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[On why he bans almost all atheists after a single post on his forum.]

I have to leave at least one atheist on unbanned. People are not banned for putting forth their best effort, but they are banned, as they ought to be, for being belligerent and obstinate in their pride. This explains what happened to those before you who failed. Though you certainly have your pride like Satan that keeps you separated from Jesus and hellbound, some mercy is helpful here towards you.

Troy, Biblocality 316 Comments [12/28/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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A Friend

[size=10]All of David B.'s charts are wrong, and he can't find anything in what I said that would cause him to draw his charts. The original chart remains the correct one:



Replace "global conscience" with child sacrifices per capita with the lower number higher up on the chart.

Notice how he draws his chart(s) wrong even after it was already explained to him his error.

None of his charts fit which is bearing false witness. Child sacrifices can't go negative and do not abruptly hit zero, so charts C (which is also the larger chart) & D are useless. With time along the horizontal axis, A & C (the larger chart) show a creation, which does not help his beliefs.

With time continuing on the horizontal axis, his charts B & D fail because they indicate an ever increasing speed into the past to a slower rate to the present. That would not be an exponential increase in conscience of getting better faster. I am glad that by the grace of God as we move forward there is an exponential improvement in conscience, not decreasing improvement.

Hence, there is only one chart that works. The one I gave originally. It is good advice for David B. to accept the truth, for the truth shall set him free.

This is God's design. Embrace it and receive Jesus as your Uncreated Creator, Lord and Savior!

For those who don't understand why some try to fight the exponential increase in conscience, it is because it shows there is a Creator who created. The exponential progression in conscience disallows an eternity of the past of cause and effects, because you would not still be sinning by now having been derived from the past. Therefore, the only possibility is the uncreated created. This proves the Creator exists and He is uncreated. Know that He is God of the Bible: the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit, for none can compare to Christ.
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10/4/2007 5:03:55 AM

A Friend

[size=10]All of David B.'s charts are wrong, and he can't find anything in what I said that would cause him to draw his charts. The original chart remains the correct one:



Replace "global conscience" with child sacrifices per capita with the lower number higher up on the chart.

Notice how he draws his chart(s) wrong even after it was already explained to him his error.

None of his charts fit. He uses them to misrepresent. Child sacrifices can't go negative and do not abruptly hit zero, so charts C (which is also the larger chart) & D are useless. With time along the horizontal axis, A & C (the larger chart) show a creation, which does not help his beliefs.

With time continuing on the horizontal axis, his charts B & D fail because they indicate an ever increasing speed into the past to a slower rate to the present. That would not be an exponential increase in conscience of getting better faster. I am glad that by the grace of God as we move forward there is an exponential improvement in conscience, not decreasing improvement.

Hence, there is only one chart that works. The one I gave originally. It is good advice for David B. to accept the truth, for the truth shall set him free.

This is God's design. Embrace it and receive Jesus as your Uncreated Creator, Lord and Savior!

For those who don't understand why some try to fight the exponential increase in conscience, it is because it shows there is a Creator who created. The exponential progression in conscience disallows an eternity of the past of cause and effects, because you would not still be sinning by now having been derived from the past. Therefore, the only possibility is the uncreated created. This proves the Creator exists and He is uncreated. Know that He is God of the Bible: the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit, for none can compare to Christ.
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10/4/2007 5:09:07 AM

A Friend

Forgive me for reposting, but I am using it as an editing function.

10/4/2007 5:11:09 AM

A Friend

[size=10]All of David B.'s charts are wrong, and he can't find anything in what I said that would cause him to draw his charts. The original chart remains the correct one:



Replace "global conscience" with child sacrifices per capita with the lower number higher up on the chart.

Notice how he draws his chart(s) wrong even after it was already explained to him his error.

None of his charts fit. He uses them to misrepresent. Child sacrifices can't go negative and do not abruptly hit zero, so charts C (which is also the larger chart) & D are useless. With time along the horizontal axis, A & C (the larger chart) show a creation, which does not help his beliefs.

With time continuing on the horizontal axis, his charts B & D fail because they indicate an ever increasing speed into the past to a slower rate to the present. That would not be an exponential increase in conscience of getting better faster. I am glad that by the grace of God as we move forward there is an exponential improvement in conscience, not decreasing improvement.

