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#1399836
Leighton Buzzard
PZM is a jumped-up asshole, but how does empathy relate to sheep-raping?
5/7/2012 3:19:18 AM
#1399838
Atheissimo
I.... I'm not sure empathy means what you think it means.
Just because you empathise with the sheep's loneliness, doesn't mean it wants to be sodomised. It MIGHT, but you'll never know because it can't talk and give consent.
Empathy means consideration for another's feelings as well as your own, something fundies can't seem to grasp. I'm more an more convinced that some fundies like this guy don't see the value in morality beyond making God happy by following his rules. They don't really care about others and, as they so often accuse us, if they didn't believe in God they would have no inhibitions.
5/7/2012 3:21:23 AM
#1399846
Reynardine
What's the matter, Rick? Has one been casting sheep's eyes at you?
5/7/2012 3:36:06 AM
#1399852
OhJohnNo
I don't think this person has ever experienced empathy before.
5/7/2012 3:53:52 AM
#1399853
Unknownymous
No wonder that these people are fucking sociopaths. Can´t even get fundamentally human functions like empathy straight.
5/7/2012 3:55:18 AM
#1399855
Serph-no-Okami
I think Ricky here is confused about the meaning of the word "empathy"...
5/7/2012 4:02:15 AM
#1399857
If that's what you want to do, Ricky, go ahead.
5/7/2012 4:04:30 AM
#1399858
Filin De Blanc
The...what? This is mind-numbingly stupid.
5/7/2012 4:13:27 AM
#1399860
Mister Spak
Fundies spend a lot of time thinking about beastiality. I don't allow them to be alone with my cat.
5/7/2012 4:17:15 AM
#1399862
Dr. Razark
If the sheep gives consent, then why would anyone have a problem with it?
Now, please show me that a sheep is capable of giving consent.
5/7/2012 4:39:54 AM
#1399863
Swede
What part of empathy don't you understand?
Do you want to be sodomized by a sheep, Ricky?
No? Then maybe the sheep doesn't want to be sodomized by a human.
5/7/2012 4:43:00 AM
#1399868
Brendan Rizzo
That's... not... what... empathy... means.
Also, is the OP suggesting that empathy has nothing to do with morality? They just don't see the value in it.
5/7/2012 5:05:31 AM
#1399869
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
I hope Rick doesn't have pets...
5/7/2012 5:08:58 AM
#1399871
Night Jaguar
Fundies seem to mention bestiality quite a bit....
What's up with that? (Maybe I don't want to know.)
5/7/2012 5:15:24 AM
#1399878
Mr Blur
Does. Not. Compute.
5/7/2012 5:27:17 AM
#1399879
Rob aka Mediancat
There is no logic here. Note: I do not mean there is bad logic, I mean there is none. There is point A, "morality is based on feelings of empathy," and there is point B, sheepfucking, and there is absolutely no path whatever between the two.
You can't get there from here.
5/7/2012 5:27:43 AM
#1399881
Amadan
You seem peculiarly interested in this type of deviancy.
Have you been a baaaad boy, Rick?
5/7/2012 5:44:04 AM
#1399895
Doubting Thomas
What is it with fundies and sheep raping? I swear, for all their self-righteousness, they think about deviant sex acts more than anyone I've ever seen. Between suggesting that atheists have sex with farm animals or children, and their graphic descriptions of gay sex, they come off as some disturbingly perverted people. It probably comes from their Puritannical beliefs about sex. Repress your sexuality for long enough and who knows how crazy it'd make you?
5/7/2012 6:43:53 AM
#1399896
dionysus
I was lonely during high school and I didn't want to be sodomized. Why would anyone assume that a sheep wants that?
5/7/2012 6:46:33 AM
#1399911
Horsefeathers
"If PZ Myers' opinion is true, that morality is based on feelings of empathy, then he should be morally justified to go into a field and sodomize a lonely sheep if he wants to."
Had your eye on a cute little ewe, have you Ricky?
5/7/2012 7:11:52 AM
#1399928
navelgazer
Imagine this Rick:
Moral and political policy can be made using arguments other than "Should I or not put my dick in it".
5/7/2012 7:30:30 AM
#1399931
Papabear
Absolutely, as long as he can show the sheep gave informed consent to their relationship. The empathy of most of us leads us to believe that the sheep wouldn't care to be involved in sex with PZ.
5/7/2012 7:32:14 AM
#1399933
No, because one can also be empathetic to animals. Next.
5/7/2012 7:33:09 AM
#1399940
Drummer
Ah, fundies and their sheep shagging proclivities.
What is it with fundies and beastiality?
5/7/2012 7:43:49 AM
#1399941
Raised by Horses
"I don't agree with his views, ergo he can go shag sheep!"
Great counterargument there. You really knocked the wind out of his sails.
5/7/2012 7:44:57 AM
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