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[Chabad posts on its website a letter from a Catholic nun, who was in a relationship with a Jewish woman.]

Beware of the dangers of tragic stories

We want to be compassionate kind human beings and that sometimes can gradually lead to too much toleration.

Personalized heart-breaking stories can lead or manipulate more and more good people to making long-term incremental changes that eventually harm their own community. First comes recognition of the ‘pain’ of others with our empathy and sympathy, then some measure toleration, then more toleration and acceptance, and finally Laws are amended.

The politically-correct liberalization of Judaism in America with Jews re-writing the Laws to fit their modern social and political values and placate their egos has created a Holocaust of Assimilation and brought great damage to our families.

Publishing such a story pushes for some limited degree of emotional acceptance for homosexual couples and interfaith marriages. This is a line that should not have been breached.

Anonymous, NYC, Chabad 52 Comments [5/24/2012 3:47:09 AM]
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JSS

Aww. Maybe one day I'll cram the last bit of my own personal empathy into a little ball and shove it away. Then I can make nonsensical comparisons to the Holocaust on things I disagree with, and speak to those of other faiths and sexual orientations with vitriol. Sounds like fun, but, it shan't be today.

5/24/2012 12:15:27 PM

Anon

But don't you all realise that if gay marriage is legalised we'll all catch teh gay?????

5/24/2012 12:39:50 PM

Passerby

You are even more disgustingly irreverant and malicious with the use of the term 'Holocaust' than Israel's current government.

And that's saying something.

Disclaimer: Nothing against the religion itself, (okay so there's more than a few passages in Abrahamic texts that scare the shit out of me and put me in a vengeful state of mind, but overall...) just the assholes using it and past atrocities committed against the innocent as an excuse for being such assholes. I mean seriously, what the fuck? Promising genocide against other countries? Do they mock their OWN suffering? jewish philosopher, who has shown up several times on this site with words to scare the living shit out of everyone by, is a prime example of that mindset.

Asshole.

In the words of some musicians whose names I can't remember: An injustice anywhere is an injustice... anywhere.

5/24/2012 12:52:31 PM

OscarApollo

"The politically-correct liberalization of Judaism in America"

Okay, I was raised as an Orthodox Jew, so lemme stop you there. I'm calling bullshit on this. There is nothing even remotely progressive or politically correct about Judaism. This is a religion when you're meant to pray every day to thank God you were born neither a gentile nor a woman. Yeah, super PC, right?

5/24/2012 1:05:03 PM

Creedence Leonore Gielgud


5/24/2012 1:08:41 PM

tranz2deep

Y'know, that was a huge buildup just to go beating the dead horse of miscegenation.

Then tossing homophobia in to further divide up everyone? Please.

Go beat off to the old counter-prop film "Don't Be A Sucker" so you might absorb an actual ideal (unity over divisiveness) instead of being all pent up and stupid.

5/24/2012 1:21:06 PM



What the hell? Some random Jewish woman scores with some nun, and you accuse an entire community of the fucking holocaust? The freakin' Jewish community at that? FUCK YOU where it hurts, asshole!

5/24/2012 1:35:27 PM

Auratwilight

Any moral system that makes it bad to feel empathy, sympathy, kindness, or compassion to certain people is WRONG.

5/24/2012 1:43:29 PM

checkmate

a Holocaust of Assimilation

Well, if you want to make sure you're different and remain so, you could start out with your clothing.

For example, you could sew a big yellow David's star on the front of everything you wear. How about that?

And just to show you that two can play the game of words, you shouldn't worry too much about the Holocaust of Assimilation. I'm sure you'll come up with a Final Solution for your Jewish Question.

Doesn't sound too nice when other people use those analogies, does it?

Really, get a life. A nice reformed life.

5/24/2012 1:49:23 PM

aaa

Holocaust as a word is dead. It is beaten savagely until it refuses to mean anything anymore.

5/24/2012 2:20:45 PM

solomongrundy

I thought the fundie fear was Sharia law being imposed in the USA and now it seems that liberal Jews are re-writing the laws. I can't keep up with this...

5/24/2012 2:25:49 PM

Dr.Shrinker

"First comes recognition of the ‘pain’ of others with our empathy and sympathy, then some measure toleration, then more toleration and acceptance, and finally Laws are amended."

Its because of that dynamic that Jews are no longer forced to live in ghettos or treated like resident aliens in most of the countries where they are born. Now granted, I know that rabbis look back on those times as "the good ol' days." After all, the rabbis had near total control over their communities then. But trust me, the popular condemnation of anti-Antisemitism and the closing of Jewish ghettos really is a good thing for humanity.

5/24/2012 2:28:30 PM

Snake

Dionysus' last three sentences made my day, and I don't even watch Star Trek.

5/24/2012 2:38:18 PM

Old Viking

Photos?

5/24/2012 3:32:31 PM

Dynamic Dragon

I'd say this hits the trifecta

5/24/2012 3:39:03 PM

Raised by Horses

Words, words, words.

5/24/2012 7:13:03 PM

naggers

Tolerance, the word you're looking for is tolerance.

5/24/2012 11:39:37 PM

Paler_Face

First comes recognition of the ‘pain’ of others with our empathy and sympathy, then some measure toleration, then more toleration and acceptance, and finally Laws are amended.

That's a GOOD thing.

...Holocaust ...

GODWIN! You lose.

5/25/2012 12:40:11 AM

eldritchMortician

Gosh yes, who needs empathy?

....oh, yeah. People who aren't psycopaths...

5/25/2012 3:54:00 AM

whatever

"Personalized heart-breaking stories can lead or manipulate more and more good people to making long-term incremental changes that eventually harm their own community. First comes recognition of the ‘pain’ of others with our empathy and sympathy, then some measure toleration, then more toleration and acceptance, and finally Laws are amended."

This is the slippery slope scenario. It implies we must always be rigidly opposed to anything not approved by the bible, and even the slightest hint of doubt will trigger an avalanche of permanenet destructive changes.

5/25/2012 3:56:51 AM

fishtank

You shouldn't blame others for your own lousy family life.

5/25/2012 6:25:40 AM

Sentry Gun

Stop telling us gays are humans too ! People could begin to sympathize !

5/25/2012 8:16:06 AM

Xotan

There is toleration.

There is no such thing as too much toleration.

There is no such thing as too little toleration.

There is only toleration.

But toleration cannot be conditional, else it becomes something other than toleration.

In other words, differention between ethnic groups, skin colours, belief systems, secual orientation, etc is not toleration. Real toleration obliterates differences and anathemises the concept of recognising such differetiation.

5/25/2012 12:01:50 PM

knotilus

EEK! Tolerance that might lead to acceptance!? We can't have that.

5/25/2012 2:43:52 PM

Hoplite

I always wondered what made the minds of Adolf Hitler and his Jew-hating followers tick, with the expressed hatred of Jews. It's either "haters gotta hate" or misfiring brain neurons.

5/25/2012 7:16:32 PM
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