Hence, there is only one chart that works. The one I gave originally. It is good advice for David B. to accept the truth, for the truth shall set him free.

This is God's design. Embrace it and receive Jesus as your Uncreated Creator, Lord and Savior!

For those who don't understand why some try to fight the exponential increase in conscience, it is because it shows there is a Creator who created. The exponential progression in conscience disallows an eternity of the past of cause and effects, because you would not still be sinning by now having been derived from the past. Therefore, the only possibility is the uncreated created. This proves the Creator exists and He is uncreated. Know that He is God of the Bible: the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit, for none can compare to Christ.
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10/4/2007 5:12:29 AM

A Friend

[size=10]All of David B.'s charts are wrong, and he can't find anything in what I said that would cause him to draw his charts. The original chart remains the correct one:



Replace "global conscience" with child sacrifices per capita with the lower number higher up on the chart.

Notice how he draws his chart(s) wrong even after it was already explained to him his error.

None of his charts fit. He uses them to misrepresent. Child sacrifices can't go negative and do not abruptly hit zero, so charts C (which is also the larger chart) & D are useless. With time along the horizontal axis, A & C (the larger chart) show a creation, which does not help his beliefs.

With time continuing on the horizontal axis, his charts B & D fail because they indicate an ever increasing speed into the past to a slower rate to the present. That would not be an exponential increase in conscience of getting better faster. I am glad that by the grace of God as we move forward there is an exponential improvement in conscience, not decreasing improvement.

Hence, there is only one chart that works. The one I gave originally. It is good advice for David B. to accept the truth, for the truth shall set him free.

This is God's design. Embrace it and receive Jesus as your Uncreated Creator, Lord and Savior!

For those who don't understand why some try to fight the exponential increase in conscience, it is because it shows there is a Creator who created. The exponential progression in conscience disallows an eternity of the past of cause and effects, because you would not still be sinning by now having been derived from the past. Therefore, the only possibility is the uncreated created. This proves the Creator exists and He is uncreated. Know that He is God of the Bible: the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit, for none can compare to Christ.
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10/4/2007 5:20:52 AM

A Friend

[size=10]All of David B.'s charts are wrong, and he can't find anything in what I said that would cause him to draw his charts. The original chart remains the correct one:



Replace "global conscience" with child sacrifices per capita with the lower number higher up on the chart. If you prefer, you can place the horizontal axis on the top side of the chart so that the vertical axis points downward This causes the curve point downward exponentially which produces the same effect of an exponential decrease in conscience with the lower number on the lower number lower down on the chart.

Notice how he draws his chart(s) wrong even after it was already explained to him his error.

None of his charts fit. He uses them to misrepresent. Child sacrifices can't go negative and do not abruptly hit zero, so charts C (which is also the larger chart) & D are useless. With time along the horizontal axis, A & C (the larger chart) show a creation, which does not help his beliefs.

With time continuing on the horizontal axis, his charts B & D fail because they indicate an ever increasing speed into the past to a slower rate to the present. That would not be an exponential increase in conscience of getting better faster. I am glad that by the grace of God as we move forward there is an exponential improvement in conscience, not decreasing improvement.

Hence, there is only one chart that works. The one I gave originally. It is good advice for David B. to accept the truth, for the truth shall set him free.

This is God's design. Embrace it and receive Jesus as your Uncreated Creator, Lord and Savior!

For those who don't understand why some try to fight the exponential increase in conscience, it is because it shows there is a Creator who created. The exponential progression in conscience disallows an eternity of the past of cause and effects, because you would not still be sinning by now having been derived from the past. Therefore, the only possibility is the uncreated created. This proves the Creator exists and He is uncreated. Know that He is God of the Bible: the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit, for none can compare to Christ.
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10/4/2007 5:25:52 AM

A Friend

[size=10]All of David B.'s charts are wrong, and he can't find anything in what I said that would cause him to draw his charts. The original chart remains the correct one:



Replace "global conscience" with child sacrifices per capita with the lower number higher up on the chart. If you prefer, you can place the horizontal axis on the top side of the chart so that the vertical axis points downward. This causes the curve to point downward exponentially which produces the same effect of an exponential decrease in child sacrifices with the lower number lower down on the chart.

