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[On whether nonbelievers could be elected to public office.]

Unfortunately, I think any person who did that would have a difficult time winning. Actually, I don't believe that there is such thing as an atheist because no respectable atheist would walk around with something in his pocket that said 'In God We Trust.' Nonetheless, I think that those of us who understand that we live in a pluralistic nation, we've got to be the ones who tell people openly, in public, on national TV, that we cannot tolerate that, where people make decisions about people who don't have a faith.

Emanuel Cleaver, God Discussion 57 Comments [5/29/2012 3:06:58 AM]
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Raised by Horses

"No respectable atheist would walk around with something in his pocket that said 'In God We Trust.'"

Well, that is our cross to bear. No pun intended.

5/29/2012 3:39:48 AM

Mudak

I often cross out the word 'god' and replace it with 'ourselves'.

I recognize that a lot of people would never vote for an atheist but that's something I want to work to change.

5/29/2012 3:44:10 AM



You are aware that Thomas Jefferson was an atheist, right?

5/29/2012 3:56:45 AM

Extraintrovert

Yes, how dare people who don't think fairy tales are real make decisions that effect millions of people. The nerve of them.

In all seriousness though, people should be elected to power based on their ability to make rational, evidence-based decisions regardless of their personal beliefs. But because that doesn't happen anywhere, then we should at least not view a candidate as viable or not viable dependent on how much they do or do not adhere to [insert religion here], because that is a major element of theocracies.

@1407786
Based on his writings, he was most probably a deist, not an atheist.

5/29/2012 4:00:28 AM

WWWWolf

> Actually, I don't believe that there is such thing as an atheist because no respectable atheist would walk around with something in his pocket that said 'In God We Trust.'

Yeah. Much like no respectable Christian would have a calendar on the wall, with all those Pagan god -inspired weekday and month names all over them. It's Tyr's Day!

5/29/2012 4:03:08 AM

Indicible

Actually, it's Thor's day (in German, Donners Tag, day of thunder).
So, you are a pluralistic society that wants to deny access to public offices to some people based on what they believe. Doesn't sound that pluralistic to me...

5/29/2012 4:10:04 AM

Lodgik

Yeah, I'm just here to confirm the fact that just because I'm an atheist, I am unable to use money.

5/29/2012 4:18:50 AM

Hertzyscowicz

@Indivisible: Tuesday, however, is Tyr's day.

In fact, the order goes Moon, Tyr, Odin, Thor, Freya, Saturnus, Sun. With weekly spiritual upsets like that, it's no wonder fundies would be prone to the occasional bout of irrationality, eh?

5/29/2012 4:22:17 AM

Dr. Razark

It's amazing how well a sharpie takes care of that "In God We Trust" crap.

5/29/2012 4:30:47 AM

Comrade Potatovich

Yeah, if there's anything Jesus stood for, it's the American dollar.
Next thing you know, you'll be inscribing "God is love" on military hardware.

5/29/2012 4:31:38 AM

Apatheist

Really? It's our money that makes you think we aren't really atheists. How about if we always use a debit card?

5/29/2012 4:45:50 AM

Leighton Buzzard

Plenty of atheists in England. We just love us our £10 notes with Darwin on the back ...

Stupid argument. I hear the IRA used to go to considerable lengths to acquire lots of pictures of Queen Elizabeth II.

5/29/2012 5:16:15 AM

SpukiKitty

ARTICLE VI, PARAGRAPH 3 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

and, of course....

THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Why do you hate America, Mr. Beaver Cleaver?

(Gosh, I love Copy/Paste)

5/29/2012 5:29:40 AM

Xotan

"In God we Trust" on a banknote

That certainly tells a lot about the god that is being worshipped - Mammon. Who else could it be!

5/29/2012 5:47:20 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Sometimes I envy you non-American secularists. Not only are you not hated in your own countries, you're mostly in the majority. One more reason that your countries are better than mine.

5/29/2012 6:01:46 AM

Reynardine

Yeah, and look how the value of our currency declined since we put "In God We Trust" on it.

5/29/2012 6:21:06 AM

Doubting Thomas

If it were up to me, I'd have "In God We Trust" removed from all our currency.

But I wonder why Christians are so intent on keeping God's name on our money when they think that money is the root of all evil and Jesus was very clear that he didn't like rich people.

5/29/2012 6:30:04 AM

Frelus

Sorry mate, we are no vampires, we are not allergic to "holy" symbols and phrases....

5/29/2012 6:30:56 AM

LDM

That's my city's ex-mayor (Kansas City). I used to think he was a pretty decent guy. Used to.

5/29/2012 7:00:46 AM

Philbert McAdamia

@ Raised by Horses
"No respectable atheist would walk around with something in his pocket that said 'In God We Trust.'"
Well, that is our cross to bear. No pun intended.

You said it better than I; my contribution refers to the Native Americans who refuse to handle pictures of Andrew Jackson. Whenever I tour around Arizona and New Mexico I make sure to have 5s and 10s with me. There was some talk of putting Saint Ronnie's wrinkled mug on dimes, replacing Roosevelt. {{{shudder}}}
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@Mudak
I often cross out the word 'god' and replace it with 'ourselves'.

I replace it with "reason", but I like yours, too.

5/29/2012 7:28:37 AM

rubber chicken

I just assume that it's a typo and they missed the out the 'L' from gold.

5/29/2012 7:35:39 AM

Mister Spak

"Actually, I don't believe that there is such thing as an atheist because no respectable atheist would walk around with something in his pocket that said 'In God We Trust.'"

I don't think there is any such thing as an infidel because no respectable infidel would walk around with something in his pocket with arabic numerals on them.

5/29/2012 7:38:47 AM

Citizen Justin

In fairness to the guy, the first statement is his personal opinion; the second statement, where he says that in a pluralistic nation, we cannot have people of faith making decisions about people without, is the way he thinks things should be.

5/29/2012 8:01:46 AM

breakerslion

I believe there is no God.

God = No one.

In God we trust = Trust no one.

Works for me!

Or perhaps you'd prefer Jean Shepherd's version, where this is a shortening of the complete phrase: "In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash."

5/29/2012 8:34:29 AM

Doctor Whom

Actually, I don't believe that there is such thing as a non-Mason because no respectable non-Mason would walk around with something in his pocket that bore the Eye of Providence.

5/29/2012 8:35:05 AM
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