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(On Obama's support of gay marriage)

The New York Times, declaring that homosexuals' right to marry is "too precious and too fragile to be left up to the whim of states and the tearing winds of modern partisan politics," is looking to the court as the last, best hope to impose same-sex marriage on the nation.

Can't trust voters, can't trust elected legislators, can't trust Congress. Homosexual marriage, says the Times, is too important to be left to democratic decision. The republic must be commanded to accept it by unelected judges who serve for life and against whom the people have no political recourse.

That process of judicial tyranny has begun. A California judge has overturned the decision of California's voters to ban gay marriage, and his ruling is headed for the high court.

The Supreme Court thus will tell us whether this issue is to be decided democratically by voters and their elected state and federal legislators, or dictatorially by themselves.

Four liberal activists on the Supreme Court -- Elena Kagan, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor -- are probably ready to declare that homosexual marriage is a constitutional right, as their predecessors declared abortion to be a constitutional right.

But Obama needs one more justice. If elected, he will get it, and same-sex marriage will be forced on all of America. If Romney wins, the Supreme Court will likely leave the issue of same-sex marriage to be decided by the people and their elected representatives.

Thus everything is up for grabs this November: the House, the Senate, the presidency, the Supreme Court and whether we still call the United States of America God's country.

Game on!

Pat Buchanan, Real Clear Politics 76 Comments [5/29/2012 8:34:01 AM]
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LogicalAgnostic

what is with all these double posts? :P sorry again

5/29/2012 2:17:33 PM

LogicalAgnostic

Just so you know, Pat, America was never God's country. The East near Africa and Sumeria is where the garden of Eden Biblically originated.

Around the general areas between Egypt and Iraq is where Old Testament characters were wandering and their stories take place there.

Jesus taught and ministered in Judea, Galiliee, and Jerusalem in Northern Israel. The Jews (God's actual chosen people) originated over there as well.

So America is not God's country because the Bible states God is a Zionist in many passages and that Jerusalem, Isreal is His beloved home in which one day He will return to His earthly throne.

It's all in there so if you don't believe me read the book of Revelation sometime. If you were a true devout believer you would know all this and do your homework before spouting ignorant claims.

Even if we were to argue over which country belongs to God, Biblically speaking, ALL countries belong to God equally as all the world is His creation.

Stop being such an egomaniac in thinking Americans are the chosen people as God chooses ALL people from ALL walks of life and ALL locations to do His will.

At least... that IS what is in the Bible and if you actually read it you would know all this. *shakes head*

(For the record I am 100% agnostic and believe no one knows what will happen after we die until we die ourselves and experience it or what god if any exists. I just keep an open mind and I study religions and holy books out of curiosity and I just hate it when people like this distort the information and don't even know what the hell they are talking about.)

5/29/2012 2:18:18 PM

Creedence Leonore Gielgud

@Filin De Blanc

Actually, he was one of the few conservatives that admitted something was fucked up in Florida. He ran as an independent, and received a majority in a primarily Jewish, and staunchly democratic district--he's the guy who said something to the effect that Hitler had some admirable qualities around that same time, so everyone, including him knew he probably wasn't the Jewish community's top pick. I wouldn't go as far as to say that he was outraged, or really even slightly upset that Bush was handed the election though, just that he acknowledged something wasn't right, and that the votes should be recounted.


5/29/2012 2:26:28 PM

Renon

Here's a hint. If you don't like gay marriage, than don't have one!

Seriously, you act like they're going to force all married couples to divorce and then marry gay.

5/29/2012 2:39:11 PM

LAchlan

No cunt is forcing you to marry a man.
Also, it's not God's country, it's not your country, it's not anycunt's country. It'll be there long after every single cunt on this planet is no more. Plus, the "injuns" were there before you, so if it's anycunt's country it's theirs. Now kindly fuck the fucking fuck off.

5/29/2012 2:43:48 PM

Jesus Klingon

"Can't trust voters, can't trust elected legislators, can't trust Congress."

Here's the thing about rights: you're not supposed to vote on them. That's why they're called "rights". - Rachel Maddow

5/29/2012 3:11:18 PM

SpukiKitty

@LAchlan

"Cunt"?

"No ONE is forcing you to marry a man.
Also, it's not God's country, it's not your country, it's not anyONE's country. It'll be there long after every single PERSON on this planet is no more. Plus, the "injuns" were there before you, so if it's anyONE's country it's theirs. Now kindly fuck the fucking fuck off."

