I don't know what was more despicable about McCarthy: that he made baseless accusations against anyone he didn't like, almost certainly causing severe damage to their career if not their entire lives, or that he encouraged a climate of hate and fear where having differing political beliefs marked oneself as a target of persecution.
Oh, and BarbT is a nitwit.
4/27/2012 4:15:11 AM
Joe McCarthy was a drunken liar who created a state of paranoia in the USA, one that never has quite ended.
Perhaps this BarbT needed to research...oh, wait. From 'RR'?
4/27/2012 4:18:53 AM
If intelligence is a contagion, you have thankfully avoided it.
4/27/2012 4:49:02 AM
You do realise that we all know why you lot hate teachers, writers and artists, right? You're pissed at everyone smarter than you.
Which, given that you're actually defending McCarthy, would be just about everyone.
4/27/2012 4:53:24 AM
MI6. Discovered the real communist infiltrators working in Great Britain, with no witch-hunt required.
Your argument is invalid.
4/27/2012 4:54:28 AM
Joe McCarthy was a communist. The things he did were intended to discredit America.
4/27/2012 5:21:26 AM
Annie Coulter, is that you?
4/27/2012 5:22:31 AM
@ Brendan: Trouble with that was, half of MI6 were the Communist infiltrators, and it took 30 years to dig them all out. And that before we even get to their No, Minister, Hitler isn't an immediate threat, and No, Minister, Argentina will never invade the Falklands, and No, Minister, the USSR isn't going to collapse any day soon ... Spooks? Boobs.
4/27/2012 5:30:17 AM
It tickles my funny bone when a Raptard accuses others of being mindless.
BTW. Can anyone name one illegal act committed by any of those who had their lives destroyed by McCarthy?
4/27/2012 5:42:54 AM
Will Geer was also bi, I believe.
4/27/2012 5:44:00 AM
Of course, in the 1940s and 50s there really were Communists working as Soviet agents in the USA, and McCarthy didn't uncover any of them: the FBI did.
4/27/2012 5:57:28 AM
Rob aka Mediancat
Defending Joe McCarthy is pretty much prima facie evidence that nothing you say is worth listening to.
4/27/2012 6:03:15 AM
You know what? It's never, ever been illegal to be a communist in this country. In fact, the U.S. Constitution requires that the government protect the rights of people with communist beliefs, too, so it was Joe McCarthy who was anti-American. "Communist" does not mean "spy."
4/27/2012 6:07:08 AM
That's right, Barb. The professors, journalsists, and other educated people are the mindless ones, and you're smarter than all of those braiwashed commie double-agents.
4/27/2012 6:26:57 AM
(a) There was nothing illegal about being a communist - only actually aiding and supporting the Soviet Union.
(b) McCarthy didn't just go after registered communists. He went after anyone whose politics he disagreed with.
(c) Publicly attacking someone for being a communist was, in those days, like publicly attacking someone for being a child-molester. Even when the charge was false, the person's life was ruined. McCarthy knew this and used it.
4/27/2012 6:34:22 AM
So, McCarthy was a hero and it's a good idea to ruin someone's career because of his/her political beliefs?
Did you ever notice (channeling Andy Rooney)that the people afraid of "elites" are those least likely to be comsidered elite... in any way? Uneducated, unaware, not very smart, easily misled sheeple worried about having leaders who might be brighter than they are.
4/27/2012 7:47:40 AM
Filin De Blanc
Classic Rapture Ready. Fascists, the lot of them.
4/27/2012 8:00:38 AM
"Joe McCarthy was a hero whose name was smeared by very real Communists who had infiltrated influential areas of American life."
O RLY? And how many actual Soviet moles were uncovered in all of McCarthy's bluff, bluster and bigotry against those who weren't exactly like him & his ilk, BarbT? I'll tell you:
However, poetic justice prevailed. In his desperation to root out supposed 'Reds under the bed', his increasing insanity based on his unjustifiable paranoia got the better of him, and he turned his eye towards the US military. Where said unjustifiable paranoia ultimately blew up in his own face. As a result, his political allies & backing in the GOP dried up. He was regarded as one would if a skidmark was found on a towel, and dropped just as quickly. He became an alcoholic. A nobody. He became the very thing he'd made, nay forced, thousands of innocent Americans into being: a pariah. His FAIL was complete - with not a single Soviet 'agent' to show for his 'efforts'.
...on the other hand, here in the UK, there was the 'Cambridge Five':
Actual Soviet moles: Burgess, Philby, Maclean, Blunt & Cairncross.
They were exposed by MI6 & their operatives with nary a peep out of anyone, nor bothering anyone. The only time it came to the public's attention was when their trials were covered by the press. Even then, there was the evidence collated by MI6 etc, to make such an open & shut case. No unjustifiable 'paranoia' required.
Britain succeeds where the US FAILS. Oh, and today? For the last several years, MI6 have recruited people to investigate - and even infiltrate - Al-Qaeda cells here in the UK and abroad.
I love the smell of annihilated arguments in the morning. Smells like... victory.
Oh, and as for 'college professors and "elite" writers', inferiority complex much, Teabaggers...?:
Stupidity. Along with 'hoemskuling', it should be illegal.
Then you wonder why China is set to overtake the US in scientific R&D in the next two years? I'd say that the last thing you should be doing now is insult your existing college professors and elites, who are keeping your country ahead of the rest of the world.
Moral: The ultimate irony? Despite all that McCarthy tried to do, there still exists to this day a Communist Party of America:
And Federal law means that they can't even be touched
4/27/2012 8:36:59 AM
No, Raptard, just no.
4/27/2012 8:55:57 AM
4/27/2012 9:03:38 AM
Umm, she does know he was an evil, paranoid man who accused anyone of anything, right? He's not some misunderstood anti-hero. He was a terrible person!
4/27/2012 9:20:08 AM
Yet these are the same people that scream about evul libruls trampling on the constitution all day.
4/27/2012 9:34:52 AM
No she doesn't know that. In right wing retard land McCarthy is a hero. Sort of a combination of George Bush The Best President Ever and Batman.
4/27/2012 9:37:56 AM
I've looked at various politically motivated and outspoken individuals in the USA, and I have yet to see what I would consider a Marxist. You have a few that could pass as socialists, but outright commies? Nah.
Of course, when your viewpoint is to the far right of the spectrum, even the middle starts to look like the left.
All I get from your rant is that you're an ignorant, bigoted, tea-tard.
4/27/2012 10:04:12 AM
You idolize Joe McCarthy? That's a better insult than anything I could come up with.
4/27/2012 10:19:32 AM