Notice how he draws his chart(s) wrong even after it was already explained to him his error.

None of his charts fit. He uses them to misrepresent. Child sacrifices can't go negative and do not abruptly hit zero, so charts C (which is also the larger chart) & D are useless. With time along the horizontal axis, A & C (the larger chart) show a creation, which does not help his beliefs.

With time continuing on the horizontal axis, his charts B & D fail because they indicate an ever increasing speed into the past to a slower rate to the present. That would not be an exponential increase in conscience of getting better faster. I am glad that by the grace of God as we move forward there is an exponential improvement in conscience, not decreasing improvement.

Hence, there is only one chart that works. The one I gave originally. It is good advice for David B. to accept the truth, for the truth shall set him free.

This is God's design. Embrace it and receive Jesus as your Uncreated Creator, Lord and Savior!

For those who don't understand why some try to fight the exponential increase in conscience, it is because it shows there is a Creator who created. The exponential progression in conscience disallows an eternity of the past of cause and effects, because you would not still be sinning by now having been derived from the past. Therefore, the only possibility is the uncreated created. This proves the Creator exists and He is uncreated. Know that He is God of the Bible: the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit, for none can compare to Christ.
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10/4/2007 5:27:42 AM

A Friend

[size=10]All of David B.'s charts are wrong, and he can't find anything in what I said that would cause him to draw his charts. The original chart remains the correct one:



Replace "global conscience" with child sacrifices per capita with the lower number higher up on the chart. If you prefer, you can place the horizontal axis on the top side of the chart so that the vertical axis points downward. This causes the curve to point downward exponentially which produces the same effect of an exponential decrease in child sacrifices with the lower number lower down on the chart.

Notice how he draws his chart(s) wrong even after it was already explained to him his error.

None of his charts fit. He uses them to misrepresent. Child sacrifices can't go negative and do not abruptly hit zero, so charts C (which is also the larger chart) & D are useless. With time along the horizontal axis, A & C (the larger chart) show a creation, which does not help his beliefs.

With time continuing on the horizontal axis, his charts B & D fail because they indicate an ever increasing speed into the past to a slower rate to the present. That would not be an exponential increase in conscience of getting better faster. I am glad that by the grace of God as we move forward there is an exponential improvement in conscience, not decreasing improvement.

Hence, there is only one chart that works. The one I gave originally. It is good advice for David B. to accept the truth, for the truth shall set him free.

This is God's design. Embrace it and receive Jesus as your Uncreated Creator, Lord and Savior!

For those who don't understand why some try to fight the exponential increase in conscience, it is because it shows there is a Creator who created. The exponential progression in conscience disallows an eternity of the past of cause and effects, because you would not still be sinning by now having been derived from the past. Therefore, the only possibility is the uncreated created. This proves the Creator exists and He is uncreated. Know that He is God of the Bible: the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit, for none can compare to Christ.
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10/4/2007 5:29:49 AM

A Friend

Just doing some editing.

10/4/2007 5:31:00 AM

A Friend

[size=10]All of David B.'s charts are wrong, and he can't find anything in what I said that would cause him to draw his charts. The original chart remains the correct one:



Replace "global conscience" with child sacrifices per capita with the lower number higher up on the chart. If you prefer, you can place the horizontal axis on the top side of the chart so that the vertical axis points downward. This causes the curve to point downward exponentially which produces the same effect of an exponential decrease in child sacrifices with the lower number lower down on the chart.

Notice how he draws his chart(s) wrong even after it was already explained to him his error.

None of his charts fit. He uses them to misrepresent. Child sacrifices can't go negative and do not abruptly hit zero, so charts C (which is also the larger chart) & D are useless. With time along the horizontal axis, A & C (the larger chart) show a creation, which does not help his beliefs.

With time continuing on the horizontal axis, his charts B & D fail because they indicate an ever increasing speed into the past to a slower rate to the present. That would not be an exponential increase in conscience of getting better faster. I am glad that by the grace of God as we move forward there is an exponential improvement in conscience, not decreasing improvement.