I corrected it. I made no sense to treat "cunt" like a regular totally innocuous random word like "person", "if", "an", "the", "but", "odd" "twelve". It's usually an insult like "asshole", "cretin" or "slimebag".

Now, referring to Pat Buchanan as a "cunt" makes sense but using "cunt" like it's the word "person", "guy", "one", etc. is not only bizarre, it's really annoying & insulting.

Must be some new "slang" thing I'm not aware of....or some ridiculous "reclaiming" thing like blacks calling each other "nigga". To me, reclaiming "cunt" makes sense if you're talking about vaginas, otherwise, you sound ridiculous.

No offense. I mean nothing nasty by it.

I nonetheless agree with your point 100%.

5/29/2012 3:30:19 PM

John

same-sex marriage will be forced on all of America

Damn! You mean I'll be forced to divorce my wife of 42 years and marry a guy? Wow! What a repulsive thought. I guess I'd better vote for Romney. [/sarcasm]

5/29/2012 4:42:16 PM

whatever

Nobody cares whether you call the USA God's country or not.

And if the Supreme Court are there simply to ensure the laws passed by the senate abide by the Constitution, you can hardly refer to it as judicial tyranny!

5/29/2012 4:52:12 PM

Kayube

OBJECTION!

If you think that the people don't have any influence over judges, than what are you doing at the end by saying that only if Obama gets re-elected will he get one more justice?

5/29/2012 6:29:50 PM

Phloom

Yep, when Canada legalized gay marriage, it was forced on me. I was forced to marry 5 gay men. Every night, my ass is fucked raw.

5/29/2012 7:19:23 PM

Nowonmai

Hey, Asshole... civil rights is something that should NEVER be voted on.

5/29/2012 7:20:49 PM

Philbert McAdamia

whether we still call the United States of America God's country.

"We"? Got a turd in your pocket?

"Still"? Did we ever? When?

5/29/2012 8:11:25 PM



Look asshole, the legalization of gay marriage won't force you to marry a man. In Canada, gay marriage has been legal since 2005 and the country hasn't collapsed yet.

"whether we still call the United States of America God's country."

George Carlin would like a word with you.

5/29/2012 8:19:40 PM

Extraintrovert

Civil and human rights are not a democracy. I doubt you need this explained to you, so I'm going to conclude that you are lying for Jesus, just like every bigot hiding behind their religion.

@Papabear
Precisely. Granted, I'm no expert on the history of the US, but from what I've seen at no point has placing "state's rights" over human rights ever been a good thing, so I have no idea why they are still viewed as important.

@Phloom
BRB moving to Canada.

5/29/2012 8:37:17 PM

aaa

Oh look, some rich turd thinks politics is a fucking game and not something that decides what and how shit gets done.

5/29/2012 9:24:35 PM

rebel

Awww, you're losing.
I say, Ha, couldn't be happier. Now kindly bugger off and read up on tyranny by majority.

5/29/2012 10:19:49 PM

michael3ov

Buchanan doesn't seem to understand that there are some things that are too important to risk handing over to the tyranny of the majority. Such as civil rights or the right of a person to marry and spend their life with whoever they damn well please.

5/29/2012 11:35:04 PM

tranz2deep

@Doctor Whom

These assholes are NOT lying for Jesus.

They're lying for what they can get out of being conservagelicals.

5/30/2012 2:40:21 AM

The_L

There is a reason that there hasn't been a president with the last name "Buchanan" since 1860.

5/30/2012 4:49:02 AM

ScrappyB

The Supreme Court verifies laws pass Constitutional muster. That's their job. Afraid of what they're going to decide, Pat? Guess I Pat's world, it's "Liberty and justice for all, except if they happen to be gay."

I will so bust a gut laughing if one of the justices dies or retires before the election.

5/30/2012 5:07:48 AM

Sentry Gun

" If elected, he will get it, and same-sex marriage will be forced on all of America."

Do you really think you will be forced to marry someone of the same sex as you ? Or is this just the whole "live and let live" concept your missing out ?

5/30/2012 5:50:33 AM

John_in_Oz

Pat's terrified of having same-sex marriage forced upon him. He didn't like it much in prison.

5/30/2012 6:28:15 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Europe is laughing at us right now.

5/30/2012 7:46:18 AM

Pioneer

@Brendan
Nope. Same-sex partnership isn't legal in most of Europe, and equal marriage is only legal in 7 countries. This isn't as alien to Europeans as you believe.
Personally, I find this discussion stupid since equal marriage has been legal here in Sweden since 2009, and our country certainly isn't broken or completely gay yet.

5/30/2012 8:25:24 AM
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