Quote# 8724

[Regarding the significance of Dover]

1) The devolution of Darwinism to mere “court science” is both the symptom and the means of its ultimate demise.

2) If the courts can independently proscribe religion in classrooms, then the courts can also independently require religion in classrooms.

pmob1, Uncommon Descent 5 Comments [12/21/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Yeah we figured this one out at the Scopes Monkey Trial.

12/21/2005 5:17:10 AM

Darth Wang

The reason it's in court is because of fundies trying to get it out of the classrooms, not through any fault of its own.

12/21/2005 2:13:36 PM

David D.G.

I think my head nearly imploded in trying to process this. The fundies pull a fast one, illegally and unconstitutionally, and then blame champions of science (and education and constitutionality) for taking the only course left to them in self-defense: the courts! This kind of whining just beggars the imagination. It's like that of a crook who gets caught burglarizing a home and then tries to claim that being jailed is an infringement of his civil rights!

~David D.G.

12/21/2005 3:18:17 PM


1) Nope. You brought it there (actually, it was ID on trial - not evolution), and it won on the merits.

2) No, there's a little thing called the Establishment Clause that is both the reason courts CAN take religion out of public classrooms and the reason they CAN'T put it in.

David - I don't think it can be put any better than your analogy.

12/21/2005 4:05:18 PM

The Last Conformist

Actually, I think it's more like a fraudster who argues that because his victim went to court, he clearly deserved to be defrauded.

12/21/2005 9:03:08 PM

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