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#1413010
autofire
To borrow a phrase commonly used at Rational Wiki, what's that got to do with the price of fish?
6/14/2012 7:16:13 AM
#1413021
John
So I guess Butler's God must be just a puppet, since we can predict exactly what He'll do a thousand years from now using a formula published almost 400 years ago.
6/14/2012 8:06:49 AM
#1413032
Flah
@Brendan Rizzo
It has nothing to do with the American education system. It has everything to do with home schooling done by parents who are unqualified for that task.
6/14/2012 8:38:31 AM
#1413039
Skyknight
I think Butler's point is more that evolution can only be true if the cosmos is inherently chaotic and random. The predictability of sunsets and sunrises, on the other hand, can only work if the cosmos is inherently orderly and predictable. In other words, because such a notable part of the world is so predictable, there's no place in it for something as unpredictable as evolution.
I think this explains a lot of why RTCs are so opposed to the concept of evolution, beyond just whether Genesis's first few sections should be regarded as literal truth. They can't stand the idea of a world that's even a little unpredictable, and the fact that evolution requires unpredictability (q.v. mutations) instantly makes it anathema.
6/14/2012 8:52:50 AM
#1413040
Pilotess
I don't understand how these two things are related. Elaborate, please!
6/14/2012 8:54:00 AM
#1413041
Swede
What does the rotation of Earth have to do with life adapting to a changing environment?
6/14/2012 8:56:59 AM
#1413045
Table Rock
I can count to ten.
How could that be if gravity were true?
6/14/2012 9:04:39 AM
#1413046
freako104
What does evolution have to do with sun rising?
6/14/2012 9:07:14 AM
#1413047
Mystik Spiral
I've always been fascinated by the fact that 99.9% of fundies are retards.
How could that be if there is no English word that rhymes with "orange"?
6/14/2012 9:07:47 AM
#1413048
Gawd
@Skyknight
Thank you for explaining where this guy is coming from. I was like many on here and simply could not figure out what his point is. It still doesn't make any sense, but I think I see what he's trying to say. Or something
6/14/2012 9:07:53 AM
#1413057
Melchior
I like grapes, therefore, desks can't be made of metals.
Makes more sense than you...
6/14/2012 9:16:41 AM
#1413060
Berny
It's called science. The motion of the planets and stars hasn't been a big mystery for a few centuries now. Also, it has fuck-all to do with evolution, but then if you were smart enough to know that, you would be writing stupid shit on Baptist Board.
6/14/2012 9:24:25 AM
#1413061
D Laurier
Becuse evolution is not "true".
Evolution is not a statement, it is a PROCESS.
Only statements can be true.
6/14/2012 9:25:00 AM
#1413077
Papabear
You've probably been fasinated by watching the mushrooms grow too. The ToE doesn't deal with the orbits of the planets.
6/14/2012 9:50:00 AM
#1413088
You're talking about cosmology. What on earth (pun intended) does this have to do with evolution?
6/14/2012 10:21:28 AM
#1413097
Ludd
Jesus fucking Christ.....
6/14/2012 10:31:15 AM
#1413112
J. James
.... Because planets have nothing at all to do with biological evolution?
6/14/2012 11:32:06 AM
#1413119
Old Viking
I could tie my shoes by the time I was 12. I can still tie my shoes. That must have something to do with evolution. Doesn't it?
6/14/2012 11:42:55 AM
#1413133
Meeeh
It would be true even if evolution had been wrong as they have nothing to do with each other - how stupid and uneducated is it possible to be?
6/14/2012 12:53:45 PM
#1413144
Wow. Just a super use of logic, right there.
6/14/2012 1:43:16 PM
#1413160
The Duelist
Why is there no Gene Police for people like Tom? Why?
EDIT: what Power Skunk said. QED.
6/14/2012 2:33:33 PM
#1413162
Alencon
What?
Please tell me this is a joke. PLEASE!
6/14/2012 2:37:32 PM
#1413182
Karana
I've always been fascinated by the fact that some people think that cosmology and evolution are somehow related.
6/14/2012 4:49:11 PM
#1413183
moose
Because the same "kind" (get it) of scientists that do astronomy are the same "kind" of scientist that figured out evolution. Namely....real scientist as opposed to "creation" scientist. Unlike xianity and their ilk who for centuries claimed the earth to be flat, real scientist figured out the planets, stars, gravity, motions of the objects in space, etc. Just like real scientist figured out the geological column, the fossils and their changes over time, etc. You know, REAL science, real work. Not counting animals two by two marching on an ark. If it were not for real science, you would not have a squat of an idea of how to figure out sunrises/sunsets, or especially tides and such. Perhaps the REAL scientist in evolutionary biology deserve a second look by you.......
6/14/2012 4:52:30 PM
#1413187
LAchlan
I'm fascinated by the fact that we've evolved so much that some people can actually CHOOSE to be stupid.
6/14/2012 4:56:25 PM
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