To a certain person in this thread who shall remain clueless, up against the facts that are obvious to even Stevie Wonder, this is you:
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Fact: Chance brought about Evolution. There's our burden of proof lifted from we Atheists. Now for the $64 trillion question: who made God? Every sentient being has an origin; No Exceptions. Even the watchmaker had a mother & father.
That's the question religious fundies daren't answer, for fear of them admitting we Atheists are right, thus they having no choice but to become Atheists themselves.
Still not seeing that evidence for the existence of a 'God'. That for Evolution exists.
And as we're not the ones who put forward the claim that a 'God' exists, therefore the onus is on the fundies themselves, and to our satisfaction (Evolution - which came about by chance - has given us the proof. I'm satisfied by it's explanation, and I've touched it - or it's touched me whenever I've contracted the Common Cold or Flu); otherwise, the fundies themselves admit that their 'God' doesn't exist, therefore we Atheists are proved right - as we have been all along.
A rainbow doesn't actually physically exist, but at least it can be seen. And at least the process of such a phenomenon is easily replicatable (via a lightsource, box with a slit, and a prism, or a water-filled spray bottle with mist nozzle, and a sunny day).
...oh, and Biology =/= Cosmology. Further proof of your fundie 'faith'-based inferiority. After all, in the grand advancing the Human Condition scheme of things...:
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...what has religion ever done for us?! [/"Monty Python's Life of Brian"]
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"Don't feed the troll."
But trolls need to be banned though:
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...as exampled here, from EvC Forum for not being able to contribute constructively in discussions.
...now, unless a certain person in this thread who shall remain clueless can answer our questions/charges against his 'beliefs' to our satisfaction, then he should be similarly removed indefinitely; his 'beliefs' certainly have been removed from the mindsets of the vast majority of people, certainly here in the increasingly secular Europe.
But I guess that's what Facts based on Evidence will do; we can see those rainbows, even though they don't physically exist. Now, make your 'God' do the same, as per my previous challenge. Because you know what you yourself will be admitting to us when you can't...! [/hyper-smug & ultra-superior] >:D
...and for my final trick...:
"the same country which would have fallen long ago to the nazis or soviets if not for American support"
Oh, you just keep falling into your own argumental traps, don't you? And a double trap, no less:
1- The Battle of Britain. 'The Few' in their Spitfires & Hurricanes against Hitler's vastly superior Luftwaffe. The former rendered the latter inferior, thus making Hitler cack himself at the thought of invading my country.
The Battle of Britain: 1940.
No USA required. Oh, and when North American Aviation wanted an engine for their P-51 Mustang fighter, guess which planes' engine they chose? Yes, that's right: the British Rolls-Royce V-12 Merlin engine. In which Luftwaffe-beating planes was that engine used in, pray tell...?!
2- Via the mathematical/electro-mechanical genius of a quiet, unassuming, slightly eccentric Englishman - one Alan Turing - working at a place called Bletchley Park, tucked away in a quiet part of the English countryside, was Churchill - and ultimately by him sharing such with Roosevelt/Eisenhower - able to know more about the Wehrmacht's troop/ship/submarine movements, air attacks, logistics etc, than Hitler's high command did; 'Know your enemy and know yourself, and you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles' (Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"). The collated/cross-referenced & indexed info from the decryptions of the Nazis' Enigma-encoded transmissions shortened the War in Europe part of WWII by at least three years, and at least 600,000 US troops returned home. How many subsequent generations of Americans - even Jews - came to be as a result of all those 600,000 US personnel being alive to do so, thus ensuring the future of the USA - and all by the work of British cryptologists? 'Lease Lend'? DEBT PAID.
So... 'the same country which would have fallen long ago to the nazis or soviets if not for American support', eh? If not for this man- Alan Turing - your USA would've gone the same way, certainly millions of future Americans would never have been born; mayhaps you, jF:
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Turing is having the last laugh at you - and he's dead. It was also him who developed, especially after his work on Colossus - the first digital computer at Bletchley Park - what would ultimately become the home computer; if not for him, the DoD would never have had ARPANET, just as - without Wehrner von Braun - a Nazi rocket scientist - their ICBMs, and NASA's rockets.
Your call, jF. Frankly, the USA owes we in the UK more than it can possibly imagine.
