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Once you have abolished slavery you have essentially made people literally worthless, the rise of genocide and the liquidation of millions following the abolishment of slavery is no accident.

Better that one child is sold then the whole family dies because of famine but that would be immoral wouldn't it.

Is it more moral for a women to sleep with just one man than the whole town I think so and I could think of a few women that would be more moral as slaves.

If there is more benefit in something than harm Allah has made it lawful for mankind Alhamdulillah

Abu Yusuf 74, Islamic Awakening 112 Comments [4/6/2012 3:25:45 AM]
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shykid

"Once you have abolished slavery you have essentially made people literally worthless"

Seriously? Seriously?? I can't fucking believe I just read this. You are a monster.

"Once you have legalized slavery you have essentially made people literally worthless."

FTFY.

4/6/2012 3:42:39 AM

Reynardine

Abu Yusuf, you have proven that fundie viciousness shows no barrier of race, creed, or color.

4/6/2012 4:10:30 AM

Huh

I don't say this often, but... die in a fire.

4/6/2012 4:10:37 AM

Nerikull

The author just failed everything in life....forever.

4/6/2012 4:15:33 AM



Ah, Islam, religion of peace and love. Or so we keep being told.

4/6/2012 4:20:58 AM

OhJohnNo

This person needs to be sold as a slave to some warlord.

4/6/2012 4:30:13 AM

anevilmeme

That may be the most vile thing I've ever read.

4/6/2012 4:42:50 AM

KittyKaboom

Please tell me this is a Poe. Or irony.

I like irony.

4/6/2012 5:07:15 AM



"Better that one child is sold then the whole family dies because of famine but that would be immoral wouldn't it."

Unless of course, that child had been you. Or any child that isn't a lowly female, right?


4/6/2012 5:08:00 AM

dionysus

Once you have abolished slavery you have essentially made people literally worthless

In market value, yeah, but all of the sudden they have human value and aren't just a pair of fucking hands and feet doing all of the work you're too lazy to do.

the rise of genocide and the liquidation of millions following the abolishment of slavery is no accident

Then explain the fucking Holocaust where the Nazis used their genocide victims as slaves.

Better that one child is sold then the whole family dies because of famine but that would be immoral wouldn't it.

you could always, oh I don't know, PAY THE FUCKING FAMILY FOR THEIR SERVICES.

Is it more moral for a women to sleep with just one man than the whole town I think so and I could think of a few women that would be more moral as slaves.

So it's better that women be raped (have sex with their master against their will) than choose their partners? You monster!

If there is more benefit in something than harm Allah has made it lawful for mankind Alhamdulillah

Well clearly this isn't true as Allah apparently likes slavery which is completely wrong and harmful to the slaves (who are often beaten and, as I mentioned before, raped).

4/6/2012 5:25:41 AM

D Laurier

Once you have abolished slavery you have made all people essentialy equal.
A slave is only worth money, but a free man is worth far more.
A slave is livestock, and resentfull livestock that only works under threat of punishment. He is a poor producer who seeks ever to sabotage his master's ambitions.
A free man works with pride, and holds his own work to a high standard.

4/6/2012 5:33:20 AM

A Buddhist

"If there is more benefit in something than harm Allah has made it lawful for mankind"

Well, then. Legalize Buddhist meditation. Legalize listening to music. Legalize chess. These all benefit mankind.

4/6/2012 5:34:41 AM

Nihlum

The thread title

"whats all the fuss with having slave girls?"

Thread topic: rape.

Now if you will excuse me I am going to take a shower in an acid bath to take the pain away.

4/6/2012 5:36:39 AM

Filin De Blanc

It's not enslaving people that's disrespectful of their worth? This has to be one of the most insane things I've ever read.

4/6/2012 5:39:40 AM

A Buddhist

"If there is more benefit in something than harm Allah has made it lawful for mankind"

Well, then. Legalize Buddhist meditation. Legalize listening to music. Legalize chess. These all benefit mankind.

4/6/2012 5:51:57 AM

emau99

Once you have abolished slavery you have essentially made people literally worthless

Worthless to whom?

the rise of genocide and the liquidation of millions following the abolishment of slavery is no accident

I don't doubt that it was done on purpose. However, history shows us that there was plenty of genocide and mass murder prior to the abolition of slavery.

If there is more benefit in something than harm Allah has made it lawful for mankind

If Allah has made slavery lawful, then that's a very good reason for us not to worship him.

4/6/2012 5:55:20 AM

Atheissimo

Islamic fundamentalists are so clueless.

At least the Christian fundies in the West have a decent opposition, so they have become experts at apologetics, pseudo-science and weasel words to hide their bigotry

The Islamic fundies have no opposition at all in their heartland countries, so the standard of their apologetics is exceedingly poor

4/6/2012 6:05:14 AM

Argle Bargle

There's nothing wrong with slavery, Mr. Yusuf. Now, come over to my house, I have a nice pair of iron manacles made just for you.

Dumbass.

4/6/2012 6:17:25 AM

breakerslion

May I crown you King of the False Dichotomy with this crown-shaped boulder? It might take several tries before it stays on.

4/6/2012 6:26:29 AM

Doubting Thomas

Funny because I read this thinking that it's exactly what a Republican would say. Just replace "Allah" with "God."

4/6/2012 6:26:33 AM

Professor Cold Heart

There's another post in the thread arguing that a man having non-consensual sex with his wife isn't rape, because Islamic teaching defines rape as non-consensual adultery.

I think Islamic Awakening is a strong contender for Worst Forum on the Net.

4/6/2012 6:35:38 AM

OhJohnNo

Another quote from that thread:

"However, like the other brother said...your wives and what your right hand possess are yours."

So he thinks there is no such thing as marital rape, because he's one of those cuntshits who thinks wives are property.

Though... I suppose if I were to be absolutely fair, he does say that any husband who has to do this to get sex is a fucking bad husband. Doesn't excuse the precedent, though.

4/6/2012 7:19:22 AM

Unbeliever

That whole thread is a gold-mine:

"Technically your question doesn't make sense because 'rape' means extra-marital sex against the will of one of the two participants.

Thus 'rape' cannot occur between a husband and his wife within a marriage, simply because (1) they are married and (2) the wife does not have the right to refuse sex. She can lawfully refuse sex only if she's menstruating (hayd) or experiencing post-partum bleeding (nifaas) or if she suffers from an illness that would aggravate due to intercourse.

If the master legally owns a slave-girl then she is permissible for him like a wife is permissible for the husband. So a slave-girl basically takes the same ruling like a wife."

This is the post #2, same thread.

4/6/2012 7:36:00 AM

Unbeliever

Deleting double-post

4/6/2012 7:51:14 AM

OscarApollo

What the fuck is this? This is vile even for FSTDT.

4/6/2012 7:53:54 AM
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