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[Aschlafly, two protons (1.0073amu) and two neutrons (1.0087amu) have a combined mass of 4.0320 amu. An alpha-particle - existing from two protons and two neutrons - has a mass of 4.0015 amu. How do you explain this diminution of mass?]

What real evidence do you have that these particles even exist? No doubt you've read it in a book or some "qualified person" has said it is true. In reality you accept these things on the word of somebody else - in other words your belief in the existence of these particles is a matter of scientific faith in something which you have no personal knowledge. There is obviously no problem with believing things on faith, but please don't pretend it's "true because science says it's true". Christians get their real truth from a higher authority.-

DavidEdwards , Conservapedia 46 Comments [4/30/2012 3:28:27 AM]
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...and if you had the right tools, you could observe and test them too. Kind of a "see for yourself" attitude.

Now how do we do that with your god and the bible?

4/30/2012 3:34:36 AM


Yes, but some people do understand the science behind this, and they come to a consensus. You could look into any of these fields for yourself, if you really wanted to. You appear to be suggesting some bizarre conspiracy amongst all physicists.
Plus "please don't pretend it's "true because science says it's true"" measured a solid 9.8 on the irony scale. At least science has something more than the scribblings of some nomadic goat-herders to back it up.

4/30/2012 3:56:44 AM


The original poster needs to dumb down the language; it's clear that Andy didn't understand so he resorted to the standard "if you can't see them yourself, then it must be about faith."

4/30/2012 4:00:29 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

4/30/2012 4:03:59 AM


"What real evidence do you have that these particles even exist? No doubt you've read it in a book or some "qualified person" has said it is true."

Crap, my irony meter almost didn't survive that one.

"Christians get their real truth from a higher authority."


4/30/2012 4:07:01 AM

Christians get their real truth from a higher authority.

One brief look at Conservapedia makes it painfully obvious that the higher authority in question is none other than Andy's stinky cornhole.

4/30/2012 4:11:48 AM


*cough cough* Ack! Irony meters exploding everywhere!

Translation of ASchlafly's answer: "Not a clue, so here is a steaming pile of manure to distract you...I hope."

Andy, chances are that "qualified person" put in a far greater number of hours to research and investigate and...I don't know...observe his or her work!
You know, that thing that makes science, science?


4/30/2012 4:13:13 AM


If sub-atomic particles didn't exist there'd be nothing of the right size to compare your intelligence to.

4/30/2012 4:23:09 AM

Mister Spak

Since you have no evidence that these particles exist, you should get off the internet now because it is powered by these particles (electricity is moving electrons).


4/30/2012 5:23:38 AM


it's a warzone out there! irony-meters blowing up left right and centre, brains melting, the stupid burning faces off... oh, wait, conservapedia, nevermind, carry on

4/30/2012 5:25:54 AM


Chapter and verse please from the babble!

4/30/2012 5:26:49 AM


If this had come from Andy, I could appreciate its insanity, but this comes off as too level-headed and (very loosely) reasoned, even if it is total bullshit. I think this is a parodist.

4/30/2012 5:39:07 AM


There is virtually nothing in this world that is as well documented as the atom. I mean, if the atom doesn't exist, explain the atomic bomb.

4/30/2012 5:41:36 AM


I lol'd.

4/30/2012 5:47:40 AM

Brendan Rizzo

The difference, Mr. Edwards, is that if you had the resources you could, in theory, do stuff with a particle accelerator and see proof of those particles yourself. However, nobody can verify religious miracles. Thus, one is scientific, and the other is not.

4/30/2012 6:01:43 AM


Three words for Andy...

Scanning Tunneling Microscope.

That's all.

4/30/2012 6:12:45 AM


As much as I would love to pile on Schlafly, this particular bit of idiocy is from someone named David Edwards. Although I wouldn't be surprised if this was a sock puppet.

4/30/2012 6:32:04 AM


Holy fuck you are dumb. This shit is beyond satire.

4/30/2012 6:40:27 AM


You're absolutely right, proton and electrons don't exist. Nuclear reactors, atomic bombs, and light bulbs are all powered by wizards and goblins.

4/30/2012 6:50:44 AM


If you can't see it, it doen't exist, so why don't you drink a test tube full of Clostridium botulinum?

4/30/2012 7:00:27 AM

Like-Minded Madman

You think this is insane and ironic? Got nothing on the fact that Schlafy was once a qualified electrician. Electrons form the very basis of electronics. Now THAT is comedy. :D

4/30/2012 7:42:14 AM


Science gets results. Your computer is proof of that. Prayer gets no results. The election of president Obama is proof of that.

Science wins again.

4/30/2012 7:46:07 AM


It's "true" because it's demonstrable and reproducible, unlike world-wide floods, talking snakes, 4-legged insects, etc. etc.

4/30/2012 7:59:26 AM


What real evidence do you have that your G-

Nope. Too easy.

4/30/2012 8:09:18 AM


Andy how does your computer work? Because if the answer turns out to be "the free flow of electrons between atoms" you would turn out be completely bat shit crazy.

4/30/2012 8:35:17 AM

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