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WAKE FOREST, N.C. (ABP) – Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary devoted a special chapel service March 28 to rally support for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage in North Carolina.
Richard Land

Keynote speaker Richard Land, head of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, called the upcoming May 8 vote on North Carolina’s marriage amendment “a propitious moment” both as the first of several state ballots taking up the issue this year and in terms of its potential for influencing Supreme Court justices who haven’t made up their mind on the issue of same-sex marriage.

“If the people speak in North Carolina and in the other states and affirm marriage as being between a man and a woman, I believe that it will tip the balance of the Supreme Court to reject trying to foist by judicial imperialism same-sex marriage on a populace that is clearly opposed to it,” Land said. “If we lose, they will exercise their judicial imperialism. That’s what’s at stake, and you’re first up.”

Land said the upcoming vote is not a matter of gay rights or “sexual freedom” but religious liberty.

“Make no mistake about it, this is not a debate about live and let live,” he said. “The agenda of the homosexual community is to have their lifestyle and their behavior normalized and have same-sex marriage normalized and to have those who disagree with it to be ostracized on the level of the Ku Klux Klan. That’s their goal. Make no mistake about it.”

“They would consider what I’m saying to you this morning to be hate speech,” Land continued. “If we didn’t have a First Amendment to protect us, at least when we’re in chapel, there could come a time when I could be arrested for just saying what the Bible says about homosexuality.”

Richard Land, Associated Baptist Press 39 Comments [4/5/2012 3:02:52 AM]
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Kulgur

You're not really gathering support for the cause by comparing yourself to the Klan, you know...

4/5/2012 3:25:12 AM

fmitchell

Fascinating how the supposed majority paints itself as an oppressed minority, to the point of defining "religious liberty" as the right to enshrine their beliefs in state and federal law.

4/5/2012 4:02:40 AM

Leighton Buzzard

Whine moar, losers.

4/5/2012 4:23:26 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

“If we didn’t have a First Amendment to protect us, at least when we’re in chapel, there could come a time when I could be arrested for just saying what the Bible says about homosexuality.”

Funny how you would deny others those same rights.

4/5/2012 4:30:18 AM

ChakatBlackstar

So they think that if they get enough people supporting them, that will influence the court? When will people learn that being wrong is not a democracy?

4/5/2012 4:40:23 AM

Agahnim

You still shouldn't do it, Dick.

4/5/2012 4:45:28 AM

Filin De Blanc

What is with these people defining "religious liberty" as "I can do whatever the fuck I want"?

4/5/2012 4:58:17 AM

Brendan Rizzo

"Make no mistake about it, this is not a debate about live and let live," said a pastor in a Southern church in the 1960s. "The agenda of the Negroid community is to have their lifestyle and their behavior normalized and to have racial integration normalized and to have those who disagree with it to be ostracized on the level of the Nazis. That's their goal. Make no mistake about it.

"They would consider what I'm saying to you this morning to be hate speech. If we didn't have a First Amendment to protect us, at least when we're in chapel, there could come a time when I could be arrested for just saying what the Bible says about the inferiority of Negroes."

4/5/2012 5:44:07 AM

dionysus

If fundies took even HALF the effort and money they spent on banning gay marriage and abortion and spent it on reducing poverty instead we wouldn't have any more kids starving to death in a first world nation. But then again, fighting poverty is what Jesus would have focused on so there's no way fundies would support it.

"Land said the upcoming vote is not a matter of gay rights or “sexual freedom” but religious liberty."

Yeah? What about the religious freedom of liberal Christians, Buddhists, and other religions that want gays to marry? By banning same sex marriage you're trampling on THEIR religious freedoms.

4/5/2012 6:09:08 AM

Extraintrovert

"The agenda of the homosexual community is to have their lifestyle and their behavior normalized and have same-sex marriage normalized..."

That's... actually pretty accurate. Huh. Land still thinks this is somehow a bad thing though, so he's still nuts.

"...and to have those who disagree with it to be ostracized on the level of the Ku Klux Klan."

Well, if you stopped trying to justify your beliefs and actions with lies and bigotry that wouldn't be out of place in the KKK, then maybe people would stop making that comparison.

4/5/2012 6:27:34 AM

Doubting Thomas

Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary devoted a special chapel service March 28 to rally support for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage in North Carolina.

OK, you've revoked your tax-exempt status by playing politics. Please start remitting property and income taxes now.

“The agenda of the homosexual community is to have their lifestyle and their behavior normalized

Uh huh, no problem.

and have same-sex marriage normalized

Yep, still no problem.

and to have those who disagree with it to be ostracized on the level of the Ku Klux Klan.

