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What is the best prediction of the outcome in the ObamaCare decision expected to be issued Thursday, June 27, 2012? 85% of experts predict that ObamaCare will be upheld - can so many experts be so wrong?

Yes, the experts are wrong, and here's why:

* ObamaCare does violate the limits in the Commerce Clause, and it is difficult to overcome that logic

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* 95% of those same experts deny that logic/conservatism advances over time for the same reason technology does

* ObamaCare could have been upheld more easily and quickly than to invalidate it

* virtually all of the "experts" missed the boat, and continue to miss the boat, on Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge. Wrong about that, why would anyone expect them to be right about anything else?

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia, Predicting ObamaCare Outcome 48 Comments [7/1/2012 6:47:41 AM]
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OhJohnNo

"I am right. You are wrong. Neener-neener!"

7/1/2012 6:54:32 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

Sooo... how did that work out for you, Andy?

7/1/2012 7:01:13 AM

Filin De Blanc

Well, so much for that.

7/1/2012 7:04:47 AM

Papabear

Believe Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge? Why would anyone expect you to be right about anything?

7/1/2012 7:09:50 AM

Brendan Rizzo

The Supreme Court upheld Obamacare. Schlafly is talking to himself now.

7/1/2012 7:18:00 AM

Darwin

Um, I really hate to break this to you Andy...

NO I DON'T! BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!

"95% of those same experts deny that logic/conservatism advances over time for the same reason technology does"

Conservatism, by definition, cannot 'advance'. It acts as a sensible brake on runaway liberalism, but increasingly it just gets in the way of genuine progress. We need conservatism, but not your variety Andy. Just go back to living in a cave, without any of modern life's amenities. You'll soon realise what new ideas (liberalism) have done for you. But will you learn from the experience? Probably not, because you're too blinded by your ideology.

7/1/2012 7:25:23 AM

John

ObamaCare does violate the limits in the Commerce Clause, and it is difficult to overcome that logic

One doesn't "violate" the Commerce Clause. The CC gives the Federal Government certain powers. Either a law is justified under the CC or it isn't. If it is, that's the end of the matter: it's Constitutional. But if the law isn't justified under the CC, that doesn't make it unconstitutional. It still might be justified under some other provision of the Constitution - in this case the Federal Government's power to tax. The administration made both arguments. SCOTUS rejected the first argument (the CC argument) but accepted the taxation power argument.

7/1/2012 7:36:02 AM

ohioobserver

I can no longer attribute such egregious error to simple stupidity. He's maliciously LYING for his own purposes.

7/1/2012 7:42:37 AM

Thinking Allowed

Hey Andy, just stick to batshit crazy instead of trying to predict the future.

7/1/2012 7:48:51 AM

Doubting Thomas

Guess you better check that Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge, Andy, because looks like all the experts were right.

7/1/2012 8:06:08 AM

Nagol

Not to be immature or anything, but IN YOUR FACE YOU LYING, DELUSIONAL IDIOT!

7/1/2012 8:19:30 AM

Nerikull

More proof that Andy is full of it? Well...not that we needed more proof...

7/1/2012 8:39:26 AM

Berny

Hey Andy,
You want some cream for that burn?

7/1/2012 8:44:09 AM

Amadan

And your Supreme Court voted 8 - 1 that it isn't a tax.

Imagine that!

7/1/2012 8:53:48 AM

He Who Doubts

Again it doesn't start getting bad until the end. Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge? The bible was written after the advent of the scientific method and doesn't contain a description of it anywhere. No character in the bible is ever shown to be using the method or operating from a volume of working scientific knowledge. Good going Andy, you dumbass.

7/1/2012 9:06:28 AM

SpukiKitty

"Biblical Scientific..."
"logic/conservatism..."



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7/1/2012 9:17:14 AM

John_in_Oz

Andy's next article will explain how the Supreme Court decision did in fact strike down Obamacare.

7/1/2012 9:17:49 AM

Tatsukun

Ah, another fine example of making shit up and desperately pretending an invisible mommy who lives in the sky says he's right. LOL Freak.

7/1/2012 9:18:37 AM

The Duelist

"Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge".

Absolutely Fucking Hilarious!

No, really! Just read it!

7/1/2012 10:25:02 AM

Lucilius

@John_in_Oz: Nah, I think Andy's currently working up a way to explain that he never actually said anything he said.

7/1/2012 10:52:40 AM

Night Jaguar

Andy, I hope you learn from this to be humble and not so dismissive of those with experien....

*burst into laughter*

Sorry, I couldn't even finish. He'll learn nothing from this, except maybe being more vague with "predictions".

7/1/2012 11:07:46 AM

Skatepunk

28th, not 27th, Andy. Learn some math.

Anyway, if you actually read Roberts' opinion, you would see that he established a limit on the commerce clause while at the same time protecting the mandate under the federal government's right to tax and spend.

7/1/2012 12:55:27 PM

Osiris

You know what the worst part is: if Obamacare passes these people will have no where to move to. The US is the last remaining 1st world country to not have universal healthcare.

7/1/2012 1:16:15 PM

Karana

*Experts were also wrong about kittens being able to wear gloves
*Those people also disagree about air tasting like tropical skittles, which it so obviously does
*We know that Lord of The Rings actually happened, and if they deny that, then Gandalf will find them and shine a bright light into their eyes until they agree that he is the best wizard ever

All of this makes about as much sense as what Andy just said....

7/1/2012 1:28:42 PM

J. James

Why don't we just strike down healthcare for just him. He hates science anyway.

7/1/2012 1:50:35 PM
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