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Before abortions were legal we had a pretty good world. We had people who invented different machines that made life easier and scientists who discovered many new vaccines and new antibiotics there were many great musicians and singers. There was crime too that has always been with us but it wasn't as in your face as it is today. People were nicer and had better manners and most went to church every Sunday. I know I really liked my life then. I remember being so shocked when abortions became legal no one thought it would it was considered so barbaric to kill babies in the womb. The best we could get from our politicians was don't worry your taxes will never go to murder babies so much for their promises today we do pay for them even though we don't want to. Our country really starting changing after that and really changed once those 60's hippies turned into politicians. There was also the new drug culture too. When I was growing up and in my teens I never knew anyone using drugs in fact even in college I didn't at first and then stayed away from anyone later if I found out they were. Things changed slowly at first but these past 15 yrs I have seen massive changes in life styles of the average person. Many no longer even believe there is sin or a moral way to live instead it is live and let live. The last 10 yrs has shoved the gay life styles down our throats and forces us to deal with them even if we don't want to. Now they want to pre select what kind of baby they have. They want to weed out what they consider to be defective or of the wrong sex. I am glad I'm getting older because if the end isn't soon I will be closer to going home by death because I really am having a hard time living in this crazy world we have today. We do still have the power of prayer and I guess I would rather have that than any other type of power.

raml, Rapture Ready 56 Comments [6/30/2012 8:41:52 AM]
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Doubting Thomas

Before abortions were legal we had a pretty good world. We had people who invented different machines that made life easier and scientists who discovered many new vaccines and new antibiotics there were many great musicians and singers.

Um, we still have that.

Also, all that bad stuff you mentioned still happened, it was just hidden better back then.

6/30/2012 2:55:42 PM

Old Viking

If I can't kill babies and do drugs, what's the point in living?

6/30/2012 3:17:11 PM

Lady Evil

Remember the good old days? We didn't have new fangled things like the internet. If we wanted people to know what we were thinking, we had to tell them! And we like it! If we wanted porn, we had to go to a store and buy it. If we wanted music we had to go to a record store. And we like it! Blah, blah, things were so much better in the old days.

Don't know if this guy noticed, but we're still building things and creating vaccines. In fact, there was one that fundies wanted banned because they thought it would encourage promiscuity. More vaccines have their research halted because "STEM CELLS R TEH EBILS!!!!"

6/30/2012 3:20:23 PM

MK

"We do still have the power of prayer and I guess I would rather have that than any other type of power."

Cool, so when they're handing out superpowers, we'll all choose useful stuff like flying, invisibility, super-strength or speed, and you'll say..... "I'd like the power of prayer, please."

6/30/2012 3:57:28 PM

John

Before abortions were legal we had a pretty good world.

Yeah. Then Ronald Reagan did a $120 billion tax cut without cutting spending and we ran up a $120 billion deficit for the next decade. Then G. W. Bush did a $400 billion tax cut without cutting spending and we doubled the National Debt. Lesson: pay your own bills; don't just borrow the money from the Chinese.

6/30/2012 4:05:52 PM

LAchlan

I'd love to see the look on your face when you realise your "afterlife" is being eaten by worms underground in a box.

6/30/2012 4:17:09 PM

PAnz

I also remember during that time we feared being nuked by the "red scare", just finished off a world war where slaughtering civilians was an acceptable compromise to knocking out a small factory....only to get into another war right away where kids were being killed and no one knew why. Yeah, them 50's were wonderful when you were a kid just like every decade after has been because you parents are the ones that deal with the burden, not you.

6/30/2012 4:23:16 PM



Yeah childhood is such an innocent time.

6/30/2012 4:31:06 PM

David B.

"Before abortions were legal we had a pretty good world. [...] There was crime too that has always been with us but it wasn't as in your face as it is today."

Funny, Steven Levitt of Freakonomics fame argued that legalised abortion was responsible for the dramatic reduction in crime of the 1990s on. So much so that the states that were late to legalise abortions saw their crime rates drop last.

http://www.freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/abortion-and-crime-who-should-you-believe/

Whether the link between crime and abortion is true or not, at least Levitt provides actual data, and isn't just relying on unsubstantiated anecdote and emotional appeals to nostalgia.