Hence, there is only one chart that works. The one I gave originally. It is good advice for David B. to accept the truth, for the truth shall set him free.

This is God's design. Embrace it and receive Jesus as your Uncreated Creator, Lord and Savior!

For those who don't understand why some try to fight the exponential increase in conscience, it is because it shows there is a Creator who created. The exponential progression in conscience disallows an eternity of the past of cause and effects, because you would not still be sinning by now having been derived from the past. Therefore, the only possibility is the uncreated created. This proves the Creator exists and He is uncreated. Know that He is God of the Bible: the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit, for none can compare to Christ.
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10/4/2007 5:31:57 AM

A Friend

If you think about it, Satan is against the global increase in conscience, because then he has nobody he can deceive anymore.

Obviously, David B. is still under his grasp.


10/4/2007 5:40:30 AM

David B.

A Friend wrote:

"All of David B.'s charts are wrong, and he can't find anything in what I said that would cause him to draw his charts."

#310208: “Many tims has it already been said one example of an exponential pogression in conscience is today child sacrifices are not so prevalent in society as they once were”

#310999: ”You don't need to publish numbers, except know in historical documents it was significant then and is not the case now. […]If the drop of child sacrifices was linear and not exponential, then there would still be quite a significant number of child sacrifices now, but you don't find that to be the case.”

#311065: “You don't need numbers listened; all you need know is it was prevalent before, and today virtually non-existent. Such non-existence can not be arrived at by a linear equation but requires an exponential improvement.”

#312648: “In the exponential progression of conscience and drop in child sacrifices it is not just two points you assumed, but there has been a slow drop from 2000 to 1000 BC, steeper from 1000 to 0 BC and for the last 2000 years virtually straight up.”

#312690:Yes, it is true, from 2000 to 1000 BC child sacrifices dropped slowly. Then from 1000 BC to 0 BC they dropped more rapidly. Then from 0 BC to today it is vertually a curve straight up or straight down depending on which end of the line you are looking from.”[/i]

It is now possible to reconstruct ‘A Friend’s graph. The graph starts at some point in the past (called ‘then’) where child sacrifices where ‘prevalent’ (i.e. some large number). Between 2000 BC and 1000 BC there is a slow drop, between 1000 BC and ‘0’ BC there is a steeper drop, until at ‘now’ the figure is virtually non-existent (i.e. close to zero), the curve is also known to be exponential.



The exponential progression in this case is from a slow drop, to a steeper drop (-2000 to -1000), to a still steeper drop (-1000 to 0), to a still even steeper drop (0 to 1000), to a still even more steeper drop (1000 to 2000), at which point the child sacrifices are ‘virtually non-existent’. Clearly such a trend must soon cross into negative numbers of child sacrifices.

A Friend wrote:

#311319: “If the linear drop is too steep it will go negative which is impossible, hence it is not linear considering the virtually zero child sacrifices today, yet there is still some remnant of it.”

#312648: “And any fractional child that never over time becomes one child can be deemed as no more child sacrifices unlike your linear theory where you have negative child sacrifices. That's impossible.”

#314057: ”you can't have negative child sacrifices”

#314059: ”Your straight line though goes straight down into negative child sacrifices. That's impossible.”

#314401: “obviously it can't go negative”

#315341: “sacrifices can't go negative”

#316683: “Your concave chart is wrong since child sacrifices can't go negative”

The exponential trend described by AF is, in his own words, impossible.

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#310208: http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=8791&page=3
#310999: http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=8791&page=4
#311065: http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=8791&page=4
#311319: http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=8791&page=5
#312648: http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=8791&page=9
#312690: http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=8791&page=9
#314057: http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=8791&page=13
#314059: http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=8791&page=13
#314401: http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=8791&page=13
#315341: http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=8791&page=16
#316683: http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=8791&page=16
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10/4/2007 7:56:27 AM

A Friend

[size=10]All of David B.'s charts are wrong, and he can't find anything in what I said that would cause him to draw his charts. The original chart remains the correct one:



Replace "global conscience" with child sacrifices per capita with the lower number higher up on the chart. If you prefer, you can place the horizontal axis on the top side of the chart so that the vertical axis points downward. This causes the curve to point downward exponentially which produces the same effect of an exponential decrease in child sacrifices with the lower number lower down on the chart.

