Elijah Muhammad's national representative, Minister Malcolm X was an icon of the early 1960s. He spoke out against the silly philosophy of "turn the other cheek, love thy enemy", nonviolence.
Malcolm declared: "We declare our rights on this earth, to be a man; to be a human being; to be respected as a human being, to be given the rights of a human being, in this society, on this earth, in this day, which we intend to bring into existence BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!!"
Feminism did not exist during Malcolm's era.
Women did not even wear pants during his time.
When people lived on farms and did manual labor, there was no dispute about who chopped down trees to build the houses & boats; or who drew water from the well. It was obvious what a woman's place was then, and it should be obvious now.
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"Second-wave feminism is a feminist movement beginning in the early 1960s[131]". From the Wikipedia article on Feminism. Cited from: Whelehan, Imelda (1995). Modern feminist thought: from the second wave to "post-feminism". Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press.
That took me two minutes, give or take a few to copypaste into the comment box. RESEARCH IS NOT HARD!
Also, fuck you misogynist prick.
Welcome to the 21st century, where machines do the bulk of manual labor.
Also, what happened to the forums?
¿Women didn't wear pants? That's not what I recall, in any sense of the word. As for feminism, it got started in the U.S. in 1848, and as for all those chores you mentioned, they got divided up almost any way you can name.
How in the world did you link 'Malcolm X (A figure from the same time as the civil rights movement) to feminism? (Witch i'm pretty sure was around for some time before)
I believe that 'Malcolm X' also turned a new leaf as time went on as-well. Did someone sleep during history class?
Dear Mayor, please research the 19th Amendment to the US Constitution and when it was passed. Women's suffrage movement wasn't exactly feminism as we see it now, but it was a great start.
Oh, yeah, almost forgot: fuck you.
Women did not even wear pants during his time.
Remeber a past event known as WWII? There is plenty of photographic evidence from that time showing women did wear pants. And worked in factories, handled power tools, wore work shirts, and provided the support which allowed the US to win the war on both fronts.
So Mayor, your kindly invited to shut the hell up!
When people lived on farms and did manual labor, there was no dispute about who chopped down trees to build the houses & boats; or who drew water from the well. It was obvious what a woman's place was then, and it should be obvious now.
So the way things were in the past is the way things should be forever in the future? Uh, no. White supremacists would make the argument that things were so much better when blacks worked the land and had no rights, and that therefore that's how things should be today (actually, drop the "would," I'm sure I've seen that exact argument on RSTDT) . I'm sure Mayor would disagree, but why is the white supremacist's reasoning any less valid than yours?
Yes, women chopped down trees and fetched water. They didn't just stand in the kitchen, cooking. If you had a grandmother and didn't hatch from an egg, ask her.
So every single female on earth did not where one single pair of pants from may 19, 1925 to February 21 1965. not one, ever. EVER.
the stupidity just burns me
um, woman have been drawing water from wells, lakes, rivers, and ponds forever. Woman have chopped trees and firewood, built boats , cut off chicken heads and all that stuff forever.
Please go and learn some history.
also women wore pants in the 1960s.
"When people lived on farms and did manual labor, there was no dispute about who chopped down trees to build the houses & boats; or who drew water from the well. It was obvious what a woman's place was then, and it should be obvious now. "
And if she dared to venture out of line she was beaten back into it, hence why feminism took hold and grew, because women are human beings too and treating them like slaves is not what they want.
sorry fundie, I'd rather my wife love me because she does, not submit to me because I'll beat the hell out of her till she does
Women did not even wear pants during his time.
Ok, well, except for the First Lady, of course.
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@someperson
I think this doofus is saying that women are responsible for the whole "Make Love Not War/Nonviolence" mindset (which is ridiculous) & that real men solve problems with violence (which is also ridiculous).
@#1418229
I think this guy may actually be a "Black Power" type rather than a White Supremacist. Other than that, your comment is fine.
It was obvious what a woman's place was then, and it should be obvious now.
Yeah, because we all know a man's ability to chop down trees comes in handy when he's writing code or doing gene transfers.
You know what the vast majority of feminists want Mayor?
"to be a human being; to be respected as a human being, to be given the rights of a human being, in this society, on this earth, in this day"
Sound familiar? How can anyone repeat an impassioned claim to the rights and dignity due a human being, then immediately follow that with a statement denigrating and disempowering a full half of all human beings?
Hypocrisy just doesn't seem strong enough a word somehow; like when people got so stupid we had to invent "fucktarded" to describe them? So this is what, fuckpocrisy, shitpocrisy?
@SpukiKitty :
(wasn't signed in when I wrote 1418229)
I realized from the site name that he was a black power type of guy. My point was he's arguing that things were so much better when women were submissive and had no rights, and that that holds as much water as a white supremacist arguing that things were so much better when blacks were submissive and had no rights. Something tells me he would vehemently disagree with the latter point of view, but that he's incapable of seeing the hypocrisy of hating the latter outlook but wholeheartedly embracing the former.
So he's saying women are subhuman?
@Reynard:
In English the other interrogation mark is not used. Sólo en Español, camarada.
"When people lived on farms and did manual labor, there was no dispute about who chopped down trees to build the houses & boats; or who drew water from the well. It was obvious what a woman's place was then, and it should be obvious now."
I wish you people would grow up and get a clue.
Many families ended up nearly all female or male, women worked the fields and many men (boys, grandparents) worked the kitchens, hearth. Division of labour fell to chance, age and limited options. You never saw old west photos of women behind the plow or chopping wood?
Guess not, since you never noticed the women (especially on farms) wearing pants in the sixties. I really can't take anyone seriously that's never paid attention.
perhaps. but now submersible pumps draw water from the well and contractors build the house. and a corporate logging company harvests the lumber.
oh the times, they are-a changing
What the fuck do you know, nigger?
What? You didn't like that?
Oh, so it's okay for you to insult me and deny my rights for inherent traits, but not okay for me to do the same to you? That's called hypocrisy, little boy!
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