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How is it that adults who have even the slightest physical contact (sometimes not even intentionally sexual) with kids are permanently incarcerated and marginalized but cops, prosecutors and therapists can commit atrocities against children and never be held criminally, or even civilly, accountable? Hell, they don't even lose their jobs!

Yes, I am convinced; there IS evil in this world and much of it is committed by the self-righteous, self-proclaimed "child-savers" whose actual goal is to inflict great pain and suffering upon others. These are a power-hungry, sadistic breed who achieve their orgasms through the personal destruction of human beings, including kids.

So, let's stop being surprised that such evil exists and that our tax dollars sustain it. Let us start by standing up to these monsters who walk amongst us, unimpeded and unrestrained by any sense of humanity or decency or rule of law.

Eric Tazlear, NAMBLA.org 56 Comments [6/29/2012 3:06:30 AM]
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Raised by Horses

Et tu, quoque?

6/29/2012 3:25:50 AM

Philbert McAdamia

Father Taz is that you?

6/29/2012 3:30:45 AM

Sgt

Tbh, I find myself more or less agreeing with the first paragraph... but then it just goes off the rails.

6/29/2012 3:45:02 AM



Never thought I'd agree with NAMBLA on something

6/29/2012 3:55:41 AM

Reynardine

It almost looked logical till I saw where it came from.

6/29/2012 4:03:38 AM

Ebon

Holy fuck, NAMBLA still exists?

6/29/2012 4:23:38 AM

Leighton Buzzard

Translation: 'Cops won't let me fuck kids. Eeeevil cops!'.

6/29/2012 4:26:00 AM

ChakatBlackstar

Is NAMBLA still active? I was under the impression that it's mostly just a website maintained by the last few members to not have been jailed or gone underground.

6/29/2012 5:17:51 AM



Never thought I'd see this on FSTDT...

6/29/2012 5:27:02 AM



Although this guy is on NAMBLA, and although he's talking about kiddie-fiddling (which we can pretty much all agree is a bad thing, kay?), he does have a point about people taking the witch-hunt too far.

Perverted Justice springs to mind as an organisation which seems less intent on stopping child abuse and more intent on causing pain and suffering to those it thinks (evidence or no) are child abusers. This extends to people who merely vocally disagree with them and their methods.

People who are wrongfully accused of child abuse have to live with the stigma of such an accusation for the rest of their lives; quite often even the accusation alone, irrespective of whether it turns into a criminal charge and conviction, is enough for the individual to lose their job, family and friends. Quite a few wrongfully accused people have committed suicide over the years.

Even speaking about it in these terms, that there is human suffering visited on people for really no wrongdoing, marks one as a "sympathiser" at least, and probably a full-blown paedophile at worst. It's pretty much a taboo to say anything remotely different to the current "burn them all" Zeitgeist. I wonder how much flaming this very post will attract (but we're all rational, lovely people here, right?).

The above notwithstanding, people who actually abuse children obviously deserve to be pretty heavily punished for it, and Eric here has clearly gone pretty far off the deep end with his conspiracy stuff. I just wish, I guess, society would wait before dropping all the guilt and suspicion on someone until after they've actually been convicted of a crime.

6/29/2012 5:42:56 AM

Doubting Thomas

To quote South Park from the NAMBLA episode:

"Dude, you have SEX... with CHILDREN!!!"

@#1417788 ^

Even speaking about it in these terms, that there is human suffering visited on people for really no wrongdoing, marks one as a "sympathiser" at least, and probably a full-blown paedophile at worst. It's pretty much a taboo to say anything remotely different to the current "burn them all" Zeitgeist. I wonder how much flaming this very post will attract (but we're all rational, lovely people here, right?).

Actually I think you're pretty spot on. Yes, people who sexually abuse children belong in prison, but the current public attitude toward sex abuse tends to run along the lines of a witch hunt, and many innocent people have been hurt. Unfortunately the attitude seems to be "Better that a few innocent people go to jail than to let one guilty person go free."

6/29/2012 5:56:18 AM

Mister Spak

"but cops, prosecutors and therapists can commit atrocities against children "

Because these atrocities are imaginary.

6/29/2012 5:57:43 AM

Kat S.

Yes, I do agree that there are some things in the legal system that should be fixed, but lifting the age of consent laws so that NAMBLA can go wild isn't one of them.

The people you call "child-savers" to much your chargin are not all a bunch of medlers out to make people's life a living hell. Some of them were parents of victims or victims themselves as kids, and they have taken it upon themselves to try to stop it from happening to any other kids.

6/29/2012 6:06:17 AM



Go read the whole article - this quote is actually the tamest part (poor choice).

6/29/2012 6:06:35 AM

D Laurier

If you are an adult (ie; over 16 years old), and you want to have sex with children (ie; under 14 years old), I ask you to please seek medical help.

If you are an adult who has sex with children, please insert yourself in a wood chipper.


