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Simply "Food for Thought"

EVERYONE thinks in terms of THEMSELVES. Everyone judges the world from their own set of standards. Everyone believes themselves to be "moderate"

A proabortionist thinks killing their own baby is a moderate view. Anyone who disagrees is "FAR right"

In the end it is God's Law and the Constitution that defines "moderation" You are an "extremist" if you stray from THAT standard.

Yes, Halley, you are an extremist Communist.

Specter, Minuteman Message Board 41 Comments [4/16/2012 3:21:40 AM]
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(first) so, basically, reverse tactic by accusing someone of being far left? shiny shiny mirror indeed.

also, sorry but "god's law" (tm) is not case law material, even in fundieland

4/16/2012 3:48:48 AM

Kulgur

Very few people think killing babies is OK (I first wrote 'no people', but I know that's not true). But here's the thing:

Embryos AREN'T babies! Neither are fetuses! They can't feel pain, they can't feel fear, and if operating them away is murder, so is having a period. Egg cells are, after all, both alive and quite human.

4/16/2012 4:16:38 AM

Extraintrovert

Yes, because 2000 year old religious customs are very similar to a secular system of laws. Also, I love how Specter claims that "everyone" thinks themselves a moderate then utterly fails to realise the implications when referring to his own position as the moderate one.

@Kulgur
Prolifers have systematically rejected this argument every time, so you shouldn't bother. If you are attempting to turn their "abortion is murder" argument against them, then use evidence showing how criminalising abortion doesn't stop it and how comprehensive sex education and effective contraception is THE most effective method of lowering abortions. It probably won't work, given their habitual rejection of all contradictory evidence, but it has a better chance.

4/16/2012 4:45:58 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Everyone thinks in terms of themselves. Everyone judges the world from their own set of standards. Everyone believes themselves to be "moderate".

A fundamentalist thinks that leaving the poor to die, enslaving women, and subjugating all people to a hyper-extremist theocracy is a moderate view. Anyone who disagrees is labeled "far left".

In the end it is international consensus and the Constitution that defines "moderation". You are an "extremist" if you stray from that standard.

Yes, Specter, you are an extremist reactionary.

Fixed it for you.

4/16/2012 5:01:47 AM

michael3ov

"A pro abortionist thinks killing their own baby is a moderate view"

I challenge you to find anyone who has given a great deal of thought about the issue of abortion, without the illogical influence of their emotions, that would call themselves a "pro-abortionist". It is truly interesting how we use the terms pro-life and pro-choice. I personally think pro-choice is a more accurate description for pro-choice people than pro-life is for pro-life people. The term pro-life implies that the opponents are anti-life and no one can honestly say that the pro-choice supporters are anti-life. Hell, there aren't many people in general that are anti-life. However, the pro-life people can be categorized as anti-choice. They would like government to intervene and make decisions about a woman's reproductive health. The other interesting thing is that most pro-lifers, not all, tend to be pro-war and pro death penalty. They don't very often value you viable life existing right now as much as they value potential life.

4/16/2012 5:28:18 AM

Reynardine

Somehow, this morning's offerings make me feel swamped by superstition and DARVO.

4/16/2012 5:48:24 AM

Mister Spak

"In the end it is God's Law and the Constitution that defines "moderation"

An antifreedomist thinks enforcing his religion on everyone else is a moderate view.

But the constitution has a first amendment and a prohibition of religious tests so in the end you are full of shit.


4/16/2012 5:56:36 AM

Agahnim

Abortion doesn't kill babies anymore than eating a can of cashews causes deforestation.

4/16/2012 6:11:23 AM

Papabear

"A proabortionist thinks killing their own baby is a moderate view."

I dare say that almost no one is pro abortion, but many are in favor of the right to an abortion. And, do try to grasp the fact that a blastocyst or an embryo is not a baby.

4/16/2012 7:02:45 AM

Filin De Blanc

I'm convinced that 99% of the quotes on this site that mention communism or Marxism have no idea what they actually are.

4/16/2012 7:04:14 AM

Thinking Allowed

In the end it is God's Law and the Constitution that defines "moderation" You are an "extremist" if you stray from THAT standard.

You do realize that The Constitution has a little thing called The First Amendment. It has nothing to do with "God's Law".

4/16/2012 7:34:56 AM

JSS

Everyone believes their view is 'moderate', so therefore my own personal view is the truly moderate one! Anyone who strays from my view is an extremist!

4/16/2012 7:49:34 AM

rubber chicken

I am well aware that my own views are anything but moderate.

4/16/2012 9:01:03 AM

Mayhem

Your pot is blacker than my kettle!

4/16/2012 9:10:05 AM

Lucilius

If this is what you offer as food for thought, my brain will starve to death.

4/16/2012 9:37:56 AM

cdcdrr

In the end it is God's Law and the Constitution that defines "moderation" You are an "extremist" if you stray from THAT standard.

Because those founding fathers that wrote the constitution couldn't possibly have been radicals, right? Oh wait, they were.

4/16/2012 9:54:12 AM

DarkfireTaimatsu

Sorry, your "food for thought" is past its expiration date.

4/16/2012 10:49:18 AM

VioletBeauregarde

Notice the pattern of persecution complexes in most, if not ALL these posts? LOL
Basically they think like kindergarteners..."If you disagree with me, you're mean and you hate me!"

4/16/2012 10:54:15 AM

Doubting Thomas

This sounds a bit DARVOish. Usually it's conservatives on the far right who claim that anyone who doesn't agree with them is a "liberal," which is usually code for "immoral atheist communist America-hater."

And don't you dare even insinuate that God's law and the U.S. Constitution are somehow equal laws over U.S. citizens.

4/16/2012 10:57:21 AM

Smurfette Principle

In the end it is God's Law and the Constitution that defines "moderation" You are an "extremist" if you stray from THAT standard.

You realize that those two documents are completely oppositional because of this thing called the First Amendment, right?

4/16/2012 11:14:56 AM

Philbert McAdamia

Far left, far right, Pfffft.

As a child of the 60s (as I remember it ;-) ), I'd say I'm more like Far Out.

4/16/2012 11:19:30 AM

Karana

Relativist logical fallacy. Invalid !

4/16/2012 11:52:17 AM

tranz2deep

@Kulgur

Don't give the bastards ideas, they'll start advocating punishments to go against any woman not pregnant for egg-murder!!

4/16/2012 12:02:03 PM

Old Viking

Specter's pissed because his mother made him dress like a girl till he was 12.

4/16/2012 12:17:16 PM

JohnTheAtheist

Since the "gods law" and the constitution are both things that need to be interpreted you have solved nothing. Fuck, even you douchebags that believe in god can't decide what his law is.

4/16/2012 12:20:22 PM
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