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There is no evidence at all that the homosexual was born that way. I guarantee you I was. I was born this way. I was born black, I’m living black, I’m going to die black.

You know we find out there’re criminal genes, they say, in some people. But do you know how to get rid of criminal gene? Two parents with a belt [laughs] gets rid of the criminal gene.

Discipline, understanding, good parenting removes the homosexual gene.

Ken Hutcherson, Pam's House Blend 62 Comments [4/23/2012 3:10:16 AM]
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Secretly Pagan

Repost.

4/23/2012 3:16:33 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

Stupid beyond measure.

4/23/2012 3:50:00 AM

Kulgur

Children who are beaten are MORE likely to be criminal than others, not less.

And you can't beat homosexuality out of them, either, any more than you can beat them white.

4/23/2012 4:33:47 AM



Folksy platitudes solve everything.

4/23/2012 4:41:34 AM

Brendan Rizzo

That is most definitely not how genetics works. Lamarck was WRONG, creationists!

Also referring to a diverse group of people in the singular is almost a guaranteed signal that the speaker is prejudiced against said group. Antisemites never say "Jews are running the world behind the scenes", they always say "THE JEW is running the world behind the scenes", as if there was only one of them. (Which, of course, explains precisely why bigots think the way they do.) I don't think I've ever seen anyone opposed to fundamentalism say "The fundamentalist is stupid beyond measure", they always use the plural. That's because rational people understand that stereotyping is wrong.

4/23/2012 4:53:59 AM

Tatch

>Removing genes.
Wut? I'm calling Poe.

If not, discipline and "good parenting" does not remove homosexuality. It creates a self-hating crusader who can't cope with his homosexuality and thus turns all of his cooped up sexual energy towards shit like oppressing other gays.

4/23/2012 5:07:10 AM

Mister Spak

" I was born black, I’m living black, I’m going to die black. "



And gays are born gay, they are living gay, and they'll die gay.

4/23/2012 5:22:12 AM

Beeblebrox

What kind of beating do I need to remove this pesky diabetes gene?

4/23/2012 5:29:46 AM

Doubting Thomas

So you're suggesting to beat the gay out of our kids?

Actually, understanding is what makes people realize that they're born that way. It doesn't matter how good a parent you are, your kids still have a roughly 10% chance of being gay.

4/23/2012 5:38:24 AM

ChakatBlackstar

So bad parenting leads to homosexuality? I dare you to say that to my mother's face. I'll be filming the results for youtube.

4/23/2012 5:48:41 AM

TheLastCenturion

two parents with a belt will only exacerbate the problem. either the child will become submissive, and the rage will slowly build over time and the kid is a ticking time bomb, or the child will become immediately enraged and retaliate against the parents. thats if the kid has a "criminal" gene.

Self-Control is the most valuable lesson you could ever teach a kid like that.

the homosexuality gene, cannot be removed either way, just like the criminal gene. all you would do to your child is scar them emotionally. then it ends in one of 2 ways: suicide, or they hate you until the day they day.

4/23/2012 5:55:31 AM

dionysus

Or, more likely, the two parents with a belt will give their (still gay) kid a lifelong BDSM fetish.

4/23/2012 6:23:36 AM

Extraintrovert

"There is no evidence at all that the homosexual was born that way."

Except that there is. A lot of it, actually. Also evidence that numerous other species are born that way (insert Lady Gaga joke). AND a lot of evidence that people who are forced to deny parts of themselves, be it sexual orientation or something else, suffer debilitating mental problems later in life. Like thinking that "good parenting" can somehow change how someone is*, which is sheer insanity.

*Along with the implication that Hutcherson thinks he's a good parent when he is quite obviously not.

4/23/2012 6:28:14 AM

Psycho Tits

1) Oh, look! Another witless idiot who thinks everything he doesn't like can be scoured away by a continual program of violence.

2) Homosexuality exists across the animal kingdom. We're animals, too. (And why the hell should anyone care if gays want to marry one another? Let them. They can't do any worse by the institution than straight people have. Have you taken a gander at the divorce rates lately?)

3) Even if homosexuality were a choice, so is religion - so unless you like the idea of having your religious freedom taken away because you chose it (as opposed to its having been in-born), then you might want to reconsider your stance. Remember: Everything you do - everything you advocate for others - will eventually make its way back to you. And in your case, because you can’t be bothered to follow the Golden Rule, your own policies will be back around to bite you in the ass.