Notice how he draws his chart(s) wrong even after it was already explained to him his error.

None of his charts fit. He uses them to misrepresent. Child sacrifices can't go negative and do not abruptly hit zero, so charts C (which is also the larger chart) & D are useless. With time along the horizontal axis, A & C (the larger chart) show a creation, which does not help his beliefs.

With time continuing on the horizontal axis, his charts B & D fail because they indicate an ever increasing speed into the past to a slower rate to the present. That would not be an exponential increase in conscience of getting better faster. I am glad that by the grace of God as we move forward there is an exponential improvement in conscience, not decreasing improvement.

Hence, there is only one chart that works. The one I gave originally. It is good advice for David B. to accept the truth, for the truth shall set him free.

This is God's design. Embrace it and receive Jesus as your Uncreated Creator, Lord and Savior!

For those who don't understand why some try to fight the exponential increase in conscience, it is because it shows there is a Creator who created. The exponential progression in conscience disallows an eternity of the past of cause and effects, because you would not still be sinning by now having been derived from the past. Therefore, the only possibility is the uncreated created. This proves the Creator exists and He is uncreated. Know that He is God of the Bible: the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit, for none can compare to Christ.
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10/4/2007 5:21:29 PM

Repent

Are You Saved?

Have you ever wondered what it meant to know Christ as your own personal Saviour? Has someone ever asked if you were "saved"? Have you thought about what happens after this life - what then? Well, let me share a story with you . . .

"Those who knew J. Fred Swanson would tell you he was a man of integrity, and a man who had it all - a beautiful wife, Jennifer; two terrific kids, Jessica who was 7 years of age and Jordan who was 5; a lovely home and a very promising career at a successful aviation company.

Fred had an incredible charisma, and his cheerful attitude coupled with his passion for adventure always made him a great person to be around. His skill as an aircraft mechanic and an avid pilot took him all over the world. His love for flying took him around the world - from Greece, to flying charter flights in Thailand, and even spending four months on the frozen tundra of Antarctica. Fred was always ready to fly!

Tragedy struck on Tuesday, 17 April, 2001. On final approach at Oshkosh airport, Fred Swanson was killed while test flying a V-tail Bonanza. Co-workers, friends and family were simply stunned - no one could believe it had really happened. The only comfort everyone found on that tragic day was in the fact that Fred was ready to die. Fred's deep faith in God was evident to all who knew him.

You see, as a young man Fred had accepted Christ as his own personal Saviour. The Bible says in John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Fred believed that the word "whosoever" in this verse meant him. It means you, too. Perhaps you have been in a situation where you have felt that gripping fear of death and muttered a quick prayer to God, your Maker, to spare your life. He answered that prayer, and today God wants to answer another prayer for you. He wants you to come to Him as a sinner in need of a Saviour.

In Romans 3:23, it says "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." How true this is! We all have done, said and thought things that are wrong - this is sin. If we sin, then we are sinners.

Sin has a price. Romans 6:23 tells us "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

This is a awful price to pay, isn't it! But do you know what? Christ has paid that price for us - did you see the last part of Romans 6:23 - "but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." In Romans 5:8, it explains how Christ paid that price: "But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

What a gift! Would you receive that gift today? Here is how the Bible says you can be sure you are ready to die. Romans 10:9-10 explains, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him (the Lord Jesus Christ) from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Further on, the Bible says in Romans 10:13 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

That word "whosoever" means you! Would you call upon the Lord to save you right now? Pray this simple prayer, and mean it with all your heart:

'Dear God, I know that I am a sinner in need of a Saviour. I believe that Jesus died for my sins and rose again. Please forgive me of all my sin. Right now I ask Jesus into my heart and life to be my Saviour. In Jesus' name I pray, Amen.'

Fred's life was tragically ended at the prime of his life, but he was ready . . . ready to die. The sincere desire of all his friends and family is that God would be glorified in his death through people coming to know Christ as their personal Saviour as they see Fred's preparation and readiness for death."