6/29/2012 6:25:16 AM

Apatheist

You might make sense, but you're from nambla, so go fuck yourself.

6/29/2012 6:44:56 AM

Brendan Rizzo

I have come to learn that anyone who opposes the existence of therapists is crazy and knows it. It is the hallmark of a cult. We hate the folks at NAMBLA as much as the pedophile priests; get over it.

6/29/2012 7:00:34 AM

Nagol

You had a point at first, but the fact that you come from NAMBLA disappoints me. Get some help. Molesting children will never be acceptable.

6/29/2012 7:36:23 AM

shykid

I don't even care if this post is mostly reasonable; it is sick, wrong, and creepy as hell coming from NAMBLA—and here I thought that sick little group of pedos got shut down ages ago. The pedo witch hunt hurts and ruins innocent lives and draws attention away from real pedophiles, but this person's idea of a "pedo witch hunt" is rightfully hunting legitimate pedophiles who actively exploit and rape children.

"How is it that adults who have even the slightest physical contact (sometimes not even intentionally sexual)"

What the fuck? You cannot "accidentally" have sexual contact with someone. Something can be accidentally suggestive but not "accidentally" sexual. No one "accidentally" molests or rapes a child or anyone else.

"How is it that [...] therapists can commit atrocities against children and never be held criminally."

Yeah, I'm just gonna echo what Brendan Rizzo said here. Pretty much anyone who broadly criticizes therapists or psychiatrists needs therapy or psychiatric treatment and is in denial. Since this post is from NAMBLA, that definitely applies here. Sure, there are plenty of quacks in mental-health professions, but they're still a small minority. Most mental-health professionals are competent, otherwise I probably wouldn't be here today.

"These are a power-hungry, sadistic breed who achieve their orgasms through the personal destruction of human beings, including kids."

As a sexual-abuse survivor, allow me to kindly say
[size=24]NO, U![/size]

Seriously. That which you describe is the face that stares you back in the mirror.


"So, let's stop being surprised that such evil exists and that our tax dollars sustain it. Let us start by standing up to these monsters who walk amongst us, unimpeded and unrestrained by any sense of humanity or decency or rule of law."

You are the monster. I stood up to mine, and I hope any of your victims find the courage to stand up to theirs.

6/29/2012 7:40:28 AM

emau99

How is it that adults who have even the slightest physical contact (sometimes not even intentionally sexual) with kids are permanently incarcerated

1) It depends on the context. If it can be shown that there's something improper going on, then that's justification for legal action.
I can put my hand on my nephew's shoulder, and it's not a problem. If YOU put your hand on his shoulder, then you're going to find that you have a very, very big problem--and not just with the law, either.

2) How the FUCK do you have unintentional sexual contact with a kid?

but cops, prosecutors and therapists can commit atrocities against children and never be held criminally, or even civilly, accountable? Hell, they don't even lose their jobs!

Uh...what? What atrocities? What the hell are you even talking about?

Even if what you say is true--it doesn't justify sexual abuse of children.

6/29/2012 7:48:57 AM

breakerslion

This is not a subject I can be humorous about.

On the one hand, I was manipulated into a sexual relationship with an adult when I was post-puberty but not adult. This is never right, and the perpetrator was a sadistic bastard 24/7 besides.

On the other hand, I know a kid who had a 15 year old girlfriend when he was 17, and is a "sex offender" now for life. How society treats/treated him is going to shape his emotional and moral growth, and not in a good way.

Punish a dog, and make him vicious. Hang a scarlet letter on people, and make them ashamed and angry. That last applies to judging victims as well as perpetrators. You will note that I was very careful not to call myself a victim, above. That's years of therapy. Society has a lot to learn about not putting victims (for lack of a better word) on the pillory, and not being part of the problem.

6/29/2012 8:14:07 AM

J. James

Excuse me, what? What the hell have psychologists, cops and prosecutors done to harm children, exactly?

I don't understand this one at all.

Wait, OHHHHH, this is from NAMBLA. Ne'er mind.

Child-molesters-R-us. Go die in a fire, child rapist.

P.S. People that are saying that too many people are caught in the paedophile dragnet, that's true. A 19-year-old who has consentual sex with a 17-year-old does NOT deserve to be jailed or labeled a child molester. But this is from NAMBLA, for fuck's sake. He's a rape apologist, if not a child rapist/murderer himself. That simply does not apply in this case.

6/29/2012 9:00:43 AM



Eric, you aren't even being original. Alex Jones and another RW guy from Texas (whose name I forget) like to claim that the CPS agencies and therapists are run by pedophiles. As far as I know there's no proof to any of it.

6/29/2012 9:18:22 AM

Berny

Shiny mirror award?

6/29/2012 10:20:22 AM

Shanya Almafeta

At first, I was going to click 'meh'. A bit of hyperbole, but a valid point about how there is insufficient oversight over corrupt people and practices in governmental authority.

... then suddenly, NAMBLA.

6/29/2012 11:06:24 AM
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