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(On Obama's support of gay marriage)

The New York Times, declaring that homosexuals' right to marry is "too precious and too fragile to be left up to the whim of states and the tearing winds of modern partisan politics," is looking to the court as the last, best hope to impose same-sex marriage on the nation.

Can't trust voters, can't trust elected legislators, can't trust Congress. Homosexual marriage, says the Times, is too important to be left to democratic decision. The republic must be commanded to accept it by unelected judges who serve for life and against whom the people have no political recourse.

That process of judicial tyranny has begun. A California judge has overturned the decision of California's voters to ban gay marriage, and his ruling is headed for the high court.

The Supreme Court thus will tell us whether this issue is to be decided democratically by voters and their elected state and federal legislators, or dictatorially by themselves.

Four liberal activists on the Supreme Court -- Elena Kagan, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor -- are probably ready to declare that homosexual marriage is a constitutional right, as their predecessors declared abortion to be a constitutional right.

But Obama needs one more justice. If elected, he will get it, and same-sex marriage will be forced on all of America. If Romney wins, the Supreme Court will likely leave the issue of same-sex marriage to be decided by the people and their elected representatives.

Thus everything is up for grabs this November: the House, the Senate, the presidency, the Supreme Court and whether we still call the United States of America God's country.

Game on!

Pat Buchanan, Real Clear Politics 76 Comments [5/29/2012 8:34:01 AM]
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@ BrendanRizzo

Please stop with the America bashing. It makes you no better than this hateful douche

5/30/2012 8:56:48 AM

Agahnim

Let's shoot you out of the Bu-cannon into a brick wall.

5/30/2012 10:09:03 AM



Yeah!! Any upholding of the Constitution by a judge makes him or her an activist!

And when a judge actually IS being an activist, that's only supposed to be when it favors the right wing!! Like in Bush v. Gore and Citizens United, and....

5/30/2012 10:52:10 AM

Ebon

"same-sex marriage will be forced on all of America"

You do realise that it wouldn't actually be mandatory, right?

Also, leaving the rights of a minority up to popular vote is always a bad idea. And I'm pretty sure you didn't protest on the occasions where the conservative majority of the court clearly acted in an activist manner (such as Bush v. Gore or the Citizens United decision).

5/30/2012 1:51:09 PM

SpukiKitty

PAT BUCHANAN FACIAL TISSUE!

Someone outta make this A REALITY!

5/30/2012 3:02:05 PM

Liz

The whole "God's country" thing is the major reason why I'm trying to move to either Canada or Sweden. I haven't decided which one yet.

5/30/2012 5:50:26 PM

His4Life

I don't like Pat Buchanan, but he is correct about this. We'll see just how "precious and fragile" liberals think this "right" is when they're bending over and being sodomized on judgment day.

---
Dorie R. Bentjen, Deaconess and Minister
Certificate of Prophetic Ministry, 2003
Degree of Ordination in Lay Ministry, 2012
"Jesus is Love!"

5/31/2012 5:57:24 AM

His4Life

Freak0104, I beg to differ. If you don't call it God's country, why are you walking around with dollar bills that say "In God WE Trust" in your pocket? Seems a little dishonest to me. Stop using our money if you don't believe in the God we serve here.

---
Dorie R. Bentjen, Deaconess and Minister
Certificate of Prophetic Ministry, 2003
Degree of Ordination in Lay Ministry, 2012
"Jesus is Love!"

5/31/2012 5:59:09 AM

Fundies Make Me Sick

Shut up and get over it, Buchanan.

5/31/2012 7:03:34 AM

Horsefeathers

"Can't trust voters, can't trust elected legislators, can't trust Congress."

You appear shocked, like this is some sort of revelation.

"Homosexual marriage, says the Times, is too important to be left to democratic decision."

Civil rights should not be up for debate or vote.

"Four liberal activists on the Supreme Court -- Elena Kagan, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor -- are probably ready to declare that homosexual marriage is a constitutional right, as their predecessors declared abortion to be a constitutional right."

