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6. If PZ Myers' opinion is true, that morality is based on feelings of empathy, then he should be morally justified to go into a field and sodomize a lonely sheep if he wants to.

Rick Warden, Templestream blog 66 Comments [5/7/2012 3:12:55 AM]
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Leighton Buzzard

PZM is a jumped-up asshole, but how does empathy relate to sheep-raping?

5/7/2012 3:19:18 AM

Atheissimo

I.... I'm not sure empathy means what you think it means.

Just because you empathise with the sheep's loneliness, doesn't mean it wants to be sodomised. It MIGHT, but you'll never know because it can't talk and give consent.

Empathy means consideration for another's feelings as well as your own, something fundies can't seem to grasp. I'm more an more convinced that some fundies like this guy don't see the value in morality beyond making God happy by following his rules. They don't really care about others and, as they so often accuse us, if they didn't believe in God they would have no inhibitions.


5/7/2012 3:21:23 AM

Reynardine

What's the matter, Rick? Has one been casting sheep's eyes at you?

5/7/2012 3:36:06 AM

OhJohnNo

I don't think this person has ever experienced empathy before.

5/7/2012 3:53:52 AM

Unknownymous

No wonder that these people are fucking sociopaths. Can´t even get fundamentally human functions like empathy straight.

5/7/2012 3:55:18 AM

Serph-no-Okami

I think Ricky here is confused about the meaning of the word "empathy"...

5/7/2012 4:02:15 AM



If that's what you want to do, Ricky, go ahead.

5/7/2012 4:04:30 AM

Filin De Blanc

The...what? This is mind-numbingly stupid.

5/7/2012 4:13:27 AM

Mister Spak

Fundies spend a lot of time thinking about beastiality. I don't allow them to be alone with my cat.

5/7/2012 4:17:15 AM

Dr. Razark

If the sheep gives consent, then why would anyone have a problem with it?

Now, please show me that a sheep is capable of giving consent.

5/7/2012 4:39:54 AM

Swede

What part of empathy don't you understand?
Do you want to be sodomized by a sheep, Ricky?
No? Then maybe the sheep doesn't want to be sodomized by a human.

5/7/2012 4:43:00 AM

Brendan Rizzo

That's... not... what... empathy... means.

Also, is the OP suggesting that empathy has nothing to do with morality? They just don't see the value in it.

5/7/2012 5:05:31 AM

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

I hope Rick doesn't have pets...

5/7/2012 5:08:58 AM

Night Jaguar

Fundies seem to mention bestiality quite a bit....

What's up with that? (Maybe I don't want to know.)

5/7/2012 5:15:24 AM

Mr Blur

Does. Not. Compute.

5/7/2012 5:27:17 AM

Rob aka Mediancat

There is no logic here. Note: I do not mean there is bad logic, I mean there is none. There is point A, "morality is based on feelings of empathy," and there is point B, sheepfucking, and there is absolutely no path whatever between the two.

You can't get there from here.

5/7/2012 5:27:43 AM

Amadan

You seem peculiarly interested in this type of deviancy.

Have you been a baaaad boy, Rick?

5/7/2012 5:44:04 AM

Doubting Thomas

What is it with fundies and sheep raping? I swear, for all their self-righteousness, they think about deviant sex acts more than anyone I've ever seen. Between suggesting that atheists have sex with farm animals or children, and their graphic descriptions of gay sex, they come off as some disturbingly perverted people. It probably comes from their Puritannical beliefs about sex. Repress your sexuality for long enough and who knows how crazy it'd make you?

5/7/2012 6:43:53 AM

dionysus

I was lonely during high school and I didn't want to be sodomized. Why would anyone assume that a sheep wants that?

5/7/2012 6:46:33 AM

Horsefeathers

"If PZ Myers' opinion is true, that morality is based on feelings of empathy, then he should be morally justified to go into a field and sodomize a lonely sheep if he wants to."

Had your eye on a cute little ewe, have you Ricky?

5/7/2012 7:11:52 AM

navelgazer

Imagine this Rick:

Moral and political policy can be made using arguments other than "Should I or not put my dick in it".

5/7/2012 7:30:30 AM

Papabear

Absolutely, as long as he can show the sheep gave informed consent to their relationship. The empathy of most of us leads us to believe that the sheep wouldn't care to be involved in sex with PZ.

5/7/2012 7:32:14 AM



No, because one can also be empathetic to animals. Next.

5/7/2012 7:33:09 AM

Drummer

Ah, fundies and their sheep shagging proclivities.

What is it with fundies and beastiality?


5/7/2012 7:43:49 AM

Raised by Horses

"I don't agree with his views, ergo he can go shag sheep!"

Great counterargument there. You really knocked the wind out of his sails.

5/7/2012 7:44:57 AM
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