"We do still have the power of prayer and I guess I would rather have that than any other type of power."

Personally, I'd be happy for you to have only the power of prayer too. So isn't it a bit strange that the religious right seem to value just about every other type of power more than that of prayer?

I mean they all claim to trust in the Lord, so why bother with political, financial or military might when you have the ear of the most powerful being in existence?

6/30/2012 4:42:49 PM

His4Life

I agree with his point on abortion. However, pre-1960s America does not look nearly so rosy if you are black or a member of another minority group. I've found that 9 times out of 10, the people who idolize the 1950s are white. You rarely ever hear black commentators making statements like this. Abortion is immoral, but so was institutionalized racism and substandard living conditions for a large chunk of Americans who are never featured in shows like "Leave it to Beaver."

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6/30/2012 4:50:13 PM

Szena

Things seemed simpler when you were a child. That does not mean that they actually were simpler.

6/30/2012 5:13:35 PM

Sasha

Welcome to the future! One of the things we've invented is punctuation. Don't be afraid to try it.

6/30/2012 6:14:58 PM

xmx

Cranky old man alert. Better get off his lawn.

6/30/2012 6:18:57 PM

Fat Black Mammy

Yes, things were better back then when safe abortions were only available to rich white girls who had a family doctor who knew how to shut up about it.

Actually, I think that whole internet business and the information industry and explorer vehicles on Mars and cell phones and most everything we use every minute of every day came about AFTER abortion was legalized.

6/30/2012 6:33:00 PM

shykid

Paragraphs and punctuation. Use them.

6/30/2012 6:38:00 PM

D Laurier

"Before abortions were legal we had a pretty good world."
Abortions were illegal for a short period that coincided with an era of rampant injustice, racism, war, and corruption.

6/30/2012 6:38:48 PM

Raised by Horses

Then, suddenly, abortion was legalized. All inventors immediately commited suicide, and all great musicians and singers abruptly and irrevocably lost their talents and foreswore musicianship in favor of promulgating muzak. Kids went from saying things like "gosh" and "gee, willikers" to "fuck you, mom", and the Earth was riven by conflict.

I've said it before, and I'll surely say it again: "Leave It To Beaver" was not a documentary.

6/30/2012 7:22:39 PM

Prager

Abortion is as old as pregnancy.

6/30/2012 8:25:53 PM

Robespierre

Do you know what happened to the birth rate in 1973-74?
Nothing, despite hundreds of thousands of legal abortions. Apparently, those shocked people had back-alley abortions between church gatherings.
And surely the slowdown in economic growth after 1973 can't possibly have anything to do with oil shocks.

6/30/2012 8:43:07 PM

Philbert McAdamia

Before apples were illegal we had a prety good world. Yeah, Buddy - the zeros. Them were the days. It's been all downhill since then.

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We do still have the power of prayer and I guess I would rather have that than any other type of power.

As long as you aren't after any real power, I guess we're safe.

6/30/2012 9:26:23 PM

NonProphet

@His4Life:
That's the most reasonable post I've ever seen from you.
However... while you may agree with his so-called point on abortion, he's still completely WRONG about it, and completely ignorant of the fact that legal abortion has been around all over the world since at least the days of ancient China.

6/30/2012 11:45:05 PM

solomongrundy

We can't bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell 'em stories that don't go anywhere - like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Give me five bees for a quarter," you'd say.

Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...

7/1/2012 1:49:45 AM

fishtank

My grandfather, who fought on the wrong side in WW2, would like to tell you a few things about your precious little world which went down then and still go on.

You nostalgic twerp.

7/1/2012 3:48:35 AM

Canadiest

"I really am having a hard time living in this crazy world we have today."

What is something everyone over 60 says, Alex?

That's correct, we would have also accepted; What are fantasies of an America that never existed?

7/1/2012 6:52:26 AM

JB Mason

Glad someone already referenced Freakonomics.

But even if correlation isn't causation here, one simply cannot argue that violent crime has gotten worse since the time when those aborted babies would have been coming of age, and be intellectually honest.

Victimless "crimes" like pot-smoking, gambling, and prostitution only bother fundies, so I really don't care if those have gotten "worse".

7/1/2012 11:25:13 AM
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