But, if done correctly, the justice system should be to blame for a murderers incarceration.
12/21/2005 5:42:58 AM
Well, there goes the omnibenevolent aspect of the Xian god. How about omnipresent... no, I don't notice him anywhere.
Omnipotent? Well, if he is, he is evil.
Omniscient? If so, he's either weak or evil.
Conclusion: The Xian god is unworthy of worship.
12/21/2005 9:35:34 AM
Can you imagine how tough it is to rationalise this kind of insanity and evilness so you can hang onto the only thing that is keeping you from killing 1/2 the neighbourhood?
Unless these fundies are all sociopathic there must be some aweful emotional turmoil going on inside them.
12/21/2005 11:44:49 AM
Tenka, I'm sure the orthodox ones who fell in with being like the Pharisees must be living in utter torment. There are believers who aren't, but they aren't what I would call fundies.
I'm looking at this statement and I'm thinking that this guy is justified for believing that if someone refuses a 1500 year old sales pitch about \"Jesus saves, just be like me\" then it's the listener's fault, not his. Even in spite of a paradox like this quote.
12/21/2005 12:45:15 PM
Right, because disbelief is the same as murder.
12/21/2005 2:14:53 PM
Actually, the Christian system IS more like that of the Godfather, \"making an offer we (supposedly) can't refuse.\" If you want to make the case for it being like the justice system, it's definitely a corrupt one; it amounts being jailed for eternity because one didn't properly bribe the judge.
12/21/2005 3:12:40 PM
The idea that disbelief is worthy of punishment clearly identifies your God as not perfectly benevolent. Then there's the more obvious problem in comparing it to our justice system - Hell is infinite punishment for finite crimes. Even with the death penalty, the punishment is necessarily finite since you wouldn't have lived forever otherwise (the main issue with it being that it's irrevocable). A benevolent, just God would not dole out infinite punishment for finite crimes - the punishment has to fit the crime.
12/21/2005 4:09:32 PM
The Last Conformist
And how is Half-Life's discription *not* describing God as being like the mafia?
12/21/2005 9:05:05 PM
Nightmare the clown
Ah yes, the divine protection racket....
12/22/2005 7:47:26 AM
Hmm... according to a lot of Fundies, he kills people that he doesn't like, pretty much runs the world...
I'd say he's a bit like the Mafia.
10/17/2007 9:04:19 PM
So you're saying we have the option to murder (Abortion Doctors, Homosexuals, and Evolutionists) or not to murder (Abortion Doctors, Homosexuals, and Evolutionists)
Well that's an easy one.
10/17/2007 9:32:49 PM
Prison for Murderers?
For me to adequately describe it, I'd have to Godwin. I'll refrain.
10/18/2007 10:54:46 AM
If you consider belief a choice you probably don't really believe the things you tell yourself you do.
If you consider sexuality a choice you're (at least) bisexual.
You can threaten me all you want I can still only see four fingers waving in front of my face.
10/18/2007 11:10:45 AM
They have to make a disconnection like that, otherwise they have to admit their god is a crazed hate monger.
11/21/2008 12:41:49 PM
So... God makes the rules, he makes the hell, he sends people there... and it's not his fault?
12/19/2010 10:53:39 AM
Yeah, and it's not the Mob's fault that you didn't pay your protection money. They have been ever so patient with you, but now...now it's time for you to accept your duly appointed punishment. So which kneecap shall we start with; left or right?
12/19/2010 11:18:36 AM
12/19/2010 11:32:32 AM
Or sleepin' with the fishes for angerin' da boss.
12/22/2010 8:01:53 AM