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[Court rules NY town's prayer violated Constitution]

This court's ruling is bogus even if the town DID purposely emphasize Christianity. It's up to the town. Seems even the courts cannot be trusted to adhere to the 1st Amendment. You see, when a COURT dictates that a town MUST include muslim prayer, or atheist rants, or buddhist monks, then the government HAS established a religion. And, to full stop the argument that the court is "only" saying all religions must be accepted, that in itself is exactly a religion itself - the anti-christ's religion.

William Rooks, OneNewsNow 28 Comments [5/26/2012 3:14:39 AM]
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Ah, so it's fine for your religion to be spread in peoples faces, regardless of who is offended, but if someone else wants theirs (or lack thereof) out there then it's too far?

Acceptance is in no way a religion. There is no deity. There is no worship. There is no dogma. There is no tax exempt status.

Quit your bitching and do your praying in your house or something/

5/26/2012 3:57:16 AM


I see--you don't mind violations of the constitution as long as your team benefits. Okay, thanks for clearing that up for us.

5/26/2012 5:00:01 AM

No court has ever dictated anything like that, and it would be equally unconstitutional as endorsing christianity.

5/26/2012 6:39:02 AM


Christian claim discrimination because they aren't allowed to discriminate against others, part fuckedifIknow.

5/26/2012 6:44:43 AM

Thinking Allowed

Seems even the courts cannot be trusted to adhere to the 1st Amendment.

Actually the court did, which is why the ruling was handed down that the prayer violated The Constitution.

5/26/2012 6:45:47 AM

Thinking Allowed

5/26/2012 6:46:49 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Only in America are the Bill of Rights so hated.

5/26/2012 6:59:20 AM


Sounds more like you are arguing that the court is endorsing Unitarian Universalism as the "state religion". By the way, UU =/= antichrist.

5/26/2012 7:02:42 AM


I've modified my NeoPagan beliefs to a Universalist/Interfath/Theosophical bent rather than a strictly Shakta-Hindu bent, now. Makes more sense.
Give me Unitarian Universalism, anyday! I'd love to join a UU church! Someday I will.
Your Demiurge has no power over me. The REAL Yahweh & His Spouse, Asherah has no real connection to that Demiurgic phony (the REAL Devil, not to be confused with Lucifer).

5/26/2012 8:31:25 AM


As usual, you idiots completely miss the point. By emphasizing only one religion, Christianity, your town's lawmakers made an unconstitutional law which defies the 1st Amendment.
Really, you people need to read the Constitution at some point and take a civics class.

5/26/2012 8:34:04 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Not real bright, are you scooter?

5/26/2012 8:39:27 AM

MUST include muslim prayer, or atheist rants, or buddhist monks,

You do know that monks are not a form of writing, but actual people, right? That would be awfully silly to have all these writings from different belief systems plastered up in public view (or next to where ever this prayer was removed from) and then see monks standing next to them 24/7.

Oh and, atheist rants, really? Because, you know, Christians never go off on crazy rants or anything and there most certainly isn't a place on the internet that, in part, collects and compiles some of the best ones from throughout the internet. Oh wait...

5/26/2012 9:07:40 AM


How is this relevant to anything?

5/26/2012 10:27:49 AM

Fundie Debate Tactic #23: Claim that all other views are religions, even those which support freedom of religion. That way, when confronted with the fact that you want the government to enforce your religion, you can accuse your opponents of the same.

5/26/2012 11:10:09 AM


Oh for fuck's sake. If you take one religion and give it preference over other religions, that's establishing it.

5/26/2012 11:50:55 AM


It's up to the town.

No. Not too law savvy, are you?

There are laws on different levels: town/county, state, federal. No lower level law can stand in contradition to a higher level law. The constitution is the highest level and mandatory for all levels.

A town can't decide to ignore the constitution, no matter how much they want to.

But you already knew that, didn't you? You just want to lie and bitch around because this time things didn't go your way.

William Rooks? Are you sure that's not you, Rick Santorum?

5/26/2012 12:04:12 PM


Doesn't Anybody take Civics in 6th grade anymore?

5/26/2012 12:47:03 PM

Old Viking

It's interesting how often these people declare any contradiction of their opinions to be "a religion itself."

"Oh, you say say putting catsup and relish on a hot dog is perfectly OK, eh? Well that's a religion in itself."

5/26/2012 1:35:39 PM


Oh I get it, fairness is unfair if it's being fair to the people you're not fair to because it would be unfair to treat them fairly unless they are you.

Makes perfect sense.

5/26/2012 4:51:03 PM


If you don't want to be required to included other religions and atheism in public displays, simply don't include any religions. Requiring that other beliefs be included does not violate the establishment clause, it's when you include some at the expense of others that it becomes a problem.

5/26/2012 4:51:38 PM


More Theocracy.

5/26/2012 4:55:36 PM

Professor Waldorf X

You say "it's up to the town." Well, here's the thing: It's not. The first amendment clearly states that the government can neither endorse any one religion or prohibit anyone from exercising their religious freedom. As such, the government has two choices: Endorse all religions or no religion. As it is impossible to endorse every religion on the planet, the government can only endorse no religion, so, therefor, government backed prayer, even on a local level, is unconstitutional.

5/27/2012 12:10:58 AM


No it isn't, now go away.

Privileged cunt.

5/27/2012 1:40:05 AM


People who do not understand law should not comment on it, part 12,378,592.

5/27/2012 7:15:58 AM

There are some places around the US where the dominant religion of the population is Islam or Judaism.

I'd like to see how fast your head would explode if you lived in one of those places and the town council there mandated, say, a Muslim prayer in its proceedings.

5/27/2012 12:02:10 PM

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