I don't know if that's their goal or not, but that's what's eventually going to happen, just like the idiots speaking out against interracial marriage today.

“They would consider what I’m saying to you this morning to be hate speech,”

Probably because it is hate speech. Funny how often Christians bring up the issue of hate speech. It's almost as if they knew they are guilty of spewing hatred.


4/5/2012 6:55:52 AM

Toothygrin

“If we didn’t have a First Amendment to protect us, at least when we’re in chapel, there could come a time when I could be arrested for just saying what the Bible says about homosexuality.

Yeah well, that's really the kicker, isn't it? What this says to me is that your whole argument against the "normalization" of gay lifestyle is in fact biblical-based and hence religious in nature. That, sir is precisely why you will fail and why your whole diatribe is moot (not to mention pure hypocrisy).

You migh want to sit down and ponder that.

4/5/2012 7:32:41 AM

derpmaster

there's overwhelming opposition to amendment 1 in my part of the state. gay marriage is already illegal in north carolina and from what i understand the amendment's wording could potentially screw up a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with gay couples. it sets one man + one woman as the only "domestic union" that will be valid in the state of north carolina, which means that it completely fucks plenty of situations involving child custody, health/life insurance benefits, end of life planning, etc. stuff like common law marriage, civil unions, etc? gone, no legal standing. have a nice day and remember, jesus loves you.

us central/eastern north carolinians have this shit on lockdown. it's very unpopular here. it's western NC that might be the problem.

4/5/2012 7:39:26 AM



Religious freedom does not mean you have the right to impose your religious beliefs on everyone.

4/5/2012 7:55:43 AM

Cy

“The agenda of the homosexual community is to have their lifestyle and their behavior normalized and have same-sex marriage normalized and to have those who disagree with it to be ostracized on the level of the Ku Klux Klan. That’s their goal. Make no mistake about it.”

And the problem with this is...?

4/5/2012 8:03:41 AM

Thinking Allowed

Hey Ricky, churches will still hold the right to accept or reject who they marry. If your precious church chooses not to certify legal marriage documents, they still hold that right. So tell me, where is your religious liberty being stepped on?

4/5/2012 8:21:49 AM

Mister Spak

"Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary devoted a special chapel service March 28 to rally support for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage in North Carolina. "

While you're at it, why don't you ban interacial marriages? That would eliminate that pesky Loving vs Virginia court decision.

4/5/2012 8:22:17 AM

Orion

Haha, "Dick Land"

4/5/2012 8:50:24 AM

Randy

<b>“Make no mistake about it, this is not a debate about live and let live,” he said.</b>

That's true. A sheepherder 3500 years ago found gay sex icky, so Mr. Land's hands are tied and live and let live in not in the cards here.
<b>
“The agenda of the homosexual community is to have their lifestyle and their behavior normalized and have same-sex marriage normalized and to have those who disagree with it to be ostracized on the level of the Ku Klux Klan. That’s their goal. Make no mistake about it.”</b>

Yes, their agenda is to secure the rights denied them in the past, including same sex marriage. And they don't want to worry about losing those rights in the future either. If that fits your definition of "normalization", too bad.

Secondly, their goal is not the marginalization of religious people. Your decision to work to deny other human beings their full rights is why you and yours are taking political flack.

If you don't want to be ostracized like the KKK, then don't work to deny your fellow man their pursuit of happiness, like the KKK did and does.

Or you could do unto others as you would have done unto you, and leave the gays alone.

4/5/2012 10:01:33 AM

dionysus

@Orion

Lol. Dick Land sounds like a gay amusement park.

4/5/2012 11:57:19 AM

whatever

What Doubting Thomas said.

4/5/2012 11:59:42 AM

Osiris

Jesus: And you shall love your fellow man as I love you.
Christian: But what if they are gay?
Jesus: Did I fucking stutter?

4/5/2012 12:43:23 PM

aaa

Lots of buzzwords with little substance. Nothing we haven't seen a zillion times.

4/5/2012 1:07:14 PM

nazani14

I refer you to the IRS publication on tax-exempt status for churches. You have just blown it.

4/5/2012 1:09:26 PM

checkmate

trying to foist by judicial imperialism same-sex marriage on a populace that is clearly opposed to it

So you would prefer to foist by judicial imperialism a denial of rights and freedom on people who are clearly not opposed to it?

Fascist pig.

4/5/2012 2:07:42 PM
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