your god is a douche at the very least.

3/29/2012 6:29:30 AM

Reynardine

And Man created God in His image and said, "It is good..."

3/29/2012 6:30:09 AM



Kinky. What's God's safeword?

3/29/2012 6:39:40 AM

Hellbound

Spank me Jebus! Harder! Harder!

3/29/2012 6:47:37 AM

ChakatBlackstar

Huh...finally someone other then me actually said this. I've been saying it for years that the Church calling followers "servants" of god was just a fancy way of saying "slave". Though the shocking thing is this guy wants to be a slave to God willingly. Not the willing slave part, there's an entire subculture built around that...but the to God part. He seems like a very abusive master with his wiping out entire peoples, various scare tactics, and very harsh punishments. I mean, the guy once turned one of his "slaves" into a pile of salt for turning to look back at something. Sure not someone I'd ever call master.

3/29/2012 7:08:36 AM

Thinking Allowed

I don't think Drich understands what the bible means by slavery.

3/29/2012 8:18:23 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

I thought God was big on free will.

3/29/2012 8:35:16 AM

nutbunny

@ emau99

"What I'm having trouble understanding--and I've yet to meet a believer with an adequate answer to this--is why something so obviously immoral gets a pass by a being that supposedly has a "perfect" morality. "

You cannot fathom the abyss of infinite justification represented by "Gawd works in mysterious ways. How can a mere human assume what is truly moral? Gawd always knows better than us"

3/29/2012 8:46:34 AM

Masochists for a Democratic Society

As long as you and God keep it safe, sane and consensual.

3/29/2012 8:49:18 AM

Rageaholic

You know, I'm surprised we haven't had a quote like this earlier. Christianity (at least the fundified version) is a lot like slavery. You turn to Jesus, admit you're a horrible person for not following him, and give your life to him. Otherwise, you have eternal torture in the afterlife to look forward to.

With that said, fuck you Drich. You're scum.

3/29/2012 8:52:50 AM
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