Quote# 87048

The problem is that E=mc2 does not meaning anythimg that makes sense. Anyone is welcome to try to explain it here. Eating a pound of cake does not cause one's energy to increase by the speed of light squared.

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 103 Comments [4/23/2012 3:00:59 AM]
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If only Andy had been around when Einstein was working, he could've pointed out to him all his errors. "Gott in Himmel, vot vos I thinking! That verdammte Schlafly is right! Vy didn't I think of eating cake to test ze hypothesis!"

4/24/2012 1:49:12 PM

Night Jaguar

I believe you, Andy, that it doesn't make sense to you. But that says more about you than about special relativity.

4/24/2012 2:49:00 PM


Andy doesn't understand the difference between chemical and nuclear reactions.

The energy derived from a piece of cake is gained by pushing electrons around via nuclear reactions. Exactly no mass is converted into energy.

The energy derived from a pound of uranium is derived from atomic nuclei breaking into smaller fragments. During the fragmentation process, some of the mass of the fragments is turned into energy. The equation E=mc^2 describes the quantitative relationship between energy and mass--to wit, a very small amount of mass makes a very large amount of energy.

But then, Andy thinks that moral relativism is somehow connected to the theory of relativity, so explaining the difference is useless. I wonder if he has the same problem some Objectivists have with quantum mechanics and causality?

4/24/2012 3:05:35 PM

Big Jilm

That's because you're stupid, squared.

4/24/2012 6:43:51 PM


If you ate a pound of antimatter cake your energy would increase by a pound times the speed of light squared.

In fact, since the pound of antimatter in the cake would annihilate a pound of normal matter in your body, the total amount of energy liberated would be TWO pounds times the speed of light squared.

I wholeheartedly encourage you to try this experiment, Andy. I'll even supply the antimatter.

4/24/2012 6:58:10 PM


@ Shax : You wrote:

"The energy derived from a piece of cake is gained by pushing electrons around via nuclear reactions. Exactly no mass is converted into energy."

Assuming you're talking about the energy dreived from metabolizing the cake, chemically, inside the eater's body -- I have to disagree with you there.

A VERY VERY SMALL amount of matter is converted into energy, even during an ordinary chemical reaction. The electron configurations in the CO2 and water that come out of metabolizing the cake have a teeny teeny tiny bit less mass than the electron configurations in the cake and oxygen that went in. (The electrons are orbiting the nuclei slightly more slowly, and thus have slightly less relativistic mass.)

The difference is on the order of 0.000000000001% .

4/24/2012 7:20:08 PM


@tracer: okay, I stand corrected. My chem professors in college said as much, so I really should have been more precise.

And like you, they also said that the difference in mass was so miniscule that it barely even existed, and in most chemical reactions the lost mass was all but impossible to measure. But nevertheless, a very, very, very, very tiny bit of mass WAS converted into energy every time a chemical reaction took place. From that standpoint, ultimately all reactions are fundamentally nuclear reactions.

But there again, we're talking about Shaftfly here. Since he doesn't seem to understand the difference between chemical and nuclear reactions and regularly rants, bitches and screams about the liberal anti-Christian bias of basic math, he's not going to be able to comprehend the difference anyway.

4/24/2012 7:49:32 PM

Raised by Horses

Oh, Andy. Every time we think you've hit intellectual rock bottom, you manage to prove us wrong once again. I don't know how you do it.

4/24/2012 10:53:08 PM

A White Dude With AIDS

Are you... a yoshi? Or just STUPID, Andrew?

4/25/2012 6:14:16 AM


It makes sense to me, Andy, but I'm not a fuckwitted retard pretending to be a science teacher. I actually have an understanding of physics.
By the way, if E=mc2 doesn't work, how did they get that atommic bomb to work?

4/25/2012 9:51:56 AM

amdy, you are a trained engineer with a degree and verything. Eating a pound of cake is basic chemistry, e = mc2 relates to the total energy if that mass were converted.

4/25/2012 11:25:06 AM


Andy's logic: "I dun understand it, therefore it is false. And if you don't agree with me, you are a LIBERUL!"

4/25/2012 12:13:40 PM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

Andy Shitfly should be forced to eat a pound of cake — specifically, yellow cake uranium.

4/25/2012 1:01:01 PM


Schlafly = Moron2

Hilarious moment: further down the page, one of Schlafly's drones tries to claim that subatomic particles don't exist. Apparently because they aren't in the bible (as far as I can tell from context).

4/25/2012 1:16:50 PM


I am pretty sure some of that mass comes out the other end in the form of a Schlafly.

4/25/2012 3:32:23 PM


I wouldn't dream of trying to explain anything to Andy. It would be easier to piss up a rope.

4/26/2012 5:49:32 AM

Yama the Space Fish

That's how much energy you get if you convert the whole thing to energy.

4/26/2012 12:54:41 PM


Andy, Einstein was one of the smartest men who ever lived. You, on the other hand, are a non-entity whose blog is regarded as a joke even by most conservatives.

4/26/2012 2:02:39 PM


Andy Shcafly said it. Case closed.

4/26/2012 6:57:35 PM

A Physicist

You insipid idiot. What otherworldly narcotics are you on? The eqiation has survived decades of scientific scrutinity, you heven't survived a single moment of such. Get yourself a scoence degree, learn something, pry open that calcified object you call a brain, and then return with you mindless false.equivalencies.

A physicist.

4/27/2012 8:16:12 PM



make that a few pounds of antimatter cake. just to be sure.

4/30/2012 3:15:36 PM

silly rabbit

Honestly this aschlafly (assfly) is just trying to start shit by saying dumb things........... or maybe he really is this stupid... all of a sudden I'm very scared

5/2/2012 11:49:37 AM

Mrs. Antichrist

@silly rabbit


He really is that terrifyingly stupid.

5/2/2012 5:58:02 PM


According to Wiki, this imbecile is a lawyer! Can this be true?

And why would the formula be ungodly anyway?

9/25/2012 10:34:23 PM


I don't understand it, either, but that doesn't mean it makes no sense. It only means that it is too complicated for my brain, but at least I freely admit it.

9/26/2012 12:25:14 AM

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