Well, Elizabeth, currently around 105,000 Christians are murdered every year by any number of non-Christian entities. Over 57 nations ban the preaching of Jesus Christ. Of those, a number ban the possession of the Holy Bible. In 'real' Islamic states, one born into a Muslim family who recants that and accepts Jesus Christ is considered an infidel and the 'family' is legally protected if they stone the convert to death.
So, tell me again why we should NOT ban religions in our Country that are actively engaged in genocide of the Christians in Africa, Middle East, and the Islamic crescent of states?
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Oh, boo-hoo-hoo. The same people out to kill Christians are also out to kill atheists, intellectuals and women who wear lipstick. This coming from an atheist with a Bachelor's and a tube of Maybeline's "On The Mauve" in her purse.
So, tell me again why we should NOT ban religions in our Country
Because we have something called the Constitution.
And, my mommy always told me "just because Tommy does something that's wrong doesn't mean it's right for you to do it too, it's still wrong".
I listened to mommy. Maybe I should send her around your place.
You would if you could, that's the message we hear loud and clear from fundamentalist Christianity.
That this hasn't happened yet has only one reason. You are not a nation formed or ran on theocratic nonsence. You lot have been locked away from this by your constitution, laws and enforcment of same.
In fact it's interesting you mention Africa,, check into who's killing who before your next rant.
So, you think they are right in banning the free exercise of a religion? You want to bring back the Spanish Inquisition.
There are Christians that are actively engaged in genocide of the Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and atheists in Africa, Asia, Europe, South America, North America and Oceania, you know.
You do know that the largest Islamic country in the world is Indonesia, right?
First, citation f*ckin' well needed.
Second, you're advocating for the very behavior you're complaining about in others.
Together, that makes you an idiot AND an hypocrit. Congrats.
"around 105,000 Christians are murdered every year"
Citation very much fucking needed. Fundies keep trotting out this canard but I've never once seen them source it.
Secondly, see the Constitution.
"So, tell me again why we should NOT ban religions in our Country..."
Um, because we like to think that we are better than them?
Why shouldn't we ban Islam?
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
You see that there? That's a fucking citation...learn it.
The only reason those things (which are, I quite agree, horrible) are happening is because of theocracy . Not religion, theocracy - the replacement of a state with a church. The reason it will never happen in the United States is because we accept all religions here, as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others. What you are suggesting is no better than what they are doing right now.
And frankly, your holy man agrees with me. "You have heard that it was said, Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well." - Jesus , Matthew 5:38-40. According to your own holy book, you should be forgiving your enemies.
Well to be fair, Ben Joyner is right about Christians being killed. Perhaps not in those numbers, but Nigeria is an excellent example. Of course along with the Nigeria example comes the number of non Christians that the local Christians kill each year. Both Sides have been slaughtering each other in a tit for tat revenge war for ages.
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Cam I point out that Muslim apostates get the same treatment (in such places where this happens) if they become Hindus, Buddhists, Ba'hais or indeed atheists?
Has anybody got any better information on the 105,000 pa and 57 nations claims? (The latter sounds like it's pulled off a Heinz sauce bottle).
Read the Contitution of the US. It's all in there in the First Amendment.
BTW, the correct way to address the Queen is not by her given name. It's 'Your Majesty' on the first occasion. Thereafter it's Ma'am. And you only speak when you are spoken to.
First: Citation needed on the killed christians being killed for their beliefs, and not, lets say, in a robbery or something.really want to go down to their level and allow them to use the same arguments against you?
So, tell me again why we should NOT ban religions in our Country
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The motherfucking Constitution of the United States, bitch.
So, tell me again why we should NOT ban religions in our Country that are actively engaged in genocide of the Christians
Because we'd like to think that we're better than other countries that have theocracies and don't want to devolve into the crappy hell holes that those countries are. That, and that "goddamned piece of paper" the U.S. Constitution which guarantees freedom of religion for everyone, not just you.
"So, tell me again why we should NOT ban religions in our Country that are actively engaged in genocide of the Christians in Africa, Middle East, and the Islamic crescent of states?"
Amendment I of the United States Constitution.
I don't really think you should need more reason than that.
Christians have committed murders right here in the US. By your own logic, we should ban Christianity.
Similarly, by your logic, if you can hold one Muslim guilty of the crimes of other Muslims thousands of miles away, we can hold you guilty of the crimes of other Christians committed elsewhere.
Think about it, Ben.
You're right, Ben. Of course, with the LRA trying to kill everyone, be they Christian, Muslim, or anything else in Africa, that means Christianity will have to be banned as well.
Ben, all I am hearing from you is:
You've got a lot of maturing and learning to do, Ben. You self-righteous fibbing hypocrite. What would your Jesus think of you for lying and being intolerant of your fellow human beings?
Being intolerant of those who are intolerant of you is no way to solve the problems of this world. Evil for evil does not produce good. Two wrongs do not make a right. A positive and positive cannot attract. 2+2 does not = 5.
Am I getting through to you at all? No probably not... *le sigh*
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