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#1418296
Doubting Thomas
Before abortions were legal we had a pretty good world. We had people who invented different machines that made life easier and scientists who discovered many new vaccines and new antibiotics there were many great musicians and singers.
Um, we still have that.
Also, all that bad stuff you mentioned still happened, it was just hidden better back then.
6/30/2012 2:55:42 PM
#1418303
Old Viking
If I can't kill babies and do drugs, what's the point in living?
6/30/2012 3:17:11 PM
#1418304
Lady Evil
Remember the good old days? We didn't have new fangled things like the internet. If we wanted people to know what we were thinking, we had to tell them! And we like it! If we wanted porn, we had to go to a store and buy it. If we wanted music we had to go to a record store. And we like it! Blah, blah, things were so much better in the old days.
Don't know if this guy noticed, but we're still building things and creating vaccines. In fact, there was one that fundies wanted banned because they thought it would encourage promiscuity. More vaccines have their research halted because "STEM CELLS R TEH EBILS!!!!"
6/30/2012 3:20:23 PM
#1418310
MK
"We do still have the power of prayer and I guess I would rather have that than any other type of power."
Cool, so when they're handing out superpowers, we'll all choose useful stuff like flying, invisibility, super-strength or speed, and you'll say..... "I'd like the power of prayer, please."
6/30/2012 3:57:28 PM
#1418314
John
Before abortions were legal we had a pretty good world.
Yeah. Then Ronald Reagan did a $120 billion tax cut without cutting spending and we ran up a $120 billion deficit for the next decade. Then G. W. Bush did a $400 billion tax cut without cutting spending and we doubled the National Debt. Lesson: pay your own bills; don't just borrow the money from the Chinese.
6/30/2012 4:05:52 PM
#1418315
LAchlan
I'd love to see the look on your face when you realise your "afterlife" is being eaten by worms underground in a box.
6/30/2012 4:17:09 PM
#1418316
PAnz
I also remember during that time we feared being nuked by the "red scare", just finished off a world war where slaughtering civilians was an acceptable compromise to knocking out a small factory....only to get into another war right away where kids were being killed and no one knew why. Yeah, them 50's were wonderful when you were a kid just like every decade after has been because you parents are the ones that deal with the burden, not you.
6/30/2012 4:23:16 PM
#1418319
Yeah childhood is such an innocent time.
6/30/2012 4:31:06 PM
#1418321
David B.
"Before abortions were legal we had a pretty good world. [...] There was crime too that has always been with us but it wasn't as in your face as it is today."
Funny, Steven Levitt of
Freakonomics fame argued that legalised abortion was responsible for the dramatic
reduction in crime of the 1990s on. So much so that the states that were late to legalise abortions saw their crime rates drop last.
http://www.freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/abortion-and-crime-who-should-you-believe/
Whether the link between crime and abortion is true or not, at least Levitt provides actual data, and isn't just relying on unsubstantiated anecdote and emotional appeals to nostalgia.
"We do still have the power of prayer and I guess I would rather have that than any other type of power."
Personally, I'd be happy for you to have
only the power of prayer too. So isn't it a bit strange that the religious right seem to value just about every other type of power more than that of prayer?
I mean they all
claim to trust in the Lord, so why bother with political, financial or military might when you have the ear of the most powerful being in existence?
6/30/2012 4:42:49 PM
#1418323
His4Life
I agree with his point on abortion. However, pre-1960s America does not look nearly so rosy if you are black or a member of another minority group. I've found that 9 times out of 10, the people who idolize the 1950s are white. You rarely ever hear black commentators making statements like this. Abortion is immoral, but so was institutionalized racism and substandard living conditions for a large chunk of Americans who are never featured in shows like "Leave it to Beaver."
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Dorie R. Bentjen, Deaconess and Minister
Certificate of Prophetic Ministry, 2003
Degree of Ordination in Lay Ministry, 2012
"Jesus is Love!"
6/30/2012 4:50:13 PM
#1418326
Szena
Things seemed simpler when you were a child. That does not mean that they actually were simpler.
6/30/2012 5:13:35 PM
#1418333
Sasha
Welcome to the future! One of the things we've invented is punctuation. Don't be afraid to try it.
6/30/2012 6:14:58 PM
#1418334
xmx
Cranky old man alert. Better get off his lawn.
6/30/2012 6:18:57 PM
#1418337
Fat Black Mammy
Yes, things were better back then when safe abortions were only available to rich white girls who had a family doctor who knew how to shut up about it.
Actually, I think that whole internet business and the information industry and explorer vehicles on Mars and cell phones and most everything we use every minute of every day came about AFTER abortion was legalized.
6/30/2012 6:33:00 PM
#1418338
shykid
Paragraphs and punctuation. Use them.
6/30/2012 6:38:00 PM
#1418339
D Laurier
"Before abortions were legal we had a pretty good world."
Abortions were illegal for a short period that coincided with an era of rampant injustice, racism, war, and corruption.
6/30/2012 6:38:48 PM
#1418345
Raised by HorsesThen, suddenly, abortion was
legalized. All inventors immediately commited suicide, and all great musicians and singers abruptly and irrevocably lost their talents and foreswore musicianship in favor of promulgating muzak. Kids went from saying things like "gosh" and "gee, willikers" to "fuck you, mom", and the Earth was riven by conflict.
I've said it before, and I'll surely say it again: "Leave It To Beaver" was not a documentary.
6/30/2012 7:22:39 PM
#1418349
Prager
Abortion is as old as pregnancy.
6/30/2012 8:25:53 PM
#1418354
Robespierre
Do you know what happened to the birth rate in 1973-74?
Nothing, despite hundreds of thousands of legal abortions. Apparently, those shocked people had back-alley abortions between church gatherings.
And surely the slowdown in economic growth after 1973 can't possibly have anything to do with oil shocks.
6/30/2012 8:43:07 PM
#1418358
Philbert McAdamia
Before apples were illegal we had a prety good world. Yeah, Buddy - the zeros. Them were the days. It's been all downhill since then.
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We do still have the power of prayer and I guess I would rather have that than any other type of power.
As long as you aren't after any real power, I guess we're safe.
6/30/2012 9:26:23 PM
#1418372
NonProphet
@His4Life:
That's the most reasonable post I've ever seen from you.
However... while you may agree with his so-called point on abortion, he's still completely WRONG about it, and completely ignorant of the fact that legal abortion has been around all over the world since at least the days of ancient China.
6/30/2012 11:45:05 PM
#1418379
solomongrundy
We can't bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell 'em stories that don't go anywhere - like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Give me five bees for a quarter," you'd say.
Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
7/1/2012 1:49:45 AM
#1418380
fishtank
My grandfather, who fought on the wrong side in WW2, would like to tell you a few things about your precious little world which went down then and still go on.
You nostalgic twerp.
7/1/2012 3:48:35 AM
#1418445
Canadiest
"I really am having a hard time living in this crazy world we have today."
What is something everyone over 60 says, Alex?
That's correct, we would have also accepted; What are fantasies of an America that never existed?
7/1/2012 6:52:26 AM
#1418615
JB Mason
Glad someone already referenced Freakonomics.
But even if correlation isn't causation here, one simply cannot argue that violent crime has gotten worse since the time when those aborted babies would have been coming of age, and be intellectually honest.
Victimless "crimes" like pot-smoking, gambling, and prostitution only bother fundies, so I really don't care if those have gotten "worse".
7/1/2012 11:25:13 AM
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