Believe it or not, there is an upside to 0bamacare. If the conservatives capture the presidency, and both houses of Congress, then we can force the liberals/socialists/democRATs to buy a Bible, a gun and membership in the NRA. Same principle as 0bamacare.
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"Believe it or not, there is an upside to 0bamacare"
I sure do believe it. It's great that the poor are going to be able to get medical care.
"If the conservatives capture the presidency, and both houses of Congress"
That's a bit of a segue, and a pretty big if.
"then we can force the liberals/socialists/democRATs to buy a Bible, a gun and membership in the NRA."
Oh, you were being facetious, and no, I'm pretty sure "we" can't do that.
"Same principle as 0bamacare."
What?
So you want to force gun owners to buy another gun, and bible owners to buy another bible?
And you think this is the good part about a badly thought out healthcare system that caters to private insurance companys...
You American have realy dropped the ball on this one.
Every country with paved streets in their secondary citys has public healthcare, paid for out of public revenues.
They (we) dont levy a special tax, We cover it out of pre-existing tax revenue.
Scrap any two of your aircraft carriers, and put the savings into healthcare.
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I'm pretty sure quite a few democrats own both guns and bibles.
I'm not an American and so do not own a gun, but even as an atheist I own 5 bibles. They can't even agree on the first sentence.
As a liberal, I already have all three.
A Bible, to throw your own beliefs back in your face when you fail to live up to them.
A couple of guns, mainly for target shooting and a little hunting, but one intended for home defense, which I hope I'll never have to use.
And a membership in the NRA.
No bullshit theocratic law needed.
Edit: Looking at this guy's name, I can't help but wonder if he's trying to refer to the Kehoe brothers. Those idiots who got into a gun fight with the cops at Point. Blank. Range. (/Ron White) and no one hit anything.
A so-called patriot taking the name of a pair of attempted cop killers and known criminals. Somehow I'm not surprised.
7.62x39...I have a bigger bullet, by caveman logic I win.
On the another note: Forcing people to buy a bible would violate the establishment clause, and forcing a membership into the NRA would violate the freedom of association...Oddly enough I don't know how you could constitutionally challenge forcing everyone to buy a gun.
"Believe it or not, there is an upside to 0bamacare. If the conservatives capture the presidency, and both houses of Congress, then we can force the liberals/socialists/democRATs to buy a Bible, a gun and membership in the NRA. Same principle as 0bamacare. "
First of all, that's a might big "if." Second of all, that isn't anything like what's being proposed.
force the liberals/socialists/democRATs to ... membership in the NRA.
Fine, great, bring it on. Soon enough the Democrats would have the majority in the NRA and at the next national meeting they'd elect Michael Moore as president.
That would be fun.
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Uh, no, it's nothing like that. Also, any requirement to buy a bible would be ruled unconstitutional.
Funny how they always support that, but they'd shit bricks at the suggestion of being required to buy a Koran.
Big deal, Key-hole....A Bible's just a book of scriptures & Jesus was cool (many Libs do own Bibles, pray, have a strong faith & got to church regularly). Guns know no affiliation (many Libs own guns) & membership to the NRA wouldn't faze me either way. Nice try, but.....
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First of all, that comparison is so off, it's laughable. Second, I'm glad you're being honest about your desire to turn this country into a totalitarian theocracy.
"Believe it or not, there is an upside to 0bamacare."
Yeah, it's that people with lower incomes will have health care...
I will hit you over the head with the bible, thus exercising my first amendment rights. Then I will shoot you with the gun, thus exercising my second amendment rights.
See, there is an upsied to teabagger n0nsense.
Well, you can force us to buy a gun. There's precedent for that (Second Militia Act of 1792) but you can't force us to buy a Bible (freedom of religion) or membership in the NRA (freedom of association). So you got one out of three.
Also, Democrats aren't socialists.
Why force someone to buy a Bible? It's easy to have one free, you folk are giving them away. I've got four, one of them the old/new Testaments unabridged. Another, a nice leather bound but cheap adaptation called the KJV.
I guess they'd love to actually sell more but when Atheists have several copies then who's buying them.
Intresting note for you guys (I hope): I was offered a beautiful white, textured cover Bible with (tasteful, finely detailed ) gold detail and gold page edges with a silk ribbon attached pagemarker, it was 12 by 8, roughly and 3 inches thick with illuminated, ornate chapter headings and first letter treatments. I asked them to give it to someone who would appreciate it more, she still thinks I gave up something precious, i couldn't care less.
I could have made a few bucks but while I'd use a compact school Bible to start a fire or even as a reason for said fire, I refuse to destroy a finely crafted book.
This person's logic is... not logical. Does he seriously want people who hate his guts to be carrying guns?
Interestingly, at one time there was a gun-carrying mandate, back in the post-revolution days. It would not be entirely unreasonable to require an NRA membership if such a mandate existed, although having all those liberals suddenly joining the rolls of the NRA would probably lead to a drastic change of the organization's political directions.
As for the Bible... I have four different translations and a Quran on my Kindle, as well as paper copies of the Bible (four or five different translations), another Quran, Science and Health, a Book of Mormon, and a book of selected Talmud readings. Do I get an exemption?
Why would I want another Bible? I already have three, and a Koran. My Communist dad has a very beautiful Bible with gilded pages, it's probably about a hundred years old.
I don't live in America and am not allowed to own a gun, unless I have a permit, a gun safe and knowledge about handling and shooting with the gun. As I have none of those things, I'll pass on the gun and NRA part too, thank you.
I do have tax-sponsored health care, though, and I have had it all my life. A visit to the doctors cost about 5 Bic Mac &Co's. We also have tax-sponsored roads, fire-department, and army. It's nice living in a "socialist" country...
WTF!? Does this freeper somehow believe that people can be infected with conservatism through gun-ownership? How can he not realize that the only thing his crazy scheme would achieve would be to guarantee that the next time he goes out of his way to antagonize liberals, they'll be armed liberals? Does he have an elaborate death-wish involving a variation on the old suicide-by-cop method? Is he that eager to be "martyred" by the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil liberals that he'd push weapons into their hands?
"If the conservatives capture the presidency"
'If. ' [/Spartan Laconic Wit]
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Oh no more, please Mr. Wilde, I am bereft of ribs!
@Agahnim
"If you get to say democRAT and 0bamacare, I get to say RePUBlican (because of wingnuts' drunken stupidity)"
For years now, I've been referring to them as 'RePUBICans'. It's not my fault if a load of educationally inferior, subhuman neocunt sister-marrying inbreds voted in two men whose surname is the slang term for female genital hair!
Actually, I'm far leftist atheist anarchist, and I own a bible so I can understand your beliefs better than you do, a gun because shooting at a range is a fun sport and hunting is more ethical than eating meat raised in the animal equivalent to Auschwitz, and am affiliated with the NRA because I support the second amendment, as well as all other clauses on the bill of rights. Nice try though. Oh, and rats are awesome, you should get some as pets.
Considering how much these guys hate liberals, and think they're a danger, want to kill us all, etc. I don't understand why they would want to force us to have guns? Surely that just makes us more dangerous?
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