Quote# 86813

Gender segregationists will be extremely disappointed when they finally realize how many wedges they created by advocating for separate marriage for genders. There's the wedge between evangelicals and the gay agenda. The wedge between Catholics and gender-segregated 'marriage.' The wedge between parents and homosexual propaganda in school. The wedge between businesses and their money when they are sued by monogender couples. The wedge between freedom of religion, and coercing people of faith to obey new gender-segregating marriage laws. The wedge between procreative biology, and the infertility of two 'married' men. Which came first, the pro-gender position or the wedge? For millennia, people have honored gender integration in marriage. Don't blame NOM. Gay rights activists are the ones pushing segregation. The biggest wedge of all is separating men and women in marriage.

Frances Kelly, Joe. My. God. 104 Comments [4/6/2012 3:42:29 AM]
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Gender segregation!! These are the same kinds of people who believe in separate schooling for boys and girls (or sometimes none for the latter) and "separate spheres" for men and women!

4/6/2012 4:13:41 AM

Nobody is campaigning to make gay marriage COMPULSORY, dumbass!

4/6/2012 4:19:33 AM


"Gender segregationists"

How do you folks come up with this stuff?

Besides, aren't you guys the ones who support rigid gender roles and expect men and women to "know their proper place in society"?

4/6/2012 4:22:14 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

Failed with the first two words.

4/6/2012 4:52:18 AM


Dunno, Frances' idea of compulsory gay marriage has a certain amount of appeal, heh heh.

4/6/2012 5:07:55 AM


All these "wedges" you talk about are actually between (usually religious) bigots and everyone else.
"The wedge between parents and homosexual propaganda in school."
It's bigoted parents who believe that their children are being exposed to "homosexual propoganda".
"The wedge between businesses and their money when they are sued by monogender couples."
It's bigoted businesses that are sued for discrimination.
"The wedge between freedom of religion, and coercing people of faith to obey new gender-segregating marriage laws."
"Freedom of religion" doesn't come into it. No-one is forcing churches to carry out marriages they don't want to. When you talk about "freedom of religion", you actually mean "freedom to be a Christian" in any case. There are other religions in the US, and their followers also get married. There are also atheists, and they get married too. Marriage is not exclusive to Christianity. And no-one is forcing anyone to officiate over, or take part in, a gay marriage.
"The wedge between procreative biology, and the infertility of two 'married' men."
What about heterosexual couples who can't have children? Or don't have children?
"For millennia, people have honored gender integration in marriage."
Firstly, there have been same-sex marriages in other cultures. Secondly, slavery has existed for as long as marriage. The age of something does not correspond to its worth. This appeal to antiquity underlines the paucity of your argument.
Gay people have rights, just as you have the right to be a bigot. You do not, however, have the right to impose your bigotry on others. And when you try to, and fail, arguing that you are somehow being oppressed is not a massively convincing argument. You being a subscriber to the dominant belief system in the country and all.

4/6/2012 5:08:45 AM

Tolpuddle Martyr

The first wedge was but the thin edge in your babbling wall'o text.

4/6/2012 5:20:43 AM


It's not like all gay couples move to Antarctica or something. They still interact with the opposite sex on a daily basis and many of them (like most normal people) have opposite sex friends. They just want to marry someone of the same sex. And they still want straight people to be able to marry and retain their marriages. Where's the fucking segregation? I want to echo shykid here: how the fuck DO you people come up with this crap?

4/6/2012 5:33:19 AM


Don't worry, we'll be sure to bus same sex couples into your neighborhood. It worked so well for racial integration after all.

Notwithstanding your better than average grasp of English, I've seen more coherent arguments spelled out in vomit on the sidewalk.

4/6/2012 6:07:47 AM

Doubting Thomas

The biggest wedge of all is separating men and women in marriage.

OK, exactly how is letting two men somewhere get married to each other driving heterosexual couples apart? It's not like there are only a certain number of marriage licenses to go around.

4/6/2012 6:16:40 AM


Gay rights are bad because I can make up conspiracies and terms that incorporate the scary word 'segregation' in describing the gay "agenda".

4/6/2012 7:02:59 AM

Thinking Allowed

Sure there are wedges, but not by those advocating same sex marriage and those of the LGBT community.

4/6/2012 7:19:06 AM


Dammit! That first sentence broke my gibberish/English translator.

4/6/2012 7:22:53 AM


No one is trying to force you to marry another man (or woman). How do you not get that?

4/6/2012 7:33:08 AM


Excuse me, sir. Would you like Italian or Ranch dressing with your word salad?

4/6/2012 7:34:49 AM


All of these "wedges" are merely the creation of people who want to stick their noses into other peoples' business. No one is telling evangelicals or Catholics what to do. It's evangelicals and Catholics griping because they can't tell other people what to do. You want to be heterosexual or marry someone of the opposite sex or avoid gay people or even complain about them? Go right ahead. Who's stopping you? But that's not enough. You want the government to enforce your views on other people.

4/6/2012 7:49:49 AM


> gender segregation
> separate marriage for genders

What kind of a brain damage makes people use this sort of phrases?

It's like asking "Is your computer a virus?" I mean, individual words may mean something, but you need to squint really really hard to make sense of what the hell is being said.

4/6/2012 8:07:40 AM


The only place where there is segregation between men and women? Listen up, you idiot, nobody is forcing you to marry a woman. You are free to marry a man, if one of them is stupid enough to take you on.

And wasn't NOM recently found guilty of money laundering? I believe I read this on the net. So you think it's OK to commit a criminal offence rather than that two people of any gender should live happily together.

BTW, are you divorced? That's surely the biggest wedge of all.

4/6/2012 8:18:48 AM


There's a huge wedge, it's made of cheese and it's right between your fuckin ears!

4/6/2012 8:41:19 AM


Nobody is forcing you to be gay, you know?

4/6/2012 9:04:38 AM


Oh dearie me, these people must be constantly furious.

It's bad enough when you are against something like racism because there are so many people who find it acceptable that it makes you fume.

It must be even harder to be anti-gay marriage because the tide is turning against your views and every day seems like another nail in the coffin.

But to be something as extreme as gender segregationist? Couples holding hands would send you into a fit. Unisex hair dressers, mixed schools, mixed ward hospitals, those unisex toilets they sometimes have at nightclubs. These are all so readily accepted in society that they must think they're in Hell.

No wonder they keep going on about the end times. It's like if the sky being blue or the grass being green was the ultimate sin in your worldview.

4/6/2012 9:25:11 AM


You morons make it sound like allowing gays to marry will automatically result in fewer heterosexuals to marry as well. Just because the law in Canada allows me to marry a male doesn't automatically make me gay or invalidate my marriage of 25 years to my wife.

4/6/2012 9:33:09 AM


coercing people of faith to obey new gender-segregating marriage laws No matter your religion or lack thereof, you can marry the consenting adult of your choice. I don't think Buddhists or pagans are going to have a problem with that, so some people of faith are cool. Which ruins your argument.

Is "gender segregationists" the new term for gay rights advocates? Because it isn't nearly as catchy.

4/6/2012 10:01:29 AM


I *think* what this rambling insanity is trying to say is that dem fags are bigoted because they only like the same sex, just like the KKK is bigoted because they only like the same race.

4/6/2012 10:08:08 AM

JB Mason

These people continue to make up new terms and new ideas on an astonishing basis... when your position is ultimately bullshit, you have to frame it in newspeak/doublespeak if you want to have a chance at being taken seriously by anyone...

4/6/2012 10:12:37 AM

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