I had to go and Google all of that, and to say the above is a travesty of the case is to insult travesties. Look it up for yourself, but suffice it to say Ravi did a whole lot more than tweet.
5/10/2012 4:04:36 AM
Filin De Blanc
Is this guy saying that Clementi killed himself as part of some sort of master plan to imprison Dharun Ravi?
5/10/2012 4:09:24 AM
Bonus points; Courts actually found Ravi guiltless of the suicide. It's the invasion of privacy and bias intimidation and evidence tampering that Ravi is facing jail time for.
5/10/2012 4:16:57 AM
The above is a bit like lauding those heroic young arabs who desperately tried to save the planes on 9/11 from the mad, liberal pilots intent on causing devestation as part of a huge conspiracy to commit insurance fraud between all the passengers and occupants.
Post hoc be damned, Thomas' argument is ad hoc ergo propter hoc, the fallacious belief that if he just makes s#!* up, it must be so.
5/10/2012 4:25:17 AM
I thought this was simply a very badly written bit of pious pornography until I realized that these were the names of real people. The site's name appears to be an understatement.
5/10/2012 4:27:24 AM
Honestly it would have been unfair to saddle him with culpability for the suicide, so I'm glad that didn't happen.
But the rest is bullshit. People don't kill themselves to victimize other people. I mean, sometimes they do structure their suicides for revenge or something once they decide to do it, but this guy just...jumped off a bridge. And you can't seriously argue that Ravi didn't do anything to harm Tyler and yet Tyler's suicide was set up to mess with Ravi. And how does his mother come into this?
It's actually pretty startling he killed himself over what happened; his conduct leading up to it certainly didn't look like he was planning to jump off a bridge, requesting a new roommate and things.
5/10/2012 4:32:31 AM
Within the hermetically-sealed chambers of teabagger group-think this post is calm and reasonable.
5/10/2012 5:07:38 AM
What? This isn't from Fred Phelps? Blasphemy!
And didn't the trial already take place?
5/10/2012 5:13:17 AM
From what I can glean from this, another heterosexist fundie is blaming "sinful urges" for someone killing themselves, rather than anyone who might have regularly tortured and belittled them. Because the cornerstone of any good fundie cult is an utter lack of empathy for anyone not Just Like Us.
"the masochistic ecstasy of submitting to anal penetration by a disheveled older guy who still didn’t know Tyler’s full name, even after reaming Tyler’s anus on three occasions in Room 30"
Heterosexist fundies fantasise about gay sex more than actual gay people, part holyshitthatsalotofzeros.
5/10/2012 6:22:44 AM
you don't deserve liberty.
5/10/2012 6:23:34 AM
the masochistic ecstasy of submitting to anal penetration by a disheveled older guy who still didn’t know Tyler’s full name, even after reaming Tyler’s anus on three occasions in Room 30.
From this depiction of gay sex, I'm guessing that Thomas Clough is gayer than Elton John and Liberace drinking mai tais while sitting in a Mazda Miata with a rainbow sticker on it parked in front of a bar called The Man Hole.
5/10/2012 6:30:00 AM
Wait'll somebody plants a camera in your room, Tommy. Then we'll see how much you support Dharun.
5/10/2012 6:46:09 AM
You're a piece of shit.
5/10/2012 6:50:27 AM
just how alien his appetites were to the 97% of humanity who are not homosexual.
To the majority of us heterosexuals, "his apetites" is his own business, we couldn't care less as long as he does it in private.
In short; it's not so much "alien" as "non-interesting".
Quite a few heterosexuals have apetites for that kind of sex too, stupid.
5/10/2012 6:55:40 AM
Didn't Ravi basically out Clementi by filming him having sex with another man and then posting it online?
That's a bit more than just tweeting about it...
5/10/2012 7:42:19 AM
Something you want to tell us about your own sexuality there, Mr. Clough? The way you described homosexual sex makes it sound like you've been thinking about it quite a bit and probably typed that with one hand. You're further back in the closet than a polyester leisure suit.
5/10/2012 7:48:21 AM
Filin De Blanc
Clough is clearly gay. No straight man describes gay sex as "ecstasy".
5/10/2012 7:51:23 AM
I know how you feel. If someone videotaped, say, one of my own family members in the shower, and that person was accused of sexual assault and invasion of privacy and actually sent to jail for it, I'd fear for my own personal liberties as well.
Now kindly go swallow a large chunk of broken glass, for no one should have to deal with the horrors arising from the oxygen you waste, and the sewage you expel orally.
5/10/2012 8:05:59 AM
Go. Just go. There is so much wrong with this, both morally and factually, that I cannot think of any insult that would come close to describing what you have to be for writing this..... shit.
And to say he "took revenge on his mother".... What kind of monster are you? To think this kind of crap, as if he would KILL HIMSELF to HURT HIS MOTHER is just fucking unbelievable. Havent you got any decency? Any at all? Because all I can see is a ignorant idiot not wanting to take the blame for the death of a man his kind of thinking indirectly caused!
Imagine if homosexuality was the norm, and heterosexuality was looked down upon. You are secretly straight, and have sex with a woman. Someone films it, and puts it on the internet. Everyone is now bullying you for your sexual orientation, noone wants to have anything to do with you anymore. This, with reversed sexual orientation, of course, is what happened to Tyler.
And you are a complete monster for trying to shape this into your little conspiracy story.
Oh, and I think his mother loved him regardless of his sexual orientation. I suddenly hope for an afterlife, just because it would mean you would burn. And noone would care.
5/10/2012 8:27:37 AM
Yet another person who doesn't know what Sodom's real problem was.
5/10/2012 8:54:01 AM
"The liberals would predictably fall prey to every idiot’s first fallacy of post hoc, ergo propter hoc reasoning"
Hoc hoc hoc.
This Thomas "Cough" makes this Liberal wanna "HOC"!
*HOC HACK BLEEEEHHHH...*
"...the masochistic ecstasy of submitting to anal penetration by a disheveled older guy who still didn’t know Tyler’s full name, even after reaming Tyler’s anus on three occasions in Room 30."
C'mon, Clough...you just LOVE the buttsex, dontcha! INDULGE THOSE HOT MAN-ON-MAN FANTASIES!!!
OOOOHHHHHH BABY! I just know that you (and Rick Santorum, Rev. Harris, Fred Phelps, etc.) are just hungering...YEARNING FOR THIS!
5/10/2012 8:58:19 AM
If Dharun Ravi goes to prison it will be for the gross violation of privacy he inflicted on Tyler Clementi. Would the sanctimonious Thomas Clough be OK with someone clandestinely filming him in the throws of passion with a female (we're assuming that the homophobic Clough doesn't engage in sex with other men) and posting said content on the web?
This has fuck-all to do with being a liberal or a conservative.
5/10/2012 9:18:17 AM
He chose to take revenge by jumping off a bridge? It takes a special kind of loathsomeness, when someone has been driven to suicide by the actions of others, to rationalize a narrative whereby the victim is the guilty party.
5/10/2012 11:31:28 AM
every idiot’s first fallacy of post hoc, ergo propter hoc reasoning: the fallacious belief that just because one event follows another, the second event must have been the consequence of the first.
I absolutely hate it when people use non-English language terminology and then go on to explain it and repeat it in English. Either use it or don't. Geez.
It makes you look stupid: si tacuisses ...
5/10/2012 12:04:31 PM
Sic semper tyrannis!
E pluribus unum.
Pater noster, qui est in coelis ...
Non compis mentis
[i] Omasthay is roolingdray.
5/10/2012 1:22:50 PM