4) Criminal gene? It's a delicate mixture of genetics - and not just one gene, but multiple genes working in consort - that help to form the individual. If "criminal genes" - and exactly how does one define a criminal anyway: As a person who breaks civil and criminal laws? Or are political dissents and homosexuals included as well? - are ever found to exist, that would in no way guarantee the person carrying them is going to become a criminal. Genetics! How the fuck does it work?

But one thing is certain: If the potential criminal - cursed by "bad genes" or merely raised in a bad environment - were to grow up in a violent household where punishment is dealt out with the belt and where non-violent coping strategies are never taught, that might be just the stimulus required to push him over the deep end.

So congrats, dipshit; you fail on every possible level.

4/23/2012 6:37:53 AM

Horsefeathers

"There is no evidence at all that the homosexual was born that way."

Then you must also concede that there is no evidence that heterosexuals are born that way either since, according to people such as yourself, sexuality is apparently a learned trait.

"You know we find out there’re criminal genes, they say, in some people. But do you know how to get rid of criminal gene? Two parents with a belt [laughs] gets rid of the criminal gene."

Either that or you end up with a more violent criminal than you would have had.

I'd rather have a white collar criminal embezzling money from his employer than the monster you would create.

"Discipline, understanding, good parenting removes the homosexual gene."

How, prey tell, does one get rid of the Fundy Gene? If you could tackle that one first, we'd all be better off and wouldn't have to worry about these other genes.

4/23/2012 6:48:43 AM



So, the studies that show that the more boys born to one mother, the greater the chance with each successive new boy that he will be gay have to do with the mother's parenting skills, and not biological causes? Yes, I can see your logic here.

4/23/2012 6:49:47 AM

Dr. Razark

"the homosexual"? Which one are we talking about? Does he (or she) have a name? Wouldn't it be more useful for you to tell us which homosexual you're talking about?

By the way, how old were you when you decided to be heterosexual?

4/23/2012 6:51:25 AM

Mayhem

"There is no evidence at all that the homosexual was born that way. I guarantee you I was. I was born this way. I was born black, I’m living black, I’m going to die black."


4/23/2012 6:59:18 AM



"I guarantee you I was. I was born this way. I was born black, I’m living black, I’m going to die black."

Non sequitur; what skin color you have is irrelevant, and not what we're talking about. But nonetheless, two words: Michael Jackson.

"You know we find out there’re criminal genes, they say, in some people. But do you know how to get rid of criminal gene? Two parents with a belt gets rid of the criminal gene."

Even if a "criminal gene" existed, beating the shit out of someone does NOT remove any genetic data you personally dislike about the person.

"Discipline, understanding, good parenting removes the homosexual gene."

But you said it doesn't exist...but anyway, people are born with unique traits and quirks. Nothing you're ever going to do is change that. This is just an excuse to, legally, bully your own child.

4/23/2012 7:10:39 AM

Agahnim

There is no evidence at all that the fundie was born that way. I guarantee you that you weren't. You were not born this way. You were born atheist, you're living fundie, and you're going to die and go into a wooden box in the ground.

4/23/2012 7:32:26 AM

Anon-e-moose

"Discipline, understanding, good parenting removes the homosexual gene."

Wow. I never realised that a specific kind of domestic nurturing atmosphere was a method of gene-splicing?! [/smartarse]

And if 'discipline' can remove the homosexual gene, via use of a belt...



...then I guess use of a cluebat called 'Escaliborg' by the Angel of Death Dokuro-chan, can eliminate fundieness & stupidity - and Escaliborg can resurrect the one this cluebat was used upon from a messy stain on the floor, walls & ceiling, back to intact person via the spell 'Pi-piru-piru-piru-pi-piru-pi!'; repeat as many times as required, until clue is gotten, and and inferior fundie-based bigotry is eliminated. >:D

4/23/2012 7:39:44 AM

Thinking Allowed

Someone failed biology.

4/23/2012 8:00:28 AM

rebel

Uh, ever hear of Micheal Jackson? Also, two parents with a belt sounds like the beginnings of creating a sociopath......

4/23/2012 8:03:31 AM

Lucilius

Apparently nothing can remove the "stupid gene."

4/23/2012 8:36:22 AM

JohnTheAtheist

You were born straight I am assuming so why do you dismiss the possibility that people are born with a tendency to be attracted to the same sex? And furthermore, who the fuck cares why people are gay anyway?

4/23/2012 8:54:10 AM
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