[From "The Truth about Harry Potter!!"]
It's just fantasy; witchcraft isn't real.
Wiccan (witchcraft) is a legally recognized religion by the IRS and the US military. (Yes, the schools and libraries are pushing a religion by promoting Potter!) A local Wiccan has said that the practices shown are consistent with real witchcraft. In an abcNews.com interview, a practicing witch said the Potter books would help "change the way people feel about [witches]." Witches themselves say there is indeed power in witchcraft - and God agrees with them! The power isn't in being able to have chairs fly across the room - the power is in what it does to your soul. The question is, what is the source of that power? God says Satan is the true source of that power. Your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour - 1 Peter 5:8
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Who needs driving schools? Just go watch a few James Bond movies and you're instantly qualified to do even trickiest and most explosive car chases. Right?
Stuff being shown in fiction != comprehensive education about the stuff. People get exposed to plot elements all the time. Doesn't create too many experts on the subjects.
In America, fair country, where the folks are so stupid,
there once was a man named Steven Blankenship.
He maintained a website, where he spouted his bullshit,
crying "Whatever I don't like is Satanic lies!"
Satanic lies, Satanic lies, whatever he hates he says is Satanic.
He was a fearmonger, and that was no wonder.
All of his coreligionists were fearmongers, too.
He maintained a website, where he spouted his bullshit,
crying "Whatever I don't like is Satanic lies!"
He lived miserably, 'cause no one believed him,
because what he said was such obvious crap.
For he was a fearmonger, but that was no longer,
for it's hard to do so when no one falls for it.
Satanic lies, Satanic lies, he blamed this on a bunch of Satanic lies.
"A local Wiccan has said that the practices shown are consistent with real witchcraft."
You didn't bother to get a name for us did you?
Take a tip from His-4-Life. If you're going to make up lies, at least make them entertaining.
Even assuming that Harry Potter is a Wiccan, so what? How is it a violation of church/state separation or constitute "pushing" Wicca to simply have a Wiccan character in a fantasy book? Should we remove all books that happy to have Christian heroes, too? Unless schools are teaching Harry Potter as fact and having Harry Potter magic classes (and not as a fun diversion but as a serious area of study) I don't see how this can be seen as pushing religion in school.
Yes, the schools and libraries are pushing a religion by promoting Potter!
My school library had copies of the bible, so I think that evens it out.
A local Wiccan has said that the practices shown are consistent with real witchcraft.
Bullshit. Doesn't matter anyway, since it's all made up nonsense.
"A local Wiccan has said that the practices shown are consistent with real witchcraft."
I don't know who you were talking to, but I'm pretty sure that Wiccan ceremonies are not done using pseudo-Latinized English.
OF COURSE it's just fantasy. That is what the genre Fantasy is all about, stupid!
There is power in believing in yourself, in trusting your friends and working together, yes.
What is so devilish about that?
I'm pretty sure this guy's a poe. None of these arguments are new.
That said, these claims and the rest from this guy's site have been made in all seriousness by some people.
Were JK Rowling Wiccan, you might have a leg to stand on. A very feeble leg, but at least it would be something. Of course, Rowling is not Wiccan.
And anyway, the Wiccan Rede is as follows: "An it harm none, do what ye will". How very... satanic .
Then there's the Rule of Three - whatever energy you put into the world, positive or negative, will come back to you threefold. No wonder you're afraid of Wiccans, Mr. Blankenship, I'd fear being on the receiving end of three times your bullshit too.
the power is in what it does to your soul.
Yeah, absolutely nothing, so who gives a shit?
Wiccan (witchcraft) is a legally recognized religion by the IRS and the US military.
*headdesk*
WICCA IS A RELIGION. WITCHCRAFT IS NOT A RELIGION. WHEN WILL PEOPLE GET IT STRAIGHT?
A local Wiccan has said that the practices shown are consistent with real witchcraft.
Either they're cherry-picking what this person actually said, or they picked one helluva fluffy bunny.
Witches themselves say there is indeed power in witchcraft - and God agrees with them!
Odin can do you one better - he occasionally dabbles in witchcraft (specifically, seidh).
In Harry Potter, wizardry is essentially a superpower that a small amount of people have. Apart from herbs and astrology (and even those are fictionalized) the majority of stuff in Harry Potter isn't consistent with real witchcraft. Spells are more like prayers, not like instant actions.
I want the source for this "local Wiccan," but then I know you made her up because even the worst of fluff bunnies don't think you can actually wave a wand and make something happen right away.
Sorry, Steve, my roaring lions all seem to be after Purina, 9-Lives, milk, cream, and the odd bit of ground beef. They don't seem to find my soul appetizing at all.
Oh, join this century, where if the good guys say something has bad messages, it's evil, but they're not you, so it's okay.
Yes, and there is a world, just beyond our reach, where people's souls are outside their bodies in the form of animal spirits called daemons.
If you concentrate hard enough, your daemon will appear outside your body, and you can talk to them and interact with them. It's all to do with dark matter, which some people call Dust.
I know a young man it happened to, Will Parry, a doctor, lodges in Oxford with a middle aged physicists, once a nun, called Mary Malone, who can also see her daemon.
I know, but why should Jo Rowling have all the anti-god fame? In His Dark Materials, a senile old deity is killed off, after being retired from leading an army that kills off any hope and free thought in every universe, and Satan stands for knowledge while god is for fear and endless immaturity. That's a lot more frightening than casting spells.
"Yes, the schools and libraries are pushing a religion by promoting Potter!"
I would be willing to wager money that this person has never read a HP book. HP never promotes wiccans or any other religion.
"A local Wiccan has said that the practices shown are consistent with real witchcraft."
The best fantasy books use what is already in the zeitgeist and use common experiences and imply deeper meaning.
"The question is, what is the source of that power?"
a better question would be "Is there any evidence that power exists"
"Your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour - 1 Peter 5:8"
What does that quote have to do with anything? It's so generic you could slap it on anything you disagree wi... oh. I see. Well played, tool. Well played.
I have the power to make chairs fly across the room. I can just pick up a chair and throw it to the other side of the room.
I also have the power to refrain from doing that. This is a good thing because I don't want to break my stuff.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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