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[Aschlafly, two protons (1.0073amu) and two neutrons (1.0087amu) have a combined mass of 4.0320 amu. An alpha-particle - existing from two protons and two neutrons - has a mass of 4.0015 amu. How do you explain this diminution of mass?]

What real evidence do you have that these particles even exist? No doubt you've read it in a book or some "qualified person" has said it is true. In reality you accept these things on the word of somebody else - in other words your belief in the existence of these particles is a matter of scientific faith in something which you have no personal knowledge. There is obviously no problem with believing things on faith, but please don't pretend it's "true because science says it's true". Christians get their real truth from a higher authority.-

DavidEdwards , Conservapedia 43 Comments [4/30/2012 3:28:27 AM]
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#1397807
Mudak

...and if you had the right tools, you could observe and test them too. Kind of a "see for yourself" attitude.

Now how do we do that with your god and the bible?

4/30/2012 3:34:36 AM
#1397819
gravematter

Yes, but some people do understand the science behind this, and they come to a consensus. You could look into any of these fields for yourself, if you really wanted to. You appear to be suggesting some bizarre conspiracy amongst all physicists.
Plus "please don't pretend it's "true because science says it's true"" measured a solid 9.8 on the irony scale. At least science has something more than the scribblings of some nomadic goat-herders to back it up.

4/30/2012 3:56:44 AM
#1397823
Prager

The original poster needs to dumb down the language; it's clear that Andy didn't understand so he resorted to the standard "if you can't see them yourself, then it must be about faith."

4/30/2012 4:00:29 AM
#1397829
Percy Q. Shunn


4/30/2012 4:03:59 AM
#1397833
Extraintrovert

"What real evidence do you have that these particles even exist? No doubt you've read it in a book or some "qualified person" has said it is true."

Crap, my irony meter almost didn't survive that one.

"Christians get their real truth from a higher authority."

ABORT, ABORT, EVACUATE THE FACILITY, ABORT!

4/30/2012 4:07:01 AM
#1397839


Christians get their real truth from a higher authority.

One brief look at Conservapedia makes it painfully obvious that the higher authority in question is none other than Andy's stinky cornhole.

4/30/2012 4:11:48 AM
#1397842
Nerikull

*cough cough* Ack! Irony meters exploding everywhere!

Translation of ASchlafly's answer: "Not a clue, so here is a steaming pile of manure to distract you...I hope."

Andy, chances are that "qualified person" put in a far greater number of hours to research and investigate and...I don't know...observe his or her work!
You know, that thing that makes science, science?

*sigh*

4/30/2012 4:13:13 AM
#1397852
FTR...

If sub-atomic particles didn't exist there'd be nothing of the right size to compare your intelligence to.

4/30/2012 4:23:09 AM
#1397876
Mister Spak

Since you have no evidence that these particles exist, you should get off the internet now because it is powered by these particles (electricity is moving electrons).

Also,


4/30/2012 5:23:38 AM
#1397880
\m/>_<\m/

it's a warzone out there! irony-meters blowing up left right and centre, brains melting, the stupid burning faces off... oh, wait, conservapedia, nevermind, carry on

4/30/2012 5:25:54 AM
#1397881
Tallho

Chapter and verse please from the babble!

4/30/2012 5:26:49 AM
#1397896
hatless

If this had come from Andy, I could appreciate its insanity, but this comes off as too level-headed and (very loosely) reasoned, even if it is total bullshit. I think this is a parodist.

4/30/2012 5:39:07 AM
#1397899
Apatheist

There is virtually nothing in this world that is as well documented as the atom. I mean, if the atom doesn't exist, explain the atomic bomb.

4/30/2012 5:41:36 AM
#1397904
fishtank

I lol'd.

4/30/2012 5:47:40 AM
#1397913
Brendan Rizzo

The difference, Mr. Edwards, is that if you had the resources you could, in theory, do stuff with a particle accelerator and see proof of those particles yourself. However, nobody can verify religious miracles. Thus, one is scientific, and the other is not.

4/30/2012 6:01:43 AM
#1397922
Adey

Three words for Andy...

Scanning Tunneling Microscope.

That's all.

4/30/2012 6:12:45 AM
#1397925
markb

As much as I would love to pile on Schlafly, this particular bit of idiocy is from someone named David Edwards. Although I wouldn't be surprised if this was a sock puppet.

4/30/2012 6:32:04 AM
#1397929
aaa

Holy fuck you are dumb. This shit is beyond satire.

4/30/2012 6:40:27 AM
#1397933
dionysus

You're absolutely right, proton and electrons don't exist. Nuclear reactors, atomic bombs, and light bulbs are all powered by wizards and goblins.

4/30/2012 6:50:44 AM
#1397937
Reynardine

If you can't see it, it doen't exist, so why don't you drink a test tube full of Clostridium botulinum?

4/30/2012 7:00:27 AM
#1397950
Like-Minded Madman

You think this is insane and ironic? Got nothing on the fact that Schlafy was once a qualified electrician. Electrons form the very basis of electronics. Now THAT is comedy. :D

4/30/2012 7:42:14 AM
#1397952
Dr.Shrinker

Science gets results. Your computer is proof of that. Prayer gets no results. The election of president Obama is proof of that.

Science wins again.

4/30/2012 7:46:07 AM
#1397960
Misterboston

It's "true" because it's demonstrable and reproducible, unlike world-wide floods, talking snakes, 4-legged insects, etc. etc.

4/30/2012 7:59:26 AM
#1397968
Zimmer

What real evidence do you have that your G-

Nope. Too easy.

4/30/2012 8:09:18 AM
#1397978
Osiris

Andy how does your computer work? Because if the answer turns out to be "the free flow of electrons between atoms" you would turn out be completely bat shit crazy.

4/30/2012 8:35:17 AM
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