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Is it not apparent that the Bible Scriptures advocate discrimination, intolerance and the DEATH PENALTY concerning homosexuality? Then is not the Title of this writing true? If the very title made you angry, then this author must ask you the same question the Apostle Paul once asked: "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" Galatians 4:16 (KJV).

For those who hate the truth, anyone who proclaims it they will also hate and will consider such a one an enemy. They will accuse their enemy of HATE and INTOLERANCE when in fact, it is they who hate and cannot tolerate the truth. For such people no amount of reason, patience or love will make the truth palatable to them unless they first repent.

There are others who may not hate truth but are so far removed or confused concerning it, that when it's heard, it sounds RADICAL and EXTREME. Many in America's Judeo-Christian church world fall in this category. Because such people have been taught that being a radical or extremist is evil, they tend to reject any truth that, to them and their surroundings, seems radical or extreme.

Once this author spoke to a political science class at a University and was billed as a right wing extremist. So the question was asked of the students, "How many Christians are there in the audience?" About half the hands went up. Next it was asked, "How many radicals, extremists or intolerant people are in the audience?" and not one hand was raised. What a contradiction.

All the people who claimed to be followers of Jesus Christ also claimed not to be what He was. Frankly, He was willing to withstand public scorn and ridicule for truth (Matthew 27:40,41), offend people if necessary (Matthew 15:12) and even die for what He believed in. As for tolerance, he would not tolerate such people as the money changers and actually confronted them physically. (John 2:14,15) Obviously, He was a radical and an extremist to the virtuous, so-called Christian in the Jude-Christian churches, it all seems to unchristian.

The truth of the matter is, in one respect, homosexuals are far more virtuous than are the lukewarm, cowardly, goody two shoes, praise the Lord Judeo-Christians. Homosexuals are willing to:

* Promote their life style
* Endorse public scorn and rejection if necessary
* Rally to the aid of another homosexual
* Fight any who oppose their life style and
* As we shall see in this writing, are willing to prescribe the death penalty to those who oppose them.

Unlike the modern day, lukewarm Judeo-Christian, they are radicals and extremists. To Jesus they are far more acceptable than the lukewarm Judeo-Christian. "I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I would that you were cold or hot. So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth." Revelation 3:15,16 (NASV)

This writing will be opposed as much by those who call themselves Christians as by homosexuals. They will try to reason or explain away these Bible verses that discriminate against and prescribe the death penalty for homosexuals. So in this writing, their futile objections and explanations will be answered.

Pastor Peter J. Peters, LaPorte Church of Christ 50 Comments [4/22/2012 9:15:47 AM]
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"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

You tell the truth about the contents of the Bible, perhaps, but not reality. For that, yes, you do become my enemy, you and anyone else who thinks that awful book to be the source of all morality. Stick your unjust, intolerant and harmful beliefs up your arse.

4/22/2012 9:23:11 AM

Tatch

"...because I tell the truth."

Yeah, really really really believing something you say does not make it "the truth." You religious folks have got to stop thinking this. Really, really, really believing in something != knowing it!

4/22/2012 9:27:30 AM

mrsyoungie

Like I'm really going to take seriously a writer who mistakenly takes quotes from a satirical article about the gay agenda (Google: Michael Swift, "Gay Revolutionary")

4/22/2012 9:41:51 AM

Filin De Blanc

So Jesus prefers gays to moderate Christians?

4/22/2012 9:42:02 AM

Voice of Humanity

You're forgetting a great deal of us not beholden to the Christ in the first place, but instead owe loyalty to their fellow human, their neighbors above all doctrine, dogma, and your filthy eldtrich terror of a god. Say what you like, as others have said it is within your right. But don't think for a moment We'd sit back and watch you follow through with hurting our brothers and sisters and dashing infants on rocks.

4/22/2012 9:42:24 AM

Mayhem


4/22/2012 9:43:16 AM

Zimmer

It seems like the kind of world this guy would prefer to live in is one where people immediately try to kill each other over any difference in opinion.

I think that in itself is even more repulsive than his homophobia.

4/22/2012 10:02:02 AM

Firewing

"...are willing to prescribe the death penalty to those who oppose them. "

No, Peters. You do not get to project your bloodlust on others. I don't care if it's a standard Christian tactic, you do not get to do it. We are not as petty as you. You can coexist with us. You'll just have to recognize for once in your life that it's not all about you and what you want. That you share the world with other people.

I realize that this scares you, but try not to be such a petulant child about it.

4/22/2012 10:03:33 AM


Leighton Buzzard

Am I right in thinking Pastor Peter Pillock has fallen victim to Poe's Law?

Incidentally Pete, no such things as Judeo-Christian churches. Jews don't do churches.

4/22/2012 10:24:09 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Who submitted the out-of-date quote?

In any case, I have found that the only people who hate the truth are fundies and other extremists.