If you asked the Lord to save you, would you let us know? email : 8 wanttruth@gmail.com

10/4/2007 5:58:17 PM

A Friend

Repent,

Amen.

What the Holy Spirit put on my heart to say is this is the only time I think a Christian has posted here besides myself in this thread that I am aware of which indicates there aren't many of us out there.

Secondly, the Holy Spirit wanted me to say that the unbelievers already know these things that this is what they need to do to receive Christ into their lives and be forgiven of their sins. They agree if the Bible is true they need to do these things to receive the free gift of salvation. What they need first is convincing that Jesus is God. Actually most know intuitively that Jesus is God but they want to remain in their sin nature. And they know they can't disprove God's proof of Himself, but try anyway. What is really needed is that the unsaved come to terms with themselves to accept they are going to hell, and only then may they finally receive Christ.

Thirdly, I have to have a little chuckle because "Repent" is fishing for written responses that he saved somebody.

I don't recall ever doing that, because it is somewhat self-motivated and exalting self. Brothers and sisters, do not try to do this, but just let the Holy Spirit flow and if someone wants to tell you they were saved as a consequence of hearing your words then let them tell you. Don't put out requests. This takes humility.

10/4/2007 6:33:07 PM

A Friend

For the record, wanttruth (goes by Repent or Truth) never emailed me in saying he wanted to talk to me; he only wanted me to contact him. This is a disconnect of his intention. Don't think I am firm with only non-Christians. Christians have more accountability so they need to be more responsible in their words and actions.

10/4/2007 6:37:07 PM

A Friend

Check it out, Baby Got Book

10/4/2007 9:53:18 PM

A Friend

Be shocked.

10/4/2007 9:54:52 PM

A Friend

Study what hell is going to be like for you if you reject Jesus.





10/4/2007 10:06:17 PM

A Friend

Oops, that's not the hell video, but it is the "Israel, Islam and Armegeddon" video. The hell video is called "Heaven and Hell" which takes scholars and asks them what hell is going to be like for the unsaved.

10/4/2007 10:14:00 PM

A Friend

This is a quick summary of heaven and hell

10/4/2007 10:16:48 PM

Amazing Wisdom

Understand that logic can't convince an unsaved person because it is illogical to remain unsaved.

10/4/2007 10:26:40 PM

A Friend

Matt. 12.28 says as soon as a demon meets the Holy Spirit it is cast out. So the minute you come in contact with the Holy Spirit, that is, by letting Him by receive Christ into your life, the evil spirit will come out of your dead spirit.

10/4/2007 11:07:00 PM

David B.

[size=14]Why ‘A Friend’ doesn’t draw the graph of declining child sacrifices himself.[/size]

Because he can’t.

Remember, AF has said that only an exponential decline in child sacrifices can result in their near non-existence today. What’s more he has stated that the decline has got steeper with time until it is now a near vertical slope.

The problem is that there is no exponential curve that shows a steepening decline that does not also go negative, a result AF had already declared invalid.

First let’s deal with what we know, that child sacrifices (X) are declining, and that the decline has been getting steeper:



We also know that AF has insisted that the decline is exponential:



Combining (1) and (2), we arrive at two inequalities, one for the value:



And one for the slope:



From (3c) and (4c) it is clear that both inequalities are true if, and only if, M < 0 and A > 0.

Now we come to AF’s little problem.



If A > 0 then the exponential bit gets bigger all the time, and starts heading off towards infinity at an ever faster pace. But remember, the only exponential that does what AF says is one where M < 0, so whatever value of C you chose (other than C = oo) X ends up at negative infinity.

Hence there is no curve that shows a steepening exponential decline in child sacrifices that does not go negative. AF doesn’t draw the curve because he can’t. If he tried he would have to post a curve that is (a) not exponential, (b) does not get steeper or (c) does not show a decline.

10/8/2007 8:46:20 AM

David B.

Of course you don’t actually need a lot of maths to see that ‘A Friend’ has made a mistake.

Remember, he said that today child sacrifices are virtually non-existent and the curve is virtually straight up and down.

So child sacrifices are nearly at zero and just about heading ‘due south’?



A negative value, AF’s self-raised flagstaff of impossibility, is inevitable.

10/8/2007 8:54:15 AM
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