Just four? Then you've got nothing to worry about. There's nine of them, you know.

"Thus everything is up for grabs this November: the House, the Senate, the presidency, the Supreme Court and whether we still call the United States of America God's country.

Game on!"


Tell me again why it is people listen to you.

5/31/2012 7:03:39 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

How can these people calling it forcing when no one who doesn't want a homosexual marriage is going to get one? How is it possible?

Also, it's almost funny that there's all this debate when the reason for homosexual marriage to be legal is quite simple: Is gender discrimination unconstitutional? Yes. The end.

5/31/2012 8:32:37 AM



@His4Life
The Treaty of Tripoli and the 1st amendment disagree with you. The US is a secular country, if you don't like it then leave.

5/31/2012 8:42:31 AM

whoanelly

First of all, a question: who got up and danced when Obama said he supported gay marriage now? I say this knowing I'm not a naive person, Obama's a politician and he probably said it for political points not because of THE POOR GAYS (not to mention that it's my personal belief that he was for it, he just didn't want to alienate people during the 2008 election). Plus Biden kind of forced his hand. Whatever reasons he had though this is still the fucking POTUS coming out in support of gay marriage. This combined with the administration being unwilling to support DOMA anymore gives my cynical heart hope.

ANYWAY. Buchanan, you miss two vital points: 1. civil rights cannot be voted on. 2. you are on the wrong side of history, bucko.

5/31/2012 4:58:15 PM

Tatsukun

Wait, who said the people can't ban gay marriage? That has never once been claimed or argued. All you need to do is get enough people together to change the constitution (you remember that document you pretend it holy?)

5/31/2012 6:15:30 PM

His4Life

@The comment above,

That's fine bro. You are free to put your faith in whatever you'd like. You can tell God all about your "Treaty of Tripoli" when you come face to face with him on judgment day. I'm sure he'll be impressed.

-
Dorie R. Bentjen, Deaconess and Minister
Certificate of Prophetic Ministry, 2003
Degree of Ordination in Lay Ministry, 2012
"Jesus is Love!"

6/1/2012 5:47:46 AM

Brendan Rizzo

@ His4Life's second comment:

Funny you mention the "In God We Trust on our money" thing. Only a few days ago, we had a quote on here claim that atheists do not exist because no atheist would handle money with that motto. Please read the comments on that quote so that you know exactly how stupid your statement is.

6/1/2012 5:59:09 AM



@His4Life
If you're going to bother responding to people's comments try putting a little substance in them instead of threatening people with a creature that is imaginary to them.

6/1/2012 12:05:25 PM



@1408836

That would require a modicum of intelligence.

6/1/2012 5:31:26 PM

His4Life

Where did I mention imaginary creatures?

-
Dorie R. Bentjen, Deaconess and Minister
Certificate of Prophetic Ministry, 2003
Degree of Ordination in Lay Ministry, 2012
"Jesus is Love!"

6/3/2012 1:09:02 PM



@His4Life
When you mentioned a "god" silly.

6/4/2012 1:00:29 PM

Dynamic Dragon

@ #1409840

Please don't mock Christians. I myself happen to be a Christian. If you belittle our beliefs, then you're no better than the "God hates fags" crowd. Let's just stick to fundie bashing.

7/26/2012 10:58:53 AM

Blue the Thief

@His4Life


7/26/2012 2:23:09 PM

Beezlebub

Equality? That's tyranny I tells ya!

7/15/2013 1:18:56 PM

Dr. Shrinker

Ah, how I have missed last year's His4Life. Irritable, grossly ignorant, ever ready with tall tales and words of condemnation, the old His was a never ending source of amusement. The new His4Life who pretends to be educated, reconciliatory and interested in other people's viewpoints is so boring.

7/15/2013 1:39:44 PM

Blarghonius

You cannot impose civil rights. You can only take them away.

7/15/2013 6:59:47 PM
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