BDSM is not only racist it is also antisemit. Black clothes and lethear are inspired by the Nazis (SS) and Foucault for example wrote that it turned him on to reanact the suffering of the Jews. The Nazis that still exist in Germany also seem to be above-average into BDSM and it’s women who are humiliated and of course not men. They don’t bother to lie about empowerfization unlike the self-proclaimed “progressives”. So, do male Nazis just not realize that they are indeed and consequently against their own very intention empowering women through their fetishes although they promote childbearing and housewives (conservatism)? *cough*
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Ah, Radfem Hub again. They're starting to give Conservapedia a run in the batshit crazy stakes.
"it’s women who are humiliated and of course not men "
Except in femdom which is possibly the biggest single subsection of BDSM.
1) BDSM has been around long before the Nazis.
2) Modern BDSM started out in England following WWI. British soldiers who were released from the military found that they craved the structure and submission or control they experienced while in the military. They then formed groups to feed their new found fetish for domination and submission.
3) There are many men who are the submissive in the BDSM roles. Many men enjoy being dominated by women and many women enjoy dominating men.
4) That's three strikes. You're OUT!
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"Umm...Nazi uniforms were BROWN, and they were not dressed in leather."
Not to be defending this idiot, dear, but actually, she's partly right about uniforms. She did specifically mention the SS, whose uniforms are black. That wasn't a Nazi invention, though. Black clothing was (and still is) popular with other fascist movements, such as the Italian "black shirts" that already existed when the Shutzstaffel was formed.
Tell that to my Jewish, lesbian, quite kinky girlfriend. >_< /TMI
Seriously, there's nothing wrong with BDSM, you douchebag.
Since BDSM predates the Nazis by a comfortable margin (humans have always had a kinky side) your argument falls apart.
Wait, this is Radfem Hub. Never mind. You can't reason with women who hate penises and want them chopped off every male.
Also, Leighton Buzzard wins an Internet.
There's tons of German Fem-Dom porn, and in much of it the women wear black leather. Didn't notice any Nazi references, which would probably be illegal.
From what I've seen, the BDSM world is one where political and ethnic/racial differences are pretty much set aside.
Safe, sane and consensual.
So long as it leads to no harm, what goes on in the bedroom between two consenting adults is none of your business. They can be wearing replicas, authentic Nazi uniforms, or even the actual clothes taken off the corpses of Eva Braun and Adolf Hitler, it makes not an iota of difference.
Just because you can't have fun doesn't give you the right to deny it to others.
Thanks Berny, I'm glad somebody got it. (I'd like to add that my mother is a very sweet lady who I love very much, and has never come the Yiddisher Momma with her kids in any way. A balaboosteh she is not).
I agree that 50 Shades of Gray is bad but come on...
(Nothing against BDSM, just 50 Shades is horrible and inaccuate...)
Speaking of nazis...
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One doesn't dabble long in porn, particularly fetish material, before hearing the term 'Dominatrix' and what they do to men. I was probably 13 by the time I figured that out despite censorship and moral guardians, what's your excuse?
Just because it's stereotyped as being inordinately popular in Germany and occasionally overlaps with Nazi fetishm as in Elsa, She-Wolf of the S.S. (where again, a woman degrades men... then kills them) doesn't mean there's any correlation let alone being the inspiration. Bondage is older than European civilization.
I'm not even into that shit and I can tell you that much.
"it’s women who are humiliated and of course not men."
Dominatrix to slave - "this is COMPLETELY humiliating Mr Humphries, this riding crop you gave me is tiny...I need a bullwhip to go work properly on you!"
@Ivy: Urgh, those articles have made me angry now. I mean, the Radfem Hub women are nuts and everyone can tell, but the women on that blog are just rational enough that they might be able to actually convince some people to buy into their bigoted view of the world.
BDSM is not only racist it is also antisemit{ic}.
Well, maybe. And perhaps nutty, too, although no nuttier than you are. What's your point?
New rule: If even a single spelling or grammatical error is found on even a single post on a racist or sexist site, that person has forever lost the debate. After all, a superior race or whatever would know English orthography and grammar inside and out.
Btw. everyone - we could use a little less grammar-nazism here (unless a fundie claims their grammar is perfectly good, or their spelling is just spectacularly atrocious). It's kind of stupid to see some of the commenters here criticizing a fundie's spelling while making spelling mistakes in that very same comment.
Fact is, our spelling on this site isn't much better than that on much of the rest of the internets (including fundie posts).
How the heck they consider BDSM racist because a couple is pretending to be racist is beyond me.
So if a couple pretends they're an orc torturing an elf, that proves BDSM is anti-elf?
If in an interracial gay couple the black guy is the passive partner, does that make homosexuality racist?
I prefer my subs wear Victorian based clothing myself.
But seriously, stop looking at nazi fetish porn and do some damn research before you go spouting easily debunked BS.
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