Simply "Food for Thought"
EVERYONE thinks in terms of THEMSELVES. Everyone judges the world from their own set of standards. Everyone believes themselves to be "moderate"
A proabortionist thinks killing their own baby is a moderate view. Anyone who disagrees is "FAR right"
In the end it is God's Law and the Constitution that defines "moderation" You are an "extremist" if you stray from THAT standard.
Yes, Halley, you are an extremist Communist.
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(first) so, basically, reverse tactic by accusing someone of being far left? shiny shiny mirror indeed.
also, sorry but "god's law" (tm) is not case law material, even in fundieland
Very few people think killing babies is OK (I first wrote 'no people', but I know that's not true). But here's the thing:
Embryos AREN'T babies! Neither are fetuses! They can't feel pain, they can't feel fear, and if operating them away is murder, so is having a period. Egg cells are, after all, both alive and quite human.
Yes, because 2000 year old religious customs are very similar to a secular system of laws. Also, I love how Specter claims that "everyone" thinks themselves a moderate then utterly fails to realise the implications when referring to his own position as the moderate one.
@Kulgur
Everyone thinks in terms of themselves. Everyone judges the world from their own set of standards. Everyone believes themselves to be "moderate".
A fundamentalist thinks that leaving the poor to die, enslaving women, and subjugating all people to a hyper-extremist theocracy is a moderate view. Anyone who disagrees is labeled "far left".
In the end it is international consensus and the Constitution that defines "moderation". You are an "extremist" if you stray from that standard.
Yes, Specter, you are an extremist reactionary.
Fixed it for you.
"A pro abortionist thinks killing their own baby is a moderate view"
I challenge you to find anyone who has given a great deal of thought about the issue of abortion, without the illogical influence of their emotions, that would call themselves a "pro-abortionist". It is truly interesting how we use the terms pro-life and pro-choice. I personally think pro-choice is a more accurate description for pro-choice people than pro-life is for pro-life people. The term pro-life implies that the opponents are anti-life and no one can honestly say that the pro-choice supporters are anti-life. Hell, there aren't many people in general that are anti-life. However, the pro-life people can be categorized as anti-choice. They would like government to intervene and make decisions about a woman's reproductive health. The other interesting thing is that most pro-lifers, not all, tend to be pro-war and pro death penalty. They don't very often value you viable life existing right now as much as they value potential life.
"In the end it is God's Law and the Constitution that defines "moderation"
An antifreedomist thinks enforcing his religion on everyone else is a moderate view.
But the constitution has a first amendment and a prohibition of religious tests so in the end you are full of shit.
"A proabortionist thinks killing their own baby is a moderate view."
I dare say that almost no one is pro abortion, but many are in favor of the right to an abortion. And, do try to grasp the fact that a blastocyst or an embryo is not a baby.
In the end it is God's Law and the Constitution that defines "moderation" You are an "extremist" if you stray from THAT standard.
You do realize that The Constitution has a little thing called The First Amendment. It has nothing to do with "God's Law".
In the end it is God's Law and the Constitution that defines "moderation" You are an "extremist" if you stray from THAT standard.
Because those founding fathers that wrote the constitution couldn't possibly have been radicals, right? Oh wait, they were.
This sounds a bit DARVOish. Usually it's conservatives on the far right who claim that anyone who doesn't agree with them is a "liberal," which is usually code for "immoral atheist communist America-hater."
And don't you dare even insinuate that God's law and the U.S. Constitution are somehow equal laws over U.S. citizens.
In the end it is God's Law and the Constitution that defines "moderation" You are an "extremist" if you stray from THAT standard.
You realize that those two documents are completely oppositional because of this thing called the First Amendment, right?
Far left, far right, Pfffft.
As a child of the 60s (as I remember it ;-) ), I'd say I'm more like Far Out.
Don't you people usually want LESS governmental influence on individuals' lives?
Aren't you also "EVERYONE", Specter? You definitely seem to judge the world from your own set of standards.
I seriously hope you are also against war and the death penalty, both of which kills actually breathing individuals that are able to feel pain. War kills many babies, not only with bombs and bullets, but first and foremost with lack of sanitation and nutrition.
Yes, Specter, you are an extreme hypocrite.
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There is no such thing as a "proabortionist."
[In the end it is God's Law and the Constitution that defines "moderation"...]
Funny how god's law isn't mentioned in the Constitution.
"Everyone believes themselves to be "moderate""
I haven't 100% decided on my exact political beliefs at the moment (question everything!), but I wouldn't call myself moderate. I'm fairly far left; some of my beliefs are quite Marxist (actual Marxism, not fundie defintions of Marxism).
@Filin De Blanc "I'm convinced that 99% of the quotes on this site that mention communism or Marxism have no idea what they actually are."
Only 99% of them? XD
A proabortionist thinks killing their own baby is a moderate view. Anyone who disagrees is "FAR right"
Moderates in the US, according to studies of the so-called "swing" voters, tend to be fiscal conservatives and social liberals. They don't like the government taking their money, and they don't like the government enforcing their morals, either. People who are opposed to abortion under any circumstance represent about 20% of the US population. That would easily qualify as "far right" by any rational definition.
I'm sorry, but this post makes little sense. With loosely connected words like "constitution", "God", "proabortionist", and "communist" tossed around, this quote seems like little more than conservative diarrhea. Or is it just me?
@Swede : what they want is the federal government to have no power to regulate what happens at the state and local level.
For example, if your state decides that an abortion should be a capital offense like murder, or that divorce should be illegal under most circumstances, or that followers of any religion save mainline Protestant Christian denominations shouldn't be allowed to vote or hold office, then that's simply their right, and the Federal government shouldn't be allowed to intervene or interfere. Social safety nets are to be left solely up to the church and whatever private organizations are willing to step up to the plate, regardless of whether or not those organizations can take up the slack, and all donations are to be strictly voluntary--no tax dollars are to be used to fund what they see as a private matter. Education is likewise seen as a completely private matter, not something that the government is to be involved in--and it's certainly not seen as a legal right. Your education is whatever your parents wish to provide, or whatever they can afford to purchase for you. Neither is healthcare, or housing, or food--those are also seen as purely private matters, and you're only entitled to whatever you can afford to pay for. In fact, your rights under this system are purely a matter of local consensus. They feel that the only thing the federal government should have the power to do is defend the borders and protect private property. And if you don't like it, then you're free to leave, assuming you're able to leave and there's a better place to go TO.
This is how they define both "freedom" and "small government."
"EVERYONE thinks in terms of THEMSELVES. Everyone judges the world from their own set of standards. Everyone believes themselves to be "moderate" "
"In the end it is God's Law and the Constitution that defines "moderation" You are an "extremist" if you stray from THAT standard."
Shiny mirror on the wall...
1) It's not a baby. It is, depending on it's stage of development, a zygote, embryo or foetus.
Confused?
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