4/22/2012 11:05:26 AM

Rageaholic

I suspect POE, but if this isn't, it's a grear (though extreme example) of everything I hate about fundamentalism.

-Say something barbaric and offensive, using biblical support.
-Claim that the reason people get angry is that they can't handle "The Truth".
-Accuse those Christians who don't share your extreme views as being lukewarm and too weak.
-Claim that Jesus was crucified and persecuted for being a bigotted asshole like yourself.
-Fullfil your warrior/martyr complex by alienating as many people as possible and then claim persecution, just like Jesus was. In reality, you are just being an asshole hating on people because a book tells you to. (or atleast your interpretatin of it)

Fundymentalism in a nutshell.

4/22/2012 11:20:26 AM

Agahnim

Death penalty + criminal = corpse that can't be punished. Sorry, but crapital punishment is 100% revenge, not justice.

4/22/2012 11:20:56 AM

Lucilius

If only "the Bible Scriptures" mandated death for arrogant stupidity, we'd have no fundies to deal with.

4/22/2012 11:21:15 AM

John

This writing will be opposed as much by those who call themselves Christians as by homosexuals. They will try to reason or explain away these Bible verses that discriminate against and prescribe the death penalty for homosexuals.

No, they'll ask why you're so obsessed with the rules against homosexuality and not all the other OT stuff Christians themselves have "explained away". Fundies don't look to the Bible for guidance; they form their opinions first and cherry-pick it to confirm them.

4/22/2012 11:26:44 AM

TheJebusFire

Is it not apparent that the Bible Scriptures advocate discrimination, intolerance and the DEATH PENALTY concerning homosexuality?
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Homosexuals are willing to:
* As we shall see in this writing, are willing to prescribe the death penalty to those who oppose them.



lul wut.

4/22/2012 11:55:25 AM

Doubting Thomas

"Waaaah! People don't hate gays as much as I do!"

It is great comfort to know that Peter J. Peters is deceased. Not just because of his anti-gay hatred, but his racism as well.

Just for the record, Pete Peters was no Poe. He was one of the most virulent, hate-filled Christian Identity preachers who ever existed.

4/22/2012 11:55:48 AM

Papabear

"Is it not apparent that the Bible Scriptures advocate discrimination, intolerance and the DEATH PENALTY concerning homosexuality?"

That an ancient collection of stories advocates discrimination, intolerance and the DEATH PENALTY is irrelevant.

"...the Apostle Paul once asked: "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

The problem with using that to support a position is that Paul admitted he was a liar. And, even so, he offers no proof that what he presents as the truth is actually true.

"* Promote their life style
* Endorse public scorn and rejection if necessary
* Rally to the aid of another homosexual
* Fight any who oppose their life style and
* As we shall see in this writing, are willing to prescribe the death penalty to those who oppose them"

All of which your lot present as laudable when applied to Christians rather than homosexuals, so, essentially, you're complaining that homosexuals (except for same-sex relationships) behave as you do.

"This writing will be opposed as much by those who call themselves Christians as by homosexuals. They will try to reason or explain away these Bible verses that discriminate against and prescribe the death penalty for homosexuals."

No, I start with asserting that the Bible has no authority and that your God doesn't exist. After you prove your God exists, we can quibble over Bible verses.

4/22/2012 11:56:27 AM

OhJohnNo

What a profoundly odd person.

4/22/2012 12:02:04 PM

Osiris

For those of you wanting to call Poe, sorry. Peter J. Peters was totally for real.

4/22/2012 12:08:43 PM

checkmate

Is it not apparent that the Bible Scriptures advocate discrimination, intolerance and the DEATH PENALTY concerning homosexuality?

Even if it does, who gives a shit what the Bible says about anything?

Once this author spoke to a KKK rally. The question was asked of the hood bearers, "How many patriots are there in the audience?" All the hands went up. Next it was asked, "How many radicals, extremists or intolerant people are in the audience?" and not one hand was raised. What a contradiction.

See, the KKK is just a bunch of patriots.

Now there is a difference, Pastor Pete: not all Christians are like you. Christian /= Christian. In fact, the vast majority of Christians are quite alright. It's just you and your fundamental lot that are so shitty.

4/22/2012 12:10:08 PM

Skatepunk

So... you say that gays deserve the death penalty based on a Bible verse, and it's moderate Christians and gays who are the bad guys?

4/22/2012 12:14:01 PM

John_in_Oz

I knew you had two peters even before I saw your name. You couldn't get that crazy playing with just one.

4/22/2012 12:42:07 PM

Zeus Almighty

Yes, those damn intolerant homos! Just look at this verse from The Gay Bible:
"If a man also lie with womankind, as he lieth with a man, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

See?

4/22/2012 1:06:55 PM

Zeus Almighty

Yes, those damn intolerant homos! Just look at this verse from The Gay Bible:
"If a man also lie with womankind, as he lieth with a man, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

See?

4/22/2012 1:34